Lets not forget that Kobe Bryant won 2 championships with a sidekick worse than Kevin Love

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Pau Gasol in the first full 3 years with LA:

.600 TS
39.6 Win Shares
15.4 Value Over Replacement

Kevin Love in his first 3 years with Cleveland:

.562 TS
23.6 Win Shares
6.5 Value Over Replacement

Gasol also beats Love in WS/48 (.225 to .165 for Love in case you wanted to bytch about games Love missed)

Fakkit.

This is what KD was talking about when it came to blog boys.

I don't know if I'm on a sports board or a mathematics forum.

Imagine being in the barbershop and hearing "value over replacement"

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LeBron has zero excuses to not a ring this year if we're to believe that he's better than Kobe as his stans always say. Kobe took a worse player statistically than Kevin Love to 3 straight finals and won back to back rings. If Kobe can win 2 rings with just Pau Gasol, LeBron has no excuse for not winning with just Kevin Love.

Kobe lost with Gasol as his team you dumbass:gucci:

Losing to the Celtics and Mavs is ok but a team with 4 guys on the all NBA team is inexcusable?
 

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Not loves fault bron makes teammates worse while kobe lifts his opponents up.

Thank you for proving part 2 of my argument. Kobe makes players around him BETTER. While LeBron makes them WORSE.

The analytics said that BEFORE Gasol joined Kobe he was worse than Love. Playing with Kobe made him. While playing with LeBron made Kevin Love worse.

Sure, playing with Kobe Bryant instead of Mike Miller helps Gasol.
But playing for Phil Jackson instead of Marc Iavaroni also helps Gasol.

Dumb ass.
 

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This is what KD was talking about when it came to blog boys.

I don't know if I'm on a sports board or a mathematics forum.

Imagine being in the barbershop and hearing "value over replacement"

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Because the barbershop is clearly where you hear the most intellectually sound conversations.
"The coli hates math"

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Lets not forget Joey Crawford and Stan Van Gundy's contributions to those 2 championships.

More deflections. Why don't you Bron stans actually argue against the content of my posts rather than trying to change the subject?

Maybe its because you know there is nothing to argue. That this thread exposes the contradictions in your arguments. On the one hand, ya'll wanna use stats and numbers to say LeBron is better than Kobe. But on the other hand, you'll ignore the fact that the stats and numbers say that LeBron has had better teammates than Kobe before they joined his team. And its LeBron that has led to a decline in their games because his style of play is about him getting his numbers to the detriment of his co-stars.

You can't have it both ways. You can't use stats to say LeBron is better than Kobe then turnaround and ignore the fact that the same numbers say LeBron's 3rd option since 2015 was a better player statistically than the 2nd option Kobe took to 3 straight finals and won back to back rings with.
 

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Because the barbershop is clearly where you hear the most intellectually sound conversations.
"The coli hates math"

:coffee:

spewing some shyt that you read on basketball reference doesn't make you sound smart. If someone approached you and asked you how a defensive rating is calculated, you would be able to say: Marginal defense is equal to (player minutes played / team minutes played) * (team defensive possessions) * (1.08 * (league points per possession) - ((Defensive Rating) / 100)) off the top of your dome?

If you can't explain what you're saying then you're just a puppet who is controlled by these geeks who watch basketball with a ti-84 calculator.
 
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This is what KD was talking about when it came to blog boys.

I don't know if I'm on a sports board or a mathematics forum.

Imagine being in the barbershop and hearing "value over replacement"

:dead:

More than that, he's only proving my point. You see how he tried to be slick. He posted their stats AFTER they joined Kobe and LeBron. That does not change the fact that BEFORE Gasol and Love joined Kobe and LeBron, the advanced stats he loves showed that Love was the better player.

All he did by posting those numbers was prove that Kobe makes players around him better while LeBron makes them worse. The fact Gasol became a better player statistically alongside Kobe while Love became much worse alongside LeBron proves our point that Kobe is the better player.

Kobe made Gasol into a Hall of Famer. LeBron has made Love into a scrub.
 

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More than that, he's only proving my point. You see how he tried to be slick. He posted their stats AFTER they joined Kobe and LeBron. That does not change the fact that BEFORE Gasol and Love joined Kobe and LeBron, the advanced stats he loves showed that Love was the better player.

All he did by posting those numbers was prove that Kobe makes players around him better while LeBron makes them worse. The fact Gasol became a better player statistically alongside Kobe while Love became much worse alongside LeBron proves our point that Kobe is the better player.

Kobe made Gasol into a Hall of Famer. LeBron has made Love into a scrub.

Facts.

Lebron is the only player in the history of the league that can have 10 different rosters and still not have enough help. It's funny how the narrative always goes from "Lebron got SOLDIERS now!!" to "Lebron's teammates are trash" then the deadline happens and it's back to "Lebron got guys that fit his style now!!!!" to "Lebron's teammates are trash" in the playoffs.
 

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spewing some shyt that you read on basketball reference doesn't make you sound smart. If someone approached you and asked you how a defensive rating is calculated, you would be able to say: Marginal defense is equal to (player minutes played / team minutes played) * (team defensive possessions) * (1.08 * (league points per possession) - ((Defensive Rating) / 100)) off the top of your dome?

If you can't explain what you're saying then you're just a puppet who is controlled by these geeks who watch basketball with a ti-84 calculator.
When you can’t refute the numbers you either attack the person or change the narrative.

You’re doing both.

:coffee:
 
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