Lets discuss the potential of what is the Democratic Republic of Congo

[Bawon Samedi]

I laugh at you guys seeing potential in that hellhole called Congo. That's not a real country and it will never succeed until it is broken up. In fact i can say that about many of the countries in Africa.

China during the cold war was a "hell-hole" that had a great famine that some claim killed 15 to 30 million people. Now China today is a regional power. Angola was a "hell-hole" with a brutal 23 year civil war that devastated the economy, now it has one of the largest economies in Africa.

Most African countries need to break up? South Sudan did that and now look at it. A "Balkanization" is not always the right idea, most of the times the country becomes weaker, because one region has the most resources.

Now GTFO my thread.

 

[MajorVitaman]

It's the truth. Take a look of an ethnicity map of it and you will see why there is so much violence. Balkanization is the only way to stop the violence.

Shut your dumb ass up

 

[Thabo]

Surely there is a better way of doing so breh? Wading in there like demonic ass missionaries and cutting up borders like keys doesn't sound like a very viable or popular option

There is no other way. Humans are tribalistic. All this kumbayah shyt doesn't work in real life.

 

[Thabo]

China during the cold war was a "hell-hole" that had a great famine that some claim killed 15 to 30 million people. Now China today is a regional power. Angola was a "hell-hole" with a brutal 23 year civil war that devastated the economy, now it has one of the largest economies in Africa.

Most African countries need to break up? South Sudan did that and now look at it. A "Balkanization" is not always the right idea, most of the times the country becomes weaker, because one region has the most resources.

Now GTFO my thread.

First of all China is 90 percent ethnic Han dumbass so there is a clear dominant tribe. South Sudan is in far better condition today than it ever was under muslim scumbags, ever heard about the genocide that killed 2 million South Sudanese by the Northern aggressors? It's still a young country getting to its feet. Learn some history. Congo will break up eventually once the UN troops leave.

 

[Red Shield]

It is probably unavoidable.. but once ww3 pops off and the usa get's waxed..

you are going to have a period of serious global conflict. And I expect there to be a whole lotta ethnic cleansing in Africa. Having 100s of nations in Africa ain't gonna work...



Lotta nations that exist right now around the world, won't be here in 2050

 

[Bawon Samedi]

First of all China is 90 percent ethnic Han dumbass so there is a clear dominant tribe.

Who even says ethnic tensions is the root of Congos problems? I've researching about Congos brutal history has been an interest of mines and never has it come to be that the ROOT of Congos problems was ethnic tension. It seems to have always been based on resources going back to when King Leopard ruled the country and enslaved the people. Things got even worse under Mubutu and then the first Congo war to GET RID of him. Nothing hints ethnic conflicts unless we count those recent migrating Hutus causing hell in the Eastern region. But again its all based on the minerals.

And dumbass you're JUST NOW mentioning ethnics!

South Sudan is in far better condition today than it ever was under muslim scumbags, ever heard about the genocide that killed 2 million South Sudanese by the Northern aggressors? It's still a young country getting to its feet. Learn some history. Congo will break up eventually once the UN troops leave.

Why don't you learn some history.
South Sudan marks two years of ruinous war
South Sudan marks two years of ruinous war

How is that getting on its feet???

And no shyt I know about South Sudan war against North Sudan(stop insulting intelligence), but fact remains is that South Sudan even splitting from the North is STILL having conflicts AND more ethnic based tensions compared to the DRC. I know that hurts your theory of African countries needing to split out.

 

[Thabo]

Who even says ethnic tensions is the root of Congos problems? I've researching about Congos brutal history has been an interest of mines and never has it come to be that the ROOT of Congos problems was ethnic tension. It seems to have always been based on resources going back to when King Leopard ruled the country and enslaved the people. Things got even worse under Mubutu and then the first Congo war to GET RID of him. Nothing hints ethnic conflicts unless we count those recent migrating Hutus causing hell in the Eastern region. But again its all based on the minerals.

And dumbass you're JUST NOW mentioning ethnics!


Why don't you learn some history.
South Sudan marks two years of ruinous war
South Sudan marks two years of ruinous war

How is that getting on its feet???

