Let's face it to most women when it comes down to it men are disposable

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no but i'll tell you what is stupid. someone makes a logically sound argument and while you don't agree with it you call it stupid without actually proving it so.

usually this is done because somebody doesn't really like what you're saying and beyond that they got nothing.

Honestly, your contributions in this thread are so piss-poor, I dont know where to begin. I mean, you're confusing the idea of men physically protecting their family, with a movement for equality. This idea that because women fought to be able to have more agency over their lives, and have the chance to perform physically neutral jobs (doesnt the fact that women want to work help the household?), should also mean they physically fight your battles or protect the household is one of the more asinine things Ive heard.

You use the example of sacrifice "women and children first", but how often does that happen in real life? Thats not the same as a man confronting a burglar, because its just common sense that a man would do that given his strength, versus that of his wife.
 

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I've only exchanged a few posts with WinB, but he's probably the most cynical person I have ever encountered in the internet or in real life. At best he is cynical, at worst his ideas on people and human behavior is nihilistic and sociopathic.
 

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Honestly, your contributions in this thread are so piss-poor, I dont know where to begin. I mean, you're confusing the idea of men physically protecting their family, with a movement for equality. This idea that because women fought to be able to have more agency over their lives, and have the chance to perform physically neutral jobs (doesnt the fact that women want to work help the household?), should also mean they physically fight your battles or protect the household is one of the more asinine things Ive heard.

You use the example of sacrifice "women and children first", but how often does that happen in real life? Thats not the same as a man confronting a burglar, because its just common sense that a man would do that given his strength, versus that of his wife.
No I said that when it comes down to it a woman views a man as disposable meaning that if its down to you or she because she is a woman she will expect you as a man to offer yourself to save her.


That scene is man and a woman in a life or death situation. The woman is going to die an tells the man to save himself. He refuses and chooses to die with her because he loves her and doesn't wanna be without her. That's equality. Equality is we ride together and we die together if it comes down to it not me telling a chick I'll save her and her going ok and running off to save her own ass because I'm disposable.

Equality is not you can get drafted and go to war and fight and die to protected because I'm a woman I shouldn't have to do those things.

Equality isn't if the boat is going down I'm a woman so I should be allowed on the life raft while you get to stay and die. If a woman is equal to a man her life is worth the same as his and that sort of preferential treatment shouldn't exist.

These things are not equality they're selective equality it's picking and choosing the spots that you're equal and the ones when you aren't based on the most favorable outcome.
 
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Both men and women have their faults, you just have to accept this is the way we are as human beings and just live life and enjoy it. Always take care of number one first but when you find a woman you love you will naturally want to protect her so i wouldnt look to deep into it.
 
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Thread isn't about any persons relationship but the hypocrisy of the American woman today. You cant jump back and forth between independent feminist to submissive woman when its beneficial. Hes saying that children and women first shyt in times of distress should be thrown in the bushes and I agree :manny:

And that's cool that you agree with that.

It's kinda selfish, but, hey, that's human nature

Once you have your own family and it's a time of distress
you won't feel this way, I promise.
 

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Thank God that us as men are loyal and willing to sacrifice ourselves for the weaker sex. Imagine if both sexes were like women. Dont hate women for giving us this responsibility and naturally looking to us to save them, that shyt is a gift and a testament to the strength of men, something to be proud of if ya ask me.
 

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This thread is like the difference between me deciding to get my wife a valentines day gift because I love her and want to do something nice for her and her looking at the calendar and saying its valentines day he better get me a gift or I'm gonna be pissed. You can't really appreciate something you feel entitled to because entitlement is the opposite of appreciation. Because I call out the entitlement doesn't mean I don't wanna buy the gift. I just don't appreciate the entitlement.
 

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This thread is like the difference between me deciding to get my wife a valentines day gift because I love her and want to do something nice for her and her looking at the calendar and saying its valentines day he better get me a gift or I'm gonna be pissed. You can't really appreciate something you feel entitled to because entitlement is the opposite of appreciation. Because I call out the entitlement doesn't mean I don't wanna buy the gift. I just don't appreciate the entitlement.

Neither do i, but thats women :manny:

So the trick here is to wife up a woman who wont make you mad when she pulls out here entitlement card.
 

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And that's cool that you agree with that.

It's kinda selfish, but, hey, that's human nature

Once you have your own family and it's a time of distress
you won't feel this way, I promise.

Selfish? Its playing fair and its exactly what women should want. Its equality, I didnt say anything about my family. Im saying in times of distress random women shouldnt be saved with the children first or be allowed to eat with children first when food is scarce. Why do you keep making it a personal thing? Of course im protecting my wife, mom, or sisters. But random women that are endangered:comeon: Its everyone for themselves :mjpls:
 

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It's not about being disposable. It's about doing the right thing. You should protect others because it's the right thing to do. I dont need to love someone to stand up for them. And yes valuing yourself over your kids and their mom is the definition of cowardice. He was supposed to be determined to get his entire family out of that situtaion, but he chose to save himself because he wasn't confident in his ability to protect his family.

Why stand up for someone you dont know and doesnt give 2 shyts if you catch one or not? :huhldup:
 

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Selfish? Its playing fair and its exactly what women should want. Its equality, I didnt say anything about my family. Im saying in times of distress random women shouldnt be saved with the children first or be allowed to eat with children first when food is scarce. Why do you keep making it a personal thing? Of course im protecting my wife, mom, or sisters. But random women that are endangered:comeon: Its everyone for themselves :mjpls:

But you aren't saving the women you love because its your duty. That's outta love not responsibility. It's a gift. My whole point is many of these woman view that as mans responsibility and feel entitled to him protecting her even to the death and a lot of them are the same ones saying women and men are equals.

Because I say my wife expects me to get the gun and go downstairs if she hears a noise doesn't mean I want or expect her to do it in my place I just don't appreciate her attitude of you go down there and check it out and whatever happens to you happens. It's not my job to die for a woman I love it's my choice.

The posters here totally lost my point and got stuck on me supposedly wanting women to lead and protect me which I never even said.
 

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Why stand up for someone you dont know and doesnt give 2 shyts if you catch one or not? :huhldup:

Because I'm a selfless person. I'm not looking for any reward, and I'm not looking for anything in return. I have and will continue to stand up for people because its the right thing to do. Because I would want someone to do the same for my mom my wife or my daughter, or me if I needed it. I'm not concerned what people give two shyts about. It's called being principled, you do the right thing regardless of what someone else says or feels.
 

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Because I'm a selfless person. I'm not looking for any reward, and I'm not looking for anything in return. I have and will continue to stand up for people because its the right thing to do. Because I would want someone to do the same for my mom my wife or my daughter, or me if I needed it. I'm not concerned what people give two shyts about. It's called being principled, you do the right thing regardless of what someone else says or feels.

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Because I'm a selfless person. I'm not looking for any reward, and I'm not looking for anything in return. I have and will continue to stand up for people because its the right thing to do. Because I would want someone to do the same for my mom my wife or my daughter, or me if I needed it. I'm not concerned what people give two shyts about. It's called being principled, you do the right thing regardless of what someone else says or feels.

Idk about this reward you speak of, ive never mentioned anything like that. This isnt an ideal world, so you'd martyr yourself and throw your children and fam in the bushes? :skip:
 
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