Lets keep it real.. 16bit was the Golden Age of Videogames

[up in here]

at 16bit games being mostly bad quality, Back in those games you could beat a game multiple times and not get bored. I've said this before and I'll say it again there are only like 2 or 3 games since 99 that I bothered playing through again 1st Metal Gear Solid, Gears of War, and Batman AA. 3D is mostly story driven than actual gameplay and fun, even when the games are funny who wants to spend 20hrs playing it again :notimeforthat: especially when some games won't allow you to skip cutscenes even if you already seen them.
I'd take a Legend of Zelda Link to the Past over any of those overrated N64,Gamecube,and Wii Zeldas, Super Metroid over and Prime game, Street Fighter 2 over SF4, Megaman X over this games Capcom has been putting out in recent years.

Gameplay>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Graphics

i was with you until you said that bolded shyt right there. Them Zelda games on N64 was perfect. And they had replay value thats stands to this day.

 

[WOAHMYGOODNESS]

at 16bit games being mostly bad quality, Back in those games you could beat a game multiple times and not get bored. I've said this before and I'll say it again there are only like 2 or 3 games since 99 that I bothered playing through again 1st Metal Gear Solid, Gears of War, and Batman AA. 3D is mostly story driven than actual gameplay and fun, even when the games are funny who wants to spend 20hrs playing it again :notimeforthat: especially when some games won't allow you to skip cutscenes even if you already seen them.
I'd take a Legend of Zelda Link to the Past over any of those overrated N64,Gamecube,and Wii Zeldas, Super Metroid over and Prime game, Street Fighter 2 over SF4, Megaman X over this games Capcom has been putting out in recent years.

Gameplay>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Graphics

 

[jdashmaj]

I'd rather a Link to The Past over Orcarina of Time all day I actually prefer Windwaker and Skyward Sword over Orcarina too. I wasn't one of those people that think it was the GOAT Zelda game I thought it was good but to me A Link to the Past is the GOAT I've beaten that game over and over again several times now.

 

[Dominic Brehetto]

This past generation with ps3 and 360 has been the worst ever in terms of games. Its seriously pretty much killed my interest in gaming. Games have no creativity anymore. Even when a new idea or game comes out it gets run into the ground with sequels quickly.

how anyone can tell me the games now are great with a straight face. Oh yay! Another fps game with multiplayer. fukk outta here.

 

[up in here]

This past generation with ps3 and 360 has been the worst ever in terms of games. Its seriously pretty much killed my interest in gaming. Games have no creativity anymore. Even when a new idea or game comes out it gets run into the ground with sequels quickly.

how anyone can tell me the games now are great with a straight face. Oh yay! Another fps game with multiplayer. fukk outta here.

truthfully, i kinda feel the same way, i mean, technically the games was good but there wasn't too many points where i really all that blown away by gameplay. but maybe its because this has been the longest generation too so its really kinda starting to really drag. i mean when this gen first started shyt was dope, and motion controls before they was played to death with the countless gimmicky games did have me hooked for about a year or two.

the sequels really have been overkilling shyt. i think one of the reasons replay value has gone down is because the sequels. like why play the same game twice when the new version just came out. and sports games are really only good for the year they come out. and i understand it from a business perspective, to recycle games to keep costs down in programming and development, but games life spans have gone down so far

 

[courtdog]

at 16bit games being mostly bad quality, Back in those games you could beat a game multiple times and not get bored. I've said this before and I'll say it again there are only like 2 or 3 games since 99 that I bothered playing through again 1st Metal Gear Solid, Gears of War, and Batman AA. 3D is mostly story driven than actual gameplay and fun, even when the games are funny who wants to spend 20hrs playing it again :notimeforthat: especially when some games won't allow you to skip cutscenes even if you already seen them.
I'd take a Legend of Zelda Link to the Past over any of those overrated N64,Gamecube,and Wii Zeldas, Super Metroid over and Prime game, Street Fighter 2 over SF4, Megaman X over this games Capcom has been putting out in recent years.

Gameplay>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Graphics

I wanna frame this post and put it on the wall o' fame

 

[Northern Son]

16 bit is the golden age. It's just fact.

32 bit is my favorite era and a close second.

 

[courtdog]

I'd rather a Link to The Past over Orcarina of Time all day I actually prefer Windwaker and Skyward Sword over Orcarina too. I wasn't one of those people that think it was the GOAT Zelda game I thought it was good but to me A Link to the Past is the GOAT I've beaten that game over and over again several times now.

