Name one year in Hogan's run where he was bigger than the Rock in 2000.
When was pro wrestling EVER seen on that level in the United States?
Let's Be Honest, Hulk Hogan is/was a WAYYYYYYYYY bigger star than Steve Austin
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Name one year in Hogan's run where he was bigger than the Rock in 2000.
When was pro wrestling EVER seen on that level in the United States?
Yeah but he wouldn't have been in 2000, would he? Hogan had been gone for almost a decade and it took an anti-Rock crowd of Toronto for any of that to be possible. And he wasn't that popular because he didn't draw BIG MONEY without the Rock afterwards..remember? Rock brought up Hogan's name at the Hall of Fame in 2008 and they booed. Nevertheless, I'm talking about peaks since that's your topic. Now...when was Hogan's run ever on the same level as how the Rock was in 2000? You'll never see anyone that big in pro wrestling at any point ever in our country again.
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You're talking about anti rock venues and the rock not being as popular because it was 2 years past your untouchable year of 2000. Hogan was decades past his day and was still wildly more popular.
It would have been the same no matter the year.
They could have held that shyt in his moms crib in Miami and the reaction would have been the same.
You can't talk about numbers because the whole business got bigger. There wasn't 2 weekly shows and monthly ppvs in