Lets Discuss What went wrong with Bernie Sanders' campaign ?

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Most of the reasons here are summed up as Bernie should have treated the electorate as if they’re fukking stupid. Sounds right into Trump’s trap, to me. Either way, I feel the biggest mistake made by Bernie was not fighting hard enough for greater changes in the DNC when he had his most sway, immediately after Hillary’s loss. The delegates should be winner takes all, it makes no sense otherwise.
 

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Bernie got a platform bc the dnc allowed him too.

Bernie has been a senator for 13 years. If he actually cared about winning he’d get a good percentage of senators to endorse him. But he doesn’t, his goal is to burn everything to the ground.

He doesn’t care about actually implementing a thing
Its worse.

Vermont only has one chair in the House of Representatives.

Essentially, he's been the same representative from Vermont for 30 years.
 

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Bruh why are you pretending like Bloomberg was not stealing votes that would’ve went to Biden. And in case you forgot, Amy and Pete’s voters went to Biden. Not Bernie.
You’re right they did split votes for Biden. However, if Warren dropped out and the rest didn’t Bernie would have been the nominee by now. That’s what I’m arguing.
 

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Making proposals like ending wars, free education, free health care, etc aren't ideas that burn everything to the ground, when republican and democratic voters agree with these issues. These ideas poll high amongst voters.
It doesn't matter if they "gave him" a platform when they have shown they'll do anything to take it away if he has a shot at winning. If warren dropped out and mayor pete and amy stayed Bernie would have had a 150+ delegate lead right now even if he still lost some of the states in the last few primaries.

I mean you’re throwing out a lot of self validated hypotheticals.

If anything Bernie
 

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You’re right they did split votes for Biden. However, if Warren dropped out and the rest didn’t Bernie would have been the nominee by now. That’s what I’m arguing.
I can’t speak for other Warren supporters but I was voting for her.

If Bernie got the nom I would vote for him in the general but he’s a known quantity to me.
I wasn’t impressed with him in 2015 and wasn’t in 2019.

I don’t think there were enough Bernie to Warren voters to make up the difference. Why wouldn’t they just have been Bernie supporters from the start?
 

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Media pushed Biden. He's the safe pick, he's who the DNC wanted. Older people do nothing all day but watch the news. If the media constantly bigged him up and his policies like they do Biden even Democrats who didn't agree with him would vote for him... It is what it is though.

Ima keep it a bean. Americans are just too stupid as a whole for someone like him. :manny:
 
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By all indications, Yes

and if Super Tuesday was on Sunday instead, Bernie has a 150 delegate lead right now :wow:
I understand gambling on the voters, but for me a gamble on multiple campaigns staying in a race and doing what you hope is unrealistic.

Bad strategy from the start, but when Booker dropped out they should have realised staying power wasn't there among campaigns and changed their strategy
 

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Didn't pander enough to black voters.
Wasn't chosen by the establishment.
Bernie also refused to talk about black specific issues outside of climate control

What evidence is there for this talking point at all? Bernie talked about Black-specific issues far more than most candidates have, while the candidate that won didn't talk about Black-specific issues at all. In fact, I can't recall any candidate EVER winning due to how much he talked about Black-specific issues. So where are y'all getting this talking point from?

I've brought up a ton of ads, tweets, policies, etc. where Bernie put Black folk from and center. No one else talked about the Black-White wealth gap as much as he did, no one else talked about HBCU's and the Black student loan debt burden as much as he did, no one else talked about Black-White discrepancies in health care as much as he did, no one else talked about police brutality against Black folk as much as he did. No one else had Black folk as central to his campaign (Nina Turner and Briahna Joy Gray).

Meanwhile, Biden gave the Black community....what exactly? He pandered to literal White supremacists more than he pandered to Black folk, bragging how well he had worked across the aisle with racists. He lied about getting arrested to see Mandela, had multiple creepy moments with black kids, talked around his previous opposition to busing, dropped multiple statements where he blamed Black families for underperforming schools, swept his authorship of the crime bill (and low-key his support for ALL the other major crime bills) under the rug, promised nothing to decrease the black-white wealth gap....that's the candidate the establishment gave us. He has done NOTHING for our community and doesn't have to commit to doing anything going forward.

So what could Bernie have done to be more like Biden in that regard?
 

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lily white cacs run his campaign and some blavity negro who is out of touch with black society is his PR person. All the black ppl he reached out to like Killer Mike hold no weight in black society.

what happened to Killer Mike this go round? Didn’t see him all in the videos
 

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Media pushed Biden. He's the safe pick, he's who the DNC wanted. Older people do nothing all day but watch the news. If the media constantly bigged him up and his policies like they do Biden even Democrats who didn't agree with him would vote for him... It is what it is though.

Ima keep it a bean. Americans are just too stupid as a whole for someone like him. :manny:
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That's major cap. Bernie has just as much name recognition as Joe. Also, he's been campaigning for almost 5 years and a lot of his ideas have become apart of the national conversation. Democratic voters just don't like Bernie :manny:.
 

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lily white cacs run his campaign and some blavity negro who is out of touch with black society is his PR person. All the black ppl he reached out to like Killer Mike hold no weight in black society.
This is a higher learning thread, you ain't supposed to be ignorant as fukk in here.


Ben Cohen (national co-chair)[3]
Ro Khanna (national co-chair)[3]
Nina Turner (national co-chair)[3]
Carmen Yulín Cruz (national co-chair)[3]
Faiz Shakir (campaign manager)[4]
Analilia Mejia (national political director)[5]
Briahna Joy Gray (press secretary)[6]
Chuck Rocha (senior adviser)[7]

Those are the central people in Bernie's campaign. Who are the "lily-white cacs" you speak of? There's literally one Jewish guy and otherwise zero other White people in the entire group. Seriously, wtf were you talking about?
 
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