Yup, A Link to the Past was the pinnacle of Zelda. And you know why?
That was the last time Zelda had a new story. Zelda: OOT was a 3D imagination of an old story. Had new features, but the overall story didn't feel like a sequel. It was more like a reboot
Zelda was GOAT... Zelda II I liked it, but wasn't as popular overall
Super Nintendo comes out, and they take it back to old skool style of gameplay, and they throw you in the forest.. I remember an apple. You go in a dungeon and you break a pot
Sounds lame, but it wasn't.. and the musical scores from that game resonate in my memories like nikkaz makin rap beats out of em'
These dudes could of been sending me hidden messages, I don't know.
If I hear this..
I start fiending just to LOOK at this

Man just look at how fukkin shiny that shyt is yo
Like, I just wanna rub that cartridge across my skin and everything will be alright
There was something powerful in those cartridges. But back to the music.. this was my favorite for some reason.. [ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snjQZfvgzrc[/ame]
The N64 version was epic, but fell short IMO as well. It left its traditional RPG roots, turned into a more of a western RPG more than a JRPG aka Zelda II
Now if they took it back again, threw that bytch on Wii-U?
Then Miyamoto can make a Super Mario 128, not galaxy 3? Maybe an Super mario World 2 HD
A proper sequel to Metroid, like an HD remake and throw a number 2 on that bytch
Somebody send them a link to this thread...

truthfully, i kinda feel the same way, i mean, technically the games was good but there wasn't too many points where i really all that blown away by gameplay. but maybe its because this has been the longest generation too so its really kinda starting to really drag. i mean when this gen first started shyt was dope, and motion controls before they was played to death with the countless gimmicky games did have me hooked for about a year or two.

the sequels really have been overkilling shyt. i think one of the reasons replay value has gone down is because the sequels. like why play the same game twice when the new version just came out. and sports games are really only good for the year they come out. and i understand it from a business perspective, to recycle games to keep costs down in programming and development, but games life spans have gone down so far

Yeah, the biggest problem this gen is innovation. Anything that is successful other companies try to copy it
This was unheard of in previous gens of the good ol' days. If somebody tried, it wouldn't get the same hype/respect games today get.
This gen alone in the FPS department we got what.. 4 Halo's, 4 Gears, 7COD's, 3Ghost Recon's, 3 Rainbow 6's once the new one drops soon, 3 Resistance, 2Killzones with a 3rd around the corner, surprisingly only on Socom and it was good but hated on 3 uncharteds.

Basically this gen they doubled down on the amount of times they hit that good well
Or better known as "pulling a nintendo"

 

[RJY33]

8 bit, 16 bit>>>>>>>>

The variety of genres, difficulty, gameplay, innovation, replayabilty, and sound/music cannot be fukked with by todays consoles. NES was putting out 20 classic games a year from 85-90. How many truly great games do we get a year now? Maybe 3 tops?

 

[jdashmaj]

Yup, A Link to the Past was the pinnacle of Zelda. And you know why?
That was the last time Zelda had a new story. Zelda: OOT was a 3D imagination of an old story. Had new features, but the overall story didn't feel like a sequel. It was more like a reboot
Zelda was GOAT... Zelda II I liked it, but wasn't as popular overall
Super Nintendo comes out, and they take it back to old skool style of gameplay, and they throw you in the forest.. I remember an apple. You go in a dungeon and you break a pot
Sounds lame, but it wasn't.. and the musical scores from that game resonate in my memories like nikkaz makin rap beats out of em'
These dudes could of been sending me hidden messages, I don't know.
If I hear this.. Legend of Zelda: A link to The Past music - overworld theme - YouTube
I start fiending just to LOOK at this

Man just look at how fukkin shiny that shyt is yo
Like, I just wanna rub that cartridge across my skin and everything will be alright
There was something powerful in those cartridges. But back to the music.. this was my favorite for some reason.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snjQZfvgzrc
The N64 version was epic, but fell short IMO as well. It left its traditional RPG roots, turned into a more of a western RPG more than a JRPG aka Zelda II
Now if they took it back again, threw that bytch on Wii-U?
Then Miyamoto can make a Super Mario 128, not galaxy 3? Maybe an Super mario World 2 HD
A proper sequel to Metroid, like an HD remake and throw a number 2 on that bytch
Somebody send them a link to this thread...

Yeah, the biggest problem this gen is innovation. Anything that is successful other companies try to copy it
This was unheard of in previous gens of the good ol' days. If somebody tried, it wouldn't get the same hype/respect games today get.
This gen alone in the FPS department we got what.. 4 Halo's, 4 Gears, 7COD's, 3Ghost Recon's, 3 Rainbow 6's once the new one drops soon, 3 Resistance, 2Killzones with a 3rd around the corner, surprisingly only on Socom and it was good but hated on 3 uncharteds.

