Lets talk about how mental illness creates a culture of victimhood that sidesteps the actual issue
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I don't like TS just as much as anybody else, but I think the fact that it's TS is making everybody defensive over what he's saying in the OP.
He's not saying that there's no such thing as mental illness.
He's saying that people who use the titles to get some pills and sympathy are living insults to those that DO have mental illnesses.
And he's right.
Being constantly sad because your job sucks and you have no girlfriend doesn't make you clinically depressed.
Letting television and video games raise your kids so they develop short attention spans and anre constantly bouncing around from sugar highs doesn't make them victims of ADHD.
meanwhile, REAL sufferers of mental illness look at it all like
like, man... do you know how clinically depressed people feel about kids that dress gothy cause it's cool, then the parents of those kids want to get them diagnosed with depression or whatever?
Hell, I remember having to go to therapy about 6 months after I got diagnosed with Borderline Personality Disorder cause of some... court related stuff.
I asked my therapist "
sooo.... do I have BPD because I've had a shytty life, or have I had a shytty life because I have BPD?"
Her: "
I.... I'm not... that's for you to figure out."
I never went back to therapy again.
He's not saying that there's no such thing as mental illness.
He's saying that people who use the titles to get some pills and sympathy are living insults to those that DO have mental illnesses.
And he's right.
Being constantly sad because your job sucks and you have no girlfriend doesn't make you clinically depressed.
Letting television and video games raise your kids so they develop short attention spans and anre constantly bouncing around from sugar highs doesn't make them victims of ADHD.
meanwhile, REAL sufferers of mental illness look at it all like
like, man... do you know how clinically depressed people feel about kids that dress gothy cause it's cool, then the parents of those kids want to get them diagnosed with depression or whatever?
Hell, I remember having to go to therapy about 6 months after I got diagnosed with Borderline Personality Disorder cause of some... court related stuff.
I asked my therapist "
sooo.... do I have BPD because I've had a shytty life, or have I had a shytty life because I have BPD?"Her: "
I.... I'm not... that's for you to figure out."I never went back to therapy again.
Illness though?
This sounds serious, but I'd like to see more of the etiology behind such a thing. It would be worth nothing where such a thing comes from or if it even exists. People might geninuely believe that. There are people who are seriously religious too. Where do they get thrown into this pile
I question what you call "health"
I'm not convinced "bilpolarism" exists. Go on though.
You'd be surprised how OCD therapy works then...
Well that sounds like someone who definitely has nothing wrong with them.
Like I said, cult of victimhood.
yes illness look up the definition..........
cleanface coney
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BelowTheMasonDixon
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Since I got banned from the other thread not taking the "mental illness" bit seriously because someone posted a video of someone having panic attacks (a bball player nervous about not making the NBA?) lets talk about how people use the term "illness" when in fact they're shytting on people with ACTUAL problems.
Mental illness is tough to already talk about.
But you know whats harder to talk about?
People who abuse the title.
You're depressed? You sure you need pills for that? Why can't therapy and a life change help you?
Your kid has ADHD? Why don't we talk about how you're raising your kid? I've seen tons of docs who have kids come in and the family always looks like they're poor, the kids are doing bad in school, the parents (if they're lucky enough to have two kids) look like they just want to "fix" things by takign a pill, and the kid is just sitting there swallowing this shyt because you're too poor of a parent to give a damn and do more to help your child overcome whatever he/she claims to be facing.
There are people with actual disorders. Actual deficits. Actual diseases.
...but you want to come in here and talk about your depression? When in fact you're mad life didn't turn out the way you wanted it to?
Go sit down.
The brain is complex...but we're still learning a lot about it...yet that doesn't give you the right to think that just because you have a hard time fitting into society that something is wrong with you or that you have some sort of arbitrarily defined illness.
Up until the last 200 years, a lot of what we call humanity was relatively unchanged. Now we're dealing with a society unseen before to a degree we'd never have imagined and we're struggling to find our place and to bring our own value to our plots of land...that does not grant us with the right to sit here and front like your social incongruency means you have an ACTUAL problem.
So your telling me my panic attacks were a figment of my imagination?
Napoleon, I know you mean well, and you just wanna get some discussion going, and I agree with you on a lot of things, but as someone whos been struggling with bipolar since I was 14, you have no idea what the fukk you're talking about.
Just because you've watched a youtube video, and spent some times on some mental health websites (and apparently have a degree in every damn subject across the board lol) doesn't mean you understand mental health.
It's pretty obvious you're making assumptions and judgments from the sidelines.
Just because you've watched a youtube video, and spent some times on some mental health websites (and apparently have a degree in every damn subject across the board lol) doesn't mean you understand mental health.
It's pretty obvious you're making assumptions and judgments from the sidelines.
I validate your experiences as being unique and present. I think they happened... but I don't think they're as rooted in an "illness" as much as people make them out to be.
I think it has more to do with coping (and we can talk about people with wild limbic excitability) strategies than there being something WRONG with you.
Do you see what I'm getting at?
What is the root of bipolarism in your own words and what is the root in the "literature?"
I'm curious because I seriously question a lot of what people have been sold as an attempt to address what may ultimately come down to socialization, and not a biological source.
Magneto=Greatness
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Mental illness brats stay using excuses to be bratty brats. 
Not taking meds isn't an excuse for slapping your own mom in a moving car near a duncan donuts. Gimmick hair hat brats.
Not taking meds isn't an excuse for slapping your own mom in a moving car near a duncan donuts. Gimmick hair hat brats. 
SwagKingKong
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coming from someone who has struggled with mental illness the last year, it's very real.
Dude, one of the first things I was taught was coping mechanisms, just because there are things that can HELP, doesn't mean thats going to eradicate and dismiss whatever it is you're having trouble with. Coping mechanisms are just things to help making it a little easier, it doesn't mean it isn't a biological issue.
Honestly, you're not a mental health professional, or a religious expert, you're just someone who spends too much time on reddit reading opinions from cheeto finger stained fedora wearing acne faced virgins who have read too much, and lived too little so get the fukk off your high horse with your bullshyt threads that you make to try and flex that you're much smarter than everyone, you self righteous a$$hole.