Let's keep it real: Patrick Ewing was a better college Basketball player than Michael Jordan

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I agree to a degree. Ewing BBIQ that series was fukking amazing on defense. He made it hard af on Hakeem that series. He did miles better v. Hakeem than D. Rob and Shaq did in the next postseason. Ewing offense always lets him down when it matters most. While Malone was more disappointing in the playoffs on offense than Ewing, Ewing clearly wasn't a #1 option. That's why Starks had to fake it till he made it. The NBA lacked so much offense in that fukking era on average, it killed the league to me. Just imagine if NY replaced Anthony Mason with Chris Mullin. I know Mason had that present, hell, he wanted to beat my ass in Atlanta but Mullin would have been fit for that squad.

Think about it

Anthony
Starks
Mullin
Oak
Ewing

That would win titles. Multiple under Riley.
Honestly the ‘95 Rockets team was better than the ‘94 team, in regards to talent. It’s why when they finally clicked against Phoenix, it became a tsunami. The Knicks were an excellent defensive team and they only had to stop one guy. Contrast that with Drexler being there in ‘95, and they becoming a three-point bombing team (for nba ‘95 levels)

The NBA was the land of awful basketball and fake #1 options from ‘93 to 2000.

The Knicks didn’t need much either. I think if you replace Starks with Steve Smith or Glenn Rice over Bonner/Mason, they probably beat Houston.
 

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That's pretty much what happened to him in the NBA. He was a great run/jump athletic with great size and defensive instincts. But when it was time to show skill, Ewing looked lost in the wind. He used to post up for 8 hours too if he couldn't get that jumper to fall. His gathers were slow, his feel for the game on the offensive end lagged heavily compared guys like Barkley and Robinson. He wasn't uncoordinated whatsoever but he just wasn't naturally fluid either. The Knicks didn't do him justice kinda like how they did Melo but his flaws were always on full display.
Patrick Ewing’s slow ass gathers made him a poster boy for being postered. He also had small hands, which is why he was so turnover prone. With that said, he still was an all time great. I just hated when he got jump shot happy and that front office did him dirty.
 

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Honestly the ‘95 Rockets team was better than the ‘94 team, in regards to talent. It’s why when they finally clicked against Phoenix, it became a tsunami. The Knicks were an excellent defensive team and they only had to stop one guy. Contrast that with Drexler being there in ‘95, and they becoming a three-point bombing team (for nba ‘95 levels)

The NBA was the land of awful basketball and fake #1 options from ‘93 to 2000
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The Knicks didn’t need much either. I think if you replace Starks with Steve Smith or Glenn Rice over Bonner/Mason, they probably beat Houston.

Straight garbage...
 

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People don't understand, the reason why MJ was so good in the NBA was because of Dean Smith. shyt, it's the reason Vince Carter is still playing at 43.

I ain’t giving no dead cac that much honor and praise :scust:

MJ and Vince were that good in the League because they worked their azz off to be great pros.
 

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I ain’t giving no dead cac that much honor and praise :scust:

MJ and Vince were that good in the League because they worked their azz off to be great pros.
Truthfully, they had insane God-given talent but Dean four corners worked magic for them. Don't underrate the value of great coaching. shyt, LeBron improved so much from year 1 in Miami to year 2 it was insane. I've never seen someone improve so much in an offseason in my life other than scrubs and guys who raw as fukk like Giannis early on.
 

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Honestly the ‘95 Rockets team was better than the ‘94 team, in regards to talent. It’s why when they finally clicked against Phoenix, it became a tsunami. The Knicks were an excellent defensive team and they only had to stop one guy. Contrast that with Drexler being there in ‘95, and they becoming a three-point bombing team (for nba ‘95 levels)

The NBA was the land of awful basketball and fake #1 options from ‘93 to 2000.

The Knicks didn’t need much either. I think if you replace Starks with Steve Smith or Glenn Rice over Bonner/Mason, they probably beat Houston.
The fukking worst. Watching a lot of the playback, I don't know what these old nikkas be talking about with that, it was a tougher game. It was uglier and far less skilled for sure. Tougher, not everyone was Riley coached teams. A lot of cupcakes in the league of the expansion era. One season, I think Greg Anthony was the leading scorer for the Grizzlies.
 

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I don’t get this jordan is the goat but he was not the best college player...College I mean shyt you had some beast people we don’t even want to mention we’re better in college.

mom showing my age but Christian lattener was dominant one college....Glenn Robinson was a beast dude was damn near unstoppable.chris jackson (Abdul-rauf) was a monster also.

and y’all probably think I’m tripping but I don’t even think college wise MJ was the best tar hill.
 
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I don’t get this jordan is the goat but he was not the best college player...College I mean shyt you had some beast people we don’t even want to mention we’re better in college.
College isn't the NBA. While Basketball is Basketball. In FIBA, some guys are killers and beast but some guys struggle. In the NBA, some guys suck who would kill FIBA while some kill both. MJ was great at them all but he was deadly in the NBA, simply on of the ATGs. In college, he was great but if you compare his accomplishments to guys like Pistol Pete, Bill Walton, Kareem, Big O, Bob Pettit, he didn't have as decorated of an NCAA career. That said, he has one of the most decorated NBA careers ever.
 

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I don’t get this jordan is the goat but he was not the best college player...College I mean shyt you had some beast people we don’t even want to mention we’re better in college.

mom showing my age but Christian lattener was dominant one college....Glenn Robinson was a beast dude was damn near unstoppable.chris jackson (Abdul-rauf) was a monster also.

and y’all probably think I’m tripping but I don’t even think college wise MJ was the best tar hill.
It's hard to say MJ wasn't the best Tar Heel, who did you think it was, Phil Ford? Hansbrough? Jamison? Sheed? Worthy? MJ might be the most accomplished individual in UNC history with Hansbrough.
 

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Ewing was the better college player because of his insanely good defensive awareness. Because of that his teams were able to thrive inside out problem was unlike Jordan or a lot of the new school guys like Drexler, Nique Hakeem, The Admiral. He was never a good athlete and that hampered him offensively in the NBA.

Jordan was a beast in his own right but Dean Smith's system took a team first approach and essentially moving the ball to the player who had the best shot to take.
 

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College isn't the NBA. While Basketball is Basketball. In FIBA, some guys are killers and beast but some guys struggle. In the NBA, some guys suck who would kill FIBA while some kill both. MJ was great at them all but he was deadly in the NBA, simply on of the ATGs. In college, he was great but if you compare his accomplishments to guys like Pistol Pete, Bill Walton, Kareem, Big O, Bob Pettit, he didn't have as decorated of an NCAA career. That said, he has one of the most decorated NBA careers ever.

MJ is the goat to me but his college career is not the best ever that’s mainly what I’m saying...like take away the fact it’s MJ and just look at stats and accolades.
 
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