And no shyt I know about South Sudan war against North Sudan(stop insulting intelligence), but fact remains is that South Sudan even splitting from the North is STILL having conflicts AND more ethnic based tensions compared to the DRC. I know that hurts your theory of African countries needing to split out.

You just heard me say it didn't you? There is no unity at all and that goes back to King Leopold timeline. It's not a real country and is just a colonial construct. Nobody runs anything there. Kabinda has no real power outside the towns. The Rwandans removed Mobutu not the indigenous people, so it was not a uprising. Nothing hurts my theory the countries need to split up. South Sudan may need to be split again. Only homogenous countries are successful and peaceful.

 

[newworldafro]

I've posted this before. Supposed to be a mega development on the Congo River next to Kinshasa.

 

[Bawon Samedi]

You just heard me say it didn't you? There is no unity at all and that goes back to King Leopold timeline. It's not a real country and is just a colonial construct. Nobody runs anything there. Kabinda has no real power outside the towns. The Rwandans removed Mobutu not the indigenous people, so it was not a uprising. Nothing hurts my theory the countries need to split up. South Sudan may need to be split again. Only homogenous countries are successful and peaceful.

I don't know why I didn't see this post but USA, UK, India, Brazil, South Africa and even Russia destroys your silly theory of all countries needing to be homogeneous.

Meanwhile Somalia is the most homogeneous country in Africa while being the most destructive.

African countries splitting up more isn't going to do anything but cause more wars.

 

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

You just heard me say it didn't you? There is no unity at all and that goes back to King Leopold timeline. It's not a real country and is just a colonial construct. Nobody runs anything there. Kabinda has no real power outside the towns. The Rwandans removed Mobutu not the indigenous people, so it was not a uprising. Nothing hurts my theory the countries need to split up. South Sudan may need to be split again. Only homogenous countries are successful and peaceful.

Somali is almost entirely inhabited by Somali speakers.

 

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

Thoughts on Kabila's electoral postponement until 2018?

 

[Bawon Samedi]

Thoughts on Kabila's electoral postponement until 2018?

I have MANY thoughts. The Congolese people NEED to have a Burkina Faso situation and fast. I hope the sanctions the EU do work(I'm with them on this). The DRC needs better leaders. Enough is enough.

Though I will admit Kabila is still building on joining the EAC with the help of Tanzania.

 

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

I have MANY thoughts. The Congolese people NEED to have a Burkina Faso situation and fast. I hope the sanctions the EU do work(I'm with them on this). The DRC needs better leaders. Enough is enough.

Though I will admit Kabila is still building on joining the EAC with the help of Tanzania.

What does the West think of Kabila? Particularly, France?

What do Congo's neighbours think of Kabila? I already know that Kagame would like him gone. Same with Museveni.

 

[Bawon Samedi]

What does the West think of Kabila? Particularly, France?

What do Congo's neighbours think of Kabila? I already know that Kagame would like him gone. Same with Museveni.

You actually raise good points. I did post an article in this thread stating that the West not only began seeing him as an enemy but also blocked a very big Chinese project in the DRC that was more than 50-60 billion.

You're definitely right about Kagame too. But my thing is the DRC and Africa as a whole does not need anymore dictators. Can you explain the purpose of Kabila holding onto more power? Anyways Kabila does have a good relationship with EAC member Tanzania which is a growing economic player in the region.

 

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

You actually raise good points. I did post an article in this thread stating that the West not only began seeing him as an enemy but also blocked a very big Chinese project in the DRC that was more than 50-60 billion.

You're definitely right about Kagame too. But my thing is the DRC and Africa as a whole does not need anymore dictators. Can you explain the purpose of Kabila holding onto more power? Anyways Kabila does have a good relationship with EAC member Tanzania which is a growing economic player in the region.

Kabila and his associates will grow rich if he stays in power. Why give up power now? That rationale is entirely why he wants to stay in power. After all, Mobutu was allowed to loot the Congo. Why not he?

Tanzania usually does the right thing in Central Africa (they used to oppose Rwandan/Ugandan power in the region). With Magufuli, I don't know if he'll stick to historically Tanzanian interests if the Congo descends into civil war again and Rwanda and Uganda intervene once again to seize the East.