Let's keep it real: Patrick Ewing was a better college Basketball player than Michael Jordan

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Mike (freshman): 13.5 ppg, 4.4 rpg, 1.8 apg
Worthy (junior): 15.6 ppg, 6.3 rpg, 2.4 apg
ewing (freshman): 12.7ppg, 7.5 rpg, 0.6 apg

Worthy wasn't exactly blowing mike out of the water statistically. Team was pretty balanced. If jordan was a role player, what were matt doherty and jimmy black?

And the awards you listed, mj got 20 in 3 years then entered the draft. Ewing got 19 in 3 years. Came back for his senior year and scooped up an additional 13, so given context, the discrepancy doesn't mean much.

You clearly don't understand college hoops historically speaking.
Role players. In the four corners offense, you had a key guy who got the majority of the touches and the rest was role players. The good thing about the four corners was everyone was getting shots but you only had one star on average. It's not like today where you have these iso based offenses like Duke last year where Zion and R.J. dominated the rock. MJ if he played today would have done the same. That's why Chicago is like Dean Smith held him back when Dean never held back Michael. shyt, he taught Michael how to play Basketball. That's why he was so fukking good when he entered the NBA. Four corners are one of the best fundamental offenses you can run. It's special. You teach perimeter players feel for the game, how to see the game, how to attack situations, and how to make reads. shyt is lovely, to be honest. I hate that it kinda died with Dean. Coach Roy runs aspects of it but it's like the triple option, the new style of play has killed it, even at the college level. The three-point shot ruined fundamental basketball.

You might want to add defensive stats. Ewing had some of the most insane freshman defensive stats in the nation.

Year 2 and 3, MJ was the star of the four corners.

 

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nobody. Op is a MJ hater who has previously been on record saying that James harden and Steph are better offensive players than MJ. he has an agenda.

Negged for being a full-blown fakkit. I am far from a MJ hater you mark ass nikka. shyt I am a big fan of MJ, I am just not a stan and I hate his stans. I had issues with Kobe stans until he died. After he died, I just let them be.

 

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People don't understand, the reason why MJ was so good in the NBA was because of Dean Smith. shyt, it's the reason Vince Carter is still playing at 43.

 

[10bandz]

Negged for being a full-blown fakkit. I am far from a MJ hater you mark ass nikka.

Negged me for pointing out your absurd notion that harden and Steph are better offensively than MJ pointless ass thread

 

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Negged me for pointing out your absurd notion that harden and Steph are better offensively than MJ pointless ass thread

I negged you because you are a full-blown bytch nikka. How I am a hater of Michael Jeffery Jordan? I got a lot of his shoes, I know alI his history, I had over 200 full gametapes of him and watched over 1k games of Jordan. shyt, I watched most of his docs, hell I got MJ jerseys and MJ cards. You got negged for saying I am a hater of his. That's extremely false. I am not a stan, but I am clearly a fan of his.

 

[NYC Rebel]

Bill Russell or bust. I think people assumed because Ewing carried average players in college that he would do the same in the NBA and win. The NBA even rigged the draft for him.

I made this thread for the idiots who don't realize how good these guys were before the NBA. Ewing was the #1 recruit in the nation.

Read this:

This article is great. I used to always clown Ewing and his "gathers" because it was so slow. By the time he finished bending his knees to jump, he was already dunked on.

 

[NYC Rebel]

I feel the same way about Hershel Walker compared to Bo Jackson. Hershel was the better college player

 

[Cadillac]

Ewing had a better legacy in college, but if you really think he was a better player than Mike, you obviously have some agenda.

Mike whooped on All-NBA players as an amateur in the Olympics. If that's not telling of what was to come than idk what is.

He's a Bron fan trying to take shots

 

[10bandz]

I negged you because you are a full-blown bytch nikka. How I am a hater of Michael Jeffery Jordan? I got a lot of his shoes, I know alI his history, I had over 200 full gametapes of him and watched over 1k games of Jordan. shyt, I watched most of his docs, hell I got MJ jerseys and MJ cards. You got negged for saying I am a hater of his. That's extremely false. I am not a stan, but I am clearly a fan of his.

You think Harden and Steph are better offensive players than MJ, you made this pointless as thread since no one argued MJ was the best college player. Youre an undercover MJ hater like a lot of other guys here. You’re also dikkriding Joe Biden heavy so who’s the fakkit

 

[#1 pick]

This article is great. I used to always clown Ewing and his "gathers" because it was so slow. By the time he finished bending his knees to jump, he was already dunked on.

That's pretty much what happened to him in the NBA. He was a great run/jump athletic with great size and defensive instincts. But when it was time to show skill, Ewing looked lost in the wind. He used to post up for 8 hours too if he couldn't get that jumper to fall. His gathers were slow, his feel for the game on the offensive end lagged heavily compared guys like Barkley and Robinson. He wasn't uncoordinated whatsoever but he just wasn't naturally fluid either. The Knicks didn't do him justice kinda like how they did Melo but his flaws were always on full display.

 

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He's a Bron fan trying to take shots

Stan babble

 

[mastermind]

Ralph Sampson>both

Although he was a choker

great thread tho

 

[mastermind]

This article is great. I used to always clown Ewing and his "gathers" because it was so slow. By the time he finished bending his knees to jump, he was already dunked on.

People need to be honest about John Thompson’s big man academy. No one wants to have that convo cuz feelings will be hurt.

I will put it like this, Othella Harrington was Georgetown’s most skilled offensive big man in the Big John era.

 

[YoungMoneyCashMoneyBoy]

You clearly don't understand college hoops historically speaking.
Role players. In the four corners offense, you had a key guy who got the majority of the touches and the rest was role players. The good thing about the four corners was everyone was getting shots but you only had one star on average. It's not like today where you have these iso based offenses like Duke last year where Zion and R.J. dominated the rock. MJ if he played today would have done the same. That's why Chicago is like Dean Smith held him back when Dean never held back Michael. shyt, he taught Michael how to play Basketball. That's why he was so fukking good when he entered the NBA. Four corners are one of the best fundamental offenses you can run. It's special. You teach perimeter players feel for the game, how to see the game, how to attack situations, and how to make reads. shyt is lovely, to be honest. I hate that it kinda died with Dean. Coach Roy runs aspects of it but it's like the triple option, the new style of play has killed it, even at the college level. The three-point shot ruined fundamental basketball.

You might want to add defensive stats. Ewing had some of the most insane freshman defensive stats in the nation.

Year 2 and 3, MJ was the star of the four corners.

Shut up and save your paragraphs. I'm using your words and the awards you posted against you.

I see 9 different types of Player of the Year awards for Mike(including Naismith and wooden). 6 for ewing. You can deny a lie but you can't deny the truth.

 

[HTXBreh]

nobody. Op is a MJ hater who has previously been on record saying that James harden and Steph are better offensive players than MJ. he has an agenda.

Let's not turn this thread about Harden.