Lets Discuss What went wrong with Bernie Sanders' campaign ?

[Mr Hate Coffee]

Making proposals like ending wars, free education, free health care, etc aren't ideas that burn everything to the ground, when republican and democratic voters agree with these issues. These ideas poll high amongst voters.
It doesn't matter if they "gave him" a platform when they have shown they'll do anything to take it away if he has a shot at winning. If warren dropped out and mayor pete and amy stayed Bernie would have had a 150+ delegate lead right now even if he still lost some of the states in the last few primaries.

I agree with you but he just got blown out in the head to head. Yes, a lot of people gave up but it’s on his campaign to hammer how important it is to keep going... if for no other reason than to make a statement. Him getting crushed only lends more credence to the idea that he isn’t really electable.

 

[Pure Water]

That's major cap. Bernie has just as much name recognition as Joe. Also, he's been campaigning for almost 5 years and a lot of his ideas have become apart of the national conversation. Democratic voters just don't like Bernie .

Believe what you want to believe. It doesn't even matter anymore.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

That's major cap. Bernie has just as much name recognition as Joe. Also, he's been campaigning for almost 5 years and a lot of his ideas have become apart of the national conversation. Democratic voters just don't like Bernie .

How does your claim fit with Bernie throughout nearly the entire campaign have the highest favorability rating and lowest negatives of all the candidates?

Until the final week of the campaign everyone loved Bernie. They said straight up that it was electability questions that made the vote for someone else, not because they disagreed with his positions or disliked him as a person. Bernie beat Biden in favorability until the final days, beat Biden in "agree with his positions on the issues" even IN the final days, and beat Biden in "cares about people like me." The only reason they voted for Biden is because the media hard-pushed Bernie as unelectable and divisive even though the polls didn't support that, and folk ended up buying that narrative.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

People voted Biden on electability and comfort level, along with a constant media mantra that Bernie was "problematic" while completely ignoring Biden's gaffes and the collaboration of all the other candidates to come together and endorse Biden at the exact right time while even Warren, Steyer, Castro, Yang, etc. refused to align with the progressive candidate.

The fact that Biden went all over the campaign trail straight lying that he had been arrested trying to visit Mandela, straight lying that he had been arrested in Soweto, fukking blew my mind. I had to read that shyt in the fukking British papers to even know it happened. Meanwhile the media was going crazy over some TRUE shyt that Bernie said way back in 1982. All they had to do was make people believe there was enough dirt on Bernie that "he couldn't get elected in the general". And they managed to do that.

I don't know why all the hot takes in here are just making shyt up out of thin air. Why don't you believe the opinion polls? Why don't you believe the exit polls? Why don't you trust what you actually saw happen in real time?

 

[Professor Emeritus]

and complex trillion dollar ideas need trillion dollar funding.

Trump threw rich folk a $2 trillion tax break without any way to pay for it and it got passed. Trump gave the military a $1.5 trillion bump in funding over the next decade and folk barely even talked about it. 2000s Republicans tossed away trillions to Medicare Part D and two wars and didn't have any way to pay for it. Obama spent almost a trillion on economic stimulus and didn't even try to pay for it.


Bernie had trillion-dollar funding plans detailed explicitly, but they were ignored by the media who only demands funding for progressive ideas while ignoring the lack of funding for centrist/right-wing plans.

 

[jj23]

People voted Biden on electability and comfort level, along with a constant media mantra that Bernie was "problematic" while completely ignoring Biden's gaffes and the collaboration of all the other candidates to come together and endorse Biden at the exact right time while even Warren, Steyer, Castro, Yang, etc. refused to align with the progressive candidate.

The fact that Biden went all over the campaign trail straight lying that he had been arrested trying to visit Mandela, straight lying that he had been arrested in Soweto, fukking blew my mind. I had to read that shyt in the fukking British papers to even know it happened. Meanwhile the media was going crazy over some TRUE shyt that Bernie said way back in 1982. All they had to do was make people believe there was enough dirt on Bernie that "he couldn't get elected in the general". And they managed to do that.

I don't know why all the hot takes in here are just making shyt up out of thin air. Why don't you believe the opinion polls? Why don't you believe the exit polls? Why don't you trust what you actually saw happen in real time?

Opinion polls and exit polls show that Bernie, liked or not, ran a clear second to Biden.

The media narrative thing is a cop out in my book. Bernie actively ran against all of these institutions as the establishment. To expect the narrative on him wouldn't be negative is naive. I dont think the narrative changed any more or less from 2016, so you would have hoped that he would have prepared for it.

 

[mitter]

Most of all, the negative and biased media coverage is to blame.

But the Sanders campaign did make some mistakes.


They tried to be all things to all people (paying too much attention to loudmouths online and on TV)

Moderate/Conservative Dems never have to have any detailed plans to address specific concerns of various groups in the Democratic coalition. But for some reason, a left-wing candidate like Sanders (who has been on the right side of history basically his whole life) was constantly criticized for not having plans to address (insert random issue here).

I think Sanders' campaign overcorrected, and by not continuing to emphasize their more universal, broadly appealing message, they lost the appeal they once had to certain parts of the electorate.

But really, the impact of that just pales in comparison to the difficulty in dealing with a biased media.

 

[Atlrocafella]

He needed political killers on his team.

He got people not ready for primetime. It’s cool tho, Nina Turner is going to be a force in the future, but it didn’t help Bernie’s 2020 campaign.

No one from the tree of Bernie Sanders will prosper, that includes Nina Turner.

 

[Secure Da Bag]

His Revolution came to the everyone but the group who needed it most.

 

[Xcoyote]

The US has been a reactionary hellhole since it's inception,these ghouls couldn't even vote for the imperialist social democrat.Sanders was ouchea literally running on the premise of using war spoils to fund their healthcare but no, American bootlickers only have to enrich their masters.

 

[Starman]

Fear of Trump being reelected made some people risk averse. And revolution is risky.

In addition to many answers already posted

 

[Atlrocafella]

He didn’t learn anything from losing to a disliked Hillary Clinton in 2016. Same message, same promises, and even lost more around this time. The American people DO NOT want his vision of America.

 

[Loose]

The US has been a reactionary hellhole since it's inception,these ghouls couldn't even vote for the imperialist social democrat.Sanders was ouchea literally running on the premise of using war spoils to fund their healthcare but no, American bootlickers only have to enrich their masters.

Nope some of the right messages wromg candidate. The average American isn't worried about tearing down the DNC establishment, the establishment has little to no impact on their everyday lives. Bernie was too focused on being an arsonists instead of winning

 

[BaggerofTea]

Didn't pander enough to black voters.
Wasn't chosen by the establishment.

So everyone else gets pandered to but blacks can't?????

 

[storyteller]

This is a higher learning thread, you ain't supposed to be ignorant as fukk in here.


Ben Cohen (national co-chair)[3]
Ro Khanna (national co-chair)[3]
Nina Turner (national co-chair)[3]
Carmen Yulín Cruz (national co-chair)[3]
Faiz Shakir (campaign manager)[4]
Analilia Mejia (national political director)[5]
Briahna Joy Gray (press secretary)[6]
Chuck Rocha (senior adviser)[7]

Those are the central people in Bernie's campaign. Who are the "lily-white cacs" you speak of? There's literally one Jewish guy and otherwise zero other White people in the entire group. Seriously, wtf were you talking about?

If this thread proves anything, it's how misinformed the media left people about Bernie's campaign and what it was about. Door knocking couldn't overcome a constant messaging about the "dangers" of Bernie. What bothers me most is they tried targeting his policies and failed miserably (exit polls show that) but found their sweetspot by targeting his twitter support