Let's stop using NBA Finals record to determine who is the GOAT.

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For the 1s that do give him credit there are probably 100x's more that discredit him for getting there and losing. Thats why 4-6 is such a big talking point for so many people. And that in itself is wild. They dont discredit MJ for only making it 6 times. And also what you accomplished with no help is just as important if not more important than what you accomplished when you were on teams that were head and shoulders above the rest of the league and had the GOAT coach to top it off. And it doesnt matter how you look doing something. lmao @ "its aesthetically pleasing" thats the most bullshyt talking point they use for MJ. 2 points is 2 points it dont matter if you bulldozed your way to the paint and laid it up or if you did a post up fade away middy its still 2 fukking points.


Its crazy that people will give mj credit for liking the way this muhfukka sticks his tongue out and dunks but discredit Bron because his prime lasted longer than most muhfukkas entire nba careers. Again Bron shyt the bed in 2011 hold it against him but also give him credit for getting to the finals basically 5 v 1 and give him his credit for what he did in 2016 the latter far outweighs the former. How many finals did Bron lose because of injury to the 2nd or 3rd best players on his team? Are injuries Brons fault? Was it Mj that kept the bulls healthy for damn near all of those 6 titles hell the fukk no they got incredibly lucky. How many of those titles does mike lose if Pippen is out for the finals? If you got Jordan as the GOAT ok fine but it definitely isnt as cut and dry as alot of yall make it out to be. And at the end of the day its opinion and preference on what you like.
6 chips in 13 full seasons, what are you smoking :wtf:
 

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6 chips in 13 full seasons, what are you smoking :wtf:
There you go subtracting seasons because of injuries. They dont subtract The seasons lebron was injured in LA they dont subtract the seasons Lebrons costars (people who were essential to his team winning) were injured. They dont subtract the finals losses that Bron took because of injuries. But the 1st thing you type is 13 full seasons. Proving exactly what im saying anything to discredit Bron and anything to credit Jordan. If you are the GOAT why did you only make it to the finals 6 times? Why did you never make it with basically no help? Why did you only make finals appearances when you had The leagues best team and the GOAT coach.
 

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There you go subtracting seasons because of injuries. They dont subtract The seasons lebron was injured in LA they dont subtract the seasons Lebrons costars (people who were essential to his team winning) were injured. They dont subtract the finals losses that Bron took because of injuries. But the 1st thing you type is 13 full seasons. Proving exactly what im saying anything to discredit Bron and anything to credit Jordan. If you are the GOAT why did you only make it to the finals 6 times? Why did you never make it with basically no help? Why did you only make finals appearances when you had The leagues best team and the GOAT coach.
You make no sense fella. So Lebron made it to the finals 10 time with different super teams and still only managed to win 4(bubble included). How does that make him the goat over MJ’s perfect 6-0 in the finals?

MJ won every title he’s played in since college. NCAA, FIBA, 2x Olympics, 6-0 NBA chips. Give it up
 

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There you go subtracting seasons because of injuries. They dont subtract The seasons lebron was injured in LA they dont subtract the seasons Lebrons costars (people who were essential to his team winning) were injured. They dont subtract the finals losses that Bron took because of injuries. But the 1st thing you type is 13 full seasons. Proving exactly what im saying anything to discredit Bron and anything to credit Jordan. If you are the GOAT why did you only make it to the finals 6 times? Why did you never make it with basically no help? Why did you only make finals appearances when you had The leagues best team and the GOAT coach.
You don’t get points for stacking the deck making the finals and losing :laff:
 

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For the 1s that do give him credit there are probably 100x's more that discredit him for getting there and losing. Thats why 4-6 is such a big talking point for so many people. And that in itself is wild. They dont discredit MJ for only making it 6 times. And also what you accomplished with no help is just as important if not more important than what you accomplished when you were on teams that were head and shoulders above the rest of the league and had the GOAT coach to top it off. And it doesnt matter how you look doing something. lmao @ "its aesthetically pleasing" thats the most bullshyt talking point they use for MJ. 2 points is 2 points it dont matter if you bulldozed your way to the paint and laid it up or if you did a post up fade away middy its still 2 fukking points.


Its crazy that people will give mj credit for liking the way this muhfukka sticks his tongue out and dunks but discredit Bron because his prime lasted longer than most muhfukkas entire nba careers. Again Bron shyt the bed in 2011 hold it against him but also give him credit for getting to the finals basically 5 v 1 and give him his credit for what he did in 2016 the latter far outweighs the former. How many finals did Bron lose because of injury to the 2nd or 3rd best players on his team? Are injuries Brons fault? Was it Mj that kept the bulls healthy for damn near all of those 6 titles hell the fukk no they got incredibly lucky. How many of those titles does mike lose if Pippen is out for the finals? If you got Jordan as the GOAT ok fine but it definitely isnt as cut and dry as alot of yall make it out to be. And at the end of the day its opinion and preference on what you like.


The problem is if you give Lebron credit,instead of taking the inch,his fans take a mile. We humbly gave credit for what he did with those Cavs teams. But then Lebron stans tried to make it seem like going to finals was better than winning more finals:wow:.


So if by discredit,you mean being forced to provide proper context? Yes we were forced to do that,which probably does seem like discrediting him.


Same thing with beating the Warriors juggernaut. Lebron and his stans tried to catapult him to goat based on that. We were forced to provide context that Steph choked,and Draymond helped.


