Let’s just end this debate right now, Kobe Bryant dominated Tim Duncan’s teams in the playoffs. Like, consistently, every single time.
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VegetasHairline
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Everyone wanna make it about it being Shaq's team and Shaq carried Kobe but they didn't win a championship until Kobe became an elite player. Shaq couldn't get it done with Eddie Jones. He needed Kobe to reach the level he got to.
Everythingg
King-Over-Kingz
That SG averaged 27 pts in the reg season and like 35 in the finalsIt was so irreplaceable that Shaq left and instantly won a title with a different 2 guard
You’re essentially saying Shaq needed a top tier guard to win. How can that be a dig at Kobe?
Everythingg
King-Over-Kingz
Shaq was unusable during crunch time and not everyone thrives in crunch time. Kobe did. Shaq was a good passer but not to the extent of a Jokic where you can run plays thru him consistently in the post. You could run plays thru Kobe and have him create for hisself and others. They both needed each other.Stans really trying to rewrite history and say that the 3peat Lakers weren't Shaqs team?
People mistake one being more dominant as meaning that he carried everyone else. Kareem was considered unstoppable but no one said it wasn’t Magics team or that Kareem carried Magic because of that. That’s a narrative that only came up when Kobe came around to diminish his contributions
Roger king
Superstar
Conveniently left out when Duncan swept Kobe and Shaq in 99'. Op post isnt serious.
What do you expect? There isnt going to be any fair and objective discussion, just agenda and narratives. Shaq was the main and primary reason those laker teams won 3 championships, he was the most dominant player and force in the league. Tim duncan has more accolades, a higher peak in the sport, to me its not remotely close, duncan is the better player.
SymbolicOne09
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He lost to detroit with kobe malone gpI'm not downplaying Penny. Shaq won 3 championships playing with Kobe. Lost his only Finals playing with Penny.
SymbolicOne09
All Star
You didnt watch any of this shyt. Exit the thread please
Kobe had a better team in '03 and Duncan still won.
Controversy
Superstar
Why do both Bruce Bowen and Tony Parker rank Bean ahead of Timmy 
4-1 in the 2000s...
4-1 in the 2000s...
NYC Rebel
...on the otherside of the pond
This is a lie. People do say that.
malbaker86
Gators
It’s ALWAYS and I mean ALWAYS Kobe stans insecure about TD.
Find a TD/Spurs fan that has made a TD>>>Kobe thread
I’ll wait
Find a TD/Spurs fan that has made a TD>>>Kobe thread
I’ll wait
GreatestLaker
#FirePelinka
That's a lie.
Spurs won 60 games and Lakers barely won 50 games.
The Lakers supporting cast were old and worn out from going to the finals in 3 straight years. Kobe played with an injured knee and shoulder that both needed surgery. If it was any other player they would have missed the series vs the Spurs.
Greenhornet
A God Among Kings
just off reality and eye test kobe is a better player
shaq and kobe dont matter.... they were both pieces of shyt who destroyed teams together... it wasnt even fair that they played in tandem you can say one carried the other but who cares
them beefing was the point of them both being great and wanting the ball ... all yall fair-weather fans are dumb once again, like most arguments
duncan is amazing but spurs were a team... we never even got to see duncan at his highest level due to how the game was played over there
shaq and kobe dont matter.... they were both pieces of shyt who destroyed teams together... it wasnt even fair that they played in tandem
you can say one carried the other but who caresthem beefing was the point of them both being great and wanting the ball ... all yall fair-weather fans are dumb once again, like most arguments
duncan is amazing but spurs were a team... we never even got to see duncan at his highest level due to how the game was played over there
IIVI
Superstar
Honestly, if I’m building a team today I’m picking Kobe over TD.
Kobe brought a lot more utility than people realize. Dude at least would be able to match up 1-4 out there. Everything Jaylen Brown can do, Kobe would be able to and he was Finals MVP.
No doubt Duncan was a great team player and his game worked for that time, but individually, Kobe’s game and attributes much closer resembles today’s basketball.
Kobe brought a lot more utility than people realize. Dude at least would be able to match up 1-4 out there. Everything Jaylen Brown can do, Kobe would be able to and he was Finals MVP.
No doubt Duncan was a great team player and his game worked for that time, but individually, Kobe’s game and attributes much closer resembles today’s basketball.
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