Lets talk about how mental illness creates a culture of victimhood that sidesteps the actual issue

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

The fact that you put "depressed" in quotations most likely means that you didn't take it seriously or didn't put much stock in it then, as you don't now.

Not necessarily. I'm saying that I validate people's EXPERIENCES...but I don't think they're disorders.

i don't understand why emotions have to be blunted. The highs are so great BECAUSE of the lows. People are out here trying to remove every little thing that makes the human experience human, and blaming it on them being "broken"

Yes. Sometimes you NEED to feel like shyt to put things in perspective. We can go more into this.

It's less of an extreme and more of an everyday reality for more than a few people. Varying degrees and overuse of the word are out there yes but it still causes severe anxiety to the point that seems weird to most people.

This seems like an excuse.

They can be social outcasts but a lot of them actually would rather not be and just live their lives as they see other people do. There are people whose life it takes a real toll on. They can't finish school, avoid the doctor and try their best to not come in contact with humans.

I don't see how this is a disorder.

And explain your responses to my posts about ADHD better, please.

Succintly:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_construct_theory_of_ADHD

 

[Danny Up]

Do you not understand your body releases it's own chemicals due to certain life situations? Do you not know peoples whole mindset changes after traumatic events?

If a man who was priviledge his whole life falls to dead broke, That's trauma. He's not going to function the way he once did right away and maybe not ever.

But again you don't care, you just want to validate yourself.

 

[devizelle]

Nice evasion tactic.

Psychiatrists get their rocks off by pretending to know more than they do and by trying to streamline the human experience.

I respect neurologists more than most psychiatrists. Hell, even psychologists get a better rap because at least they focus on therapy and understanding.

Wait what? Psychiatrists go to MEDICAL SCHOOL. I mean I'm biased because I want to be one but I feel like psychiatrists have a better understanding of how the mind functions in conjunction with the body than any other profession. Psychiatrists know a lot more than you or I about mental illness, I can tell you that lol

Do you not understand your body releases it's own chemicals due to certain life situations? Do you not know peoples whole mindset changes after traumatic events?

If a man who was priviledge his whole life falls to dead broke, That's trauma. He's not going to function the way he once did right away and maybe not ever.

But again you don't care, you just want to validate yourself.

I understand why this is hard for people to get, but I think it's all relative. And every situation doesn't affect everyone in the same way. One rich man might go broke and be fine, but the next may become suicidal. Really, until you experience something like depression, I don't really feel like you can talk about how it doesn't exist. It's one thing to look in from the outside and say "well, you just need to pull yourself up and get out of bed, what's wrong with you?" But it entirely another for that to be YOUR reality.

Either way, dismissing people's problems doesn't help anyone. You may feel like peoples' illnesses aren't legitimate, but the least you could do is try to have some compassion for them, or some understanding. Try to put yourself in their shoes.

Btw, I DO think this country is over-medicated and many things (not just mental illness) are over-diagnosed. But that doesn't change the fact that there are people out there with mental issues that deserve to be taken seriously.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Wait what? Psychiatrists go to MEDICAL SCHOOL. I mean I'm biased because I want to be one but I feel like psychiatrists have a better understanding of how the mind functions in conjunction with the body than any other profession. Psychiatrists know a lot more than you or I about mental illness, I can tell you that lol
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I'm going to keep it 100% funky with you.

They don't know AS MUCH as you think they do.

A lot of what we call mental illness is derived from a manual that just got revised in its 5th edition this year called the DSM. Its a book full of so much subjectivity that when you read it, you wonder how people manage to succumb to such ludicrous demands for consistency and internal honesty.

They could call your inability to stop thinking about your Ex a mental illness and you'd never know the difference.

(Since you want to be one, I suggest you read up on criticisms of the field and check out several blogs I suggest.

blogs.discovermagazine.com/neuroskeptic/

TheLastPsychiatrist.com (an actual psych)

http://1boringoldman.com (actual psych)

or read about RD Laing, Thomas Szasz, Michael Foucalt, or David Cooper.


I think more skepticism towards what psychiatrists CAN and CAN NOT do would greatly help a lot of this arbitrary desire to place a label of disease on the variety of the human experience.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Do you not understand your body releases it's own chemicals due to certain life situations? Do you not know peoples whole mindset changes after traumatic events?

If a man who was priviledge his whole life falls to dead broke, That's trauma. He's not going to function the way he once did right away and maybe not ever.

But again you don't care, you just want to validate yourself.

Where is the illness?

 

[Guess Who]

So mental illness isn't real illness because it can be precipitated by environmental events?

So is heart disease not real since I can get it from eating too many steaks and big macs???

 

[HoloGraphic]

I'm theorizing depression has something to do with the brains neuroplasticity. Your so used to being sad, depressed and hopeless that it actually rewires your brain. Without the rigorous activity in the opposite direction to actually fix ones life and to retrain the brain to think positively the person or the illness will look for "ways out". It is a sickness. It is not normal or healthy for humans to be depressed. I believe depression is the minds way of not being able to cope with the outside environment, it thinks death is a better alternative. Our society is not always synonymous with "normal" or "healthy" human behavior. Alot of these mental illnesses are a result of our society and our minds inability to cope or synergize with it. We're in a mental prison. Depression is linked to our Thanatos, our death drive.

 

[Guess Who]

Furthermore, go tell someone with a psychotic illness that they're not mentally ill and all they gotta do is stop believing that they can talk to Obama through the TV...assuming they're healthy enough to even comprehend you. Tell someone with bipolar disorder, who understands their illness so well that they know when they're going to cycle, that they don't have a mental illness. Go tell someone with OCD, an anxiety disorder, that all they gotta do is stop thinking about the thoughts that are bothering them.

Go try to cheer up a depressed kid with two loving parents, want for nothing financially, a supportive gf/bf, good grades, and good friends. Do it.

Then come back here and tell me how successful you are.

 

[Ego Noir]

All this is caused by the theory that our thoughts/emotions are an effect of the chemical processes of the brain.

Know what you advocate suggests

 

[Brofato]

Furthermore, go tell someone with a psychotic illness that they're not mentally ill and all they gotta do is stop believing that they can talk to Obama through the TV...assuming they're healthy enough to even comprehend you. Tell someone with bipolar disorder, who understands their illness so well that they know when they're going to cycle, that they don't have a mental illness. Go tell someone with OCD, an anxiety disorder, that all they gotta do is stop thinking about the thoughts that are bothering them.

Go try to cheer up a depressed kid with two loving parents, want for nothing financially, a supportive gf/bf, good grades, and good friends. Do it.

Then come back here and tell me how successful you are.

And he can tell them this by quoting the blogs that influenced this thread

Napoleon, breh, psychiatry and the treatment of mental illness is an ever-growing and expanding field. There are some people who will detract or oppose certain theories. It helps everything move along. It does not in any way invalidate what real people suffer with.

 

[Guess Who]

And he can tell them this by quoting the blogs that influenced this thread

Napoleon, breh, psychiatry and the treatment of mental illness is an ever-growing and expanding field. There are some people who will detract or oppose certain theories. It helps everything move along. It does not in any way invalidate what real people suffer with.

Basically.

 

[Arishok]

I thought TRUE depression was a chemical imbalance of the brain not a strong feeling of sadness?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

So mental illness isn't real illness because it can be precipitated by environmental events?

So is heart disease not real since I can get it from eating too many steaks and big macs???

heart disease has an actual physical etiology...

 

[Grew_Up_Hella_Early]

You makin some good points man but some folks won't listen.....personally I'm conflicted.

I have a cousin that I heard was a bad kid growing up and got into fights and had a bad attitude,but that sounds like how I've been described as a kid....difference is my auntee had money and took my cuz to a doctor and he has been taking pills for probaly 30 yrs...and he does have flare ups when he doesn't take his pills,but who's to say he's not just a bad kid who never learned how to not be a bad kid bcuz he been takin happy pills this whole time...my cousin is now permantly trapped with a childs mind overall.

Also got a family member with a overactive thyroid I think its called?she was told she could take pills to keep her emotions in check or just try to not eat breads and certain kinda foods for good results bcuz the wrong foods would throw her emotions outta wack....she chose to reject the pills and has said she's been fine...she was having anxiety attacks,black outs,rages,and depressions.


But is that just saying its something in the foods that's causing the increase in these numbers of people suffering mentally?or is it the prescription happy phsycologist?

Tough call for me,cuz I blame the state of my older cousin on the pills he was given back then....but who's to say if he really did need it or if it was even food dating back then too?

But I think its safe to say crazy is real,and as many times as I've been on public transportation back in the day and seen people yellin shyt out,I can't be told its all that rare

but "shyness",I will say it doesn't matter if back in the day people didn't look at shy people as weird or crazy....its how shy people would've felt about theyself,and I'm sure many were feeling left out and miserable regardless of if that author u posted wanted to use an example where his mother was perfectly happy bein shy or not....not everybody is.

BUT I do think its just about fact that shyness can happen when something tramatic happens,or if your not sure of yourself as a persn and are insecure...people who are introverted often admit this but are cool with it and don't feel unhappy...others are unhappy about it....shyness is a defense mechanism,not talking to people,locking yourself away in the house and avoiding interactions is something you do when possible to avoid being tramatized again....and u probaly don't even realize it conciously.

But is that an illness?or sumthing u can overcome if you are aware that your acting shy as a defense mechanism,and then fight through it?and force yourself to talk to people and go out in uncomfortable situations over an extended period of time?...I think doctors and people need to be real careful when prescribing or taking medication for that kinda illness....I think alotta people just need to man up....and that sounds inconsiderate bcuz they think "I can't do it I've tried but i panic"...well did u keep trying until MAYBE you stopped panickin....if u run 3 blocks and never cross the threshhold u won't be able to run 4 blocks

 

[NotaPAWG]

I thought TRUE depression was a chemical imbalance of the brain not a strong feeling of sadness?

It is.