Theres no reason to fear context being provided,unless fake narratives are all you really have. Lebrons legacy is longevity,and being dominant in the EAST. But overall a dominant player in the nba. Far as being a goat I simply cant see it. I just see constant new narratives being created for WHY hes the goat now#Klutch. The most recent being these Olympics:mjlol:


Did Jordan need this many narratives every year to convince people? I dont recall:respect:.


If Lebron is the goat he will be the goat. Personally i predict his stock falls without the constant media push,news cycle once he retires. Or retirement may be kind to him,we will see.
 

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Le-xplanation on why ya mans is 4*-6 in the finals. Y’all should be aiming for top 5 all time instead of trying to reach the goat level.
34 minutes ago.
6 chips in 13 full seasons, what are you smoking :wtf:
Thats how long it took you call out someone making excuses then you turn around and excuse mike 2 seasons for being injured. :russ:
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Cant make this shyt up.

You make no sense fella. So Lebron made it to the finals 10 time with different super teams and still only managed to win 4(bubble included). How does that make him the goat over MJ’s perfect 6-0 in the finals?

MJ won every title he’s played in since college. NCAA, FIBA, 2x Olympics, 6-0 NBA chips. Give it up
Superteams were already formed and winning chips while Bron was in the league. He just lost to a superteam before he created 1. Yall dont hate superteams yall hate that Bron took contol of his own career and formed his own. The bubble that your referring to is that the 1 where the Lakers were the only team that had homecourt advantage and lost it because of the bubble? The bubble where everyone inside of it had to deal with the same circumstances but only the Lakers won it?
 

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The problem is if you give Lebron credit,instead of taking the inch,his fans take a mile. We humbly gave credit for what he did with those Cavs teams. But then Lebron stans tried to make it seem like going to finals was better than winning more finals:wow:.


So if by discredit,you mean being forced to provide proper context? Yes we were forced to do that,which probably does seem like discrediting him.


Same thing with beating the Warriors juggernaut. Lebron and his stans tried to catapult him to goat based on that. We were forced to provide context that Steph choked,and Draymond helped.


Theres no reason to fear context being provided,unless fake narratives are all you really have. Lebrons legacy is longevity,and being dominant in the EAST. But overall a dominant player in the nba. Far as being a goat I simply cant see it. I just see constant new narratives being created for WHY hes the goat now#Klutch. The most recent being these Olympics:mjlol:


Did Jordan need this many narratives every year to convince people? I dont recall:respect:.


If Lebron is the goat he will be the goat. Personally i predict his stock falls without the constant media push,news cycle once he retires. Or retirement may be kind to him,we will see.
While you were typing out your response the same thing i was talking about was happening anything to discredit Bron and anything to credit Jordan.

Le-xplanation on why ya mans is 4*-6 in the finals. Y’all should be aiming for top 5 all time instead of trying to reach the goat level.
34 minutes ago.
6 chips in 13 full seasons, what are you smoking :wtf:
Thats how long it took you call out someone making excuses then you turn around and excuse mike 2 seasons for being injured. :russ:
:russ: :russ:
Cant make this shyt up.
You make no sense fella. So Lebron made it to the finals 10 time with different super teams and still only managed to win 4(bubble included). How does that make him the goat over MJ’s perfect 6-0 in the finals?

MJ won every title he’s played in since college. NCAA, FIBA, 2x Olympics, 6-0 NBA chips. Give it up
Superteams were already formed and winning chips while Bron was in the league. He just lost to a superteam before he created 1. Yall dont hate superteams yall hate that Bron took contol of his own career and formed his own. The bubble that your referring to is that the 1 where the Lakers were the only team that had homecourt advantage and lost it because of the bubble? The bubble where everyone inside of it had to deal with the same circumstances but only the Lakers won it?

You cant say something isnt one way when its happening in real time in front of our faces lmaoooo
 

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MAKING THE FINALS AND LOSING THERE SHOWS U NOT AT YOUR PEAK ON THE BIGGEST STAGE

IT SHOWS THAT U HAVE A GOOD ENOUGH TEAM TO MAKE IT TO THE TOP, BUT YOUR INDIVIDUAL INFLUENCE ISNT STRONG ENOUGH TO GET THE JOB DONE WHEN IT COUNTS

THAT WAS PART OF THE ISSUE WITH LEBRON.. THE WHOLE “CHOKING” MONIKER.. “FREEZES IN THE CLUTCH” STIGMA THAT FOLLOWED HIM THROUGHOUT HIS CAREER.. HE DOESNT GET POINTS FOR THAT LOL
 

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MAKING THE FINALS AND LOSING THERE SHOWS U NOT AT YOUR PEAK ON THE BIGGEST STAGE

THAT WAS PART OF THE ISSUE WITH LEBRON.. THE WHOLE “CHOKING” MONIKER.. FREEZES IN THE CLUTCH STIGMA THAT FOLLOWED HIM THROUGHOUT HIS CAREER.. HE DOESNT GET POINTS FOR THAT LOL
Making it to the finals with practically no team is somehow turned into a knock against you as a player? The coli brehs lmaoooo @Still Benefited another 1 in real time :russ:
 

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This y’all GOAT??


No wonder so many of y’all support him:sas2:

That kid is y’all :mjpls::mjpls::mjpls:

Making little CACs walk barefoot is light work for the goat. Looking like a Black Daenerys Targaryen when she set the slaves free.

Not the flex you think this is.
 
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