Basically this gen they doubled down on the amount of times they hit that good well
Or better known as "pulling a nintendo"

the soundtrack the gameplay everything was perfect in A Link to the Past hearing this music makes me wish I was 9yrs old again playing this for the first time

 

[NZA]

I'm still in love with 8bit. But 16-bit was a perfect complement/upgrade to the 8bit era
32bit introduced shytty 3D graphics and really brought us into a new way of gaming.
And while some of the new stuff is cool, the problem that people didn't really think about is how many genres died with 16bit

SHUMPS became scarce

Side Scrolling Brawlers became extinct

A game like Adventures of LoLo wouldn't of been practical in 3D

The Deadly Towers had a charm about it that couldn't be done on newer systems because there would be too much extra bull'ish involved

RPG's turned from what they were to long winded cut-scenes of homo looking hero's (I hated FF10)

God of War is a game that some ppl like. But Legendary Axe was my God of War. And if they made Legendary Axe today? It would be this long story, it wouldn't play anything like the old school version. It would be this 3D environment that most likely would fukkin suck. It would be some guys "interpretation" of what he envisions for the game. Just like they did to Rygar

shmups actually reached their peak in the 32 bit era on the saturn, but in general i actually agree with you. 16-bit was the golden age, as a matter of fact, it's golden era coincided with the best era of hip hop

of course 2D technology was a huge factor in the reason why the games where the way they were, but i also wonder what role the business side had in this. there were far more modest development costs but publishing was very expensive since you had to buy tons of ROM carts and ship them to every toy store in the world, basically. anecdotally i would say publishers spent more money on marketing since it was in their best interest to make sure a game never died on the shelf unlike today where it's mostly dev studios feeling desperate. video game ad campaigns seemed better back then since that was the publisher's only chance to make the investment worth it.

 

[hex]

16 bit had its gems but most games were bad quality.

32 bit era downright sucked in my opinion. Most games have aged poorly.

Ps2 era-- i never could really get into the games.

Your credibility took a nosedive right here.

Fred.

 

[courtdog]

shmups actually reached their peak in the 32 bit era on the saturn, but in general i actually agree with you. 16-bit was the golden age, as a matter of fact, it's golden era coincided with the best era of hip hop

of course 2D technology was a huge factor in the reason why the games where the way they were, but i also wonder what role the business side had in this. there were far more modest development costs but publishing was very expensive since you had to buy tons of ROM carts and ship them to every toy store in the world, basically. anecdotally i would say publishers spent more money on marketing since it was in their best interest to make sure a game never died on the shelf unlike today where it's mostly dev studios feeling desperate. video game ad campaigns seemed better back then since that was the publisher's only chance to make the investment worth it.

No internet, less channels for cable if people even had cable. Less room for ads on TV means more competition. Now a days there are so many channels that game companies can target certain stations like Cartoon Network/etc instead of wasting there time advertising somewhere else.

As for the Schumps and Saturn era. Knowing a person who had a Saturn is like knowing an american indian. Not very likely, so that couldn't of been the Golden era
And the Sega Genesis in particular had tons of schumps. Thunder Force was the shyt
And while trying to name some more, I end up with more NES shooters like Section-Z and Legendary Wings
But Genesis had Battle Squadron (so did SNES)
Darius 2

And now I'm remembering the TG-16 shumps that was the shyt like
SuperStar Soilder, A better version of R-Type
That one flying game where you'd go in the hot air ballons to buy equipment
Somebody please help me remember the name of this game.. you flew a ship, and your head would stick out the top, hair would move in the wind.. wtf
Then there was Gates of thunder, Aero Blasters, Dragon Spirit
Then they tried to go hard with this [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTnfEX89t6o"]Rare Turbo Express (Portable Turbo Grafx 16) w/TV Tuner in HQ - YouTube[/ame]
but now I'm just all over the place...

 

[KevCo]

alot of this discussion is based on nostalgia, but i agree that to me, the 16 bit era is my fav...super nintendo was my shyt (bought it from a kid for 50 bucks, gave me a super scope and mario world, like a year after it came out ) and my neighbor who was my best friend had a sega...best time of gaming in my life.

 

[courtdog]

alot of this discussion is based on nostalgia, but i agree that to me, the 16 bit era is my fav...super nintendo was my shyt (bought it from a kid for 50 bucks, gave me a super scope and mario world, like a year after it came out ) and my neighbor who was my best friend had a sega...best time of gaming in my life.

But you know, we can't all be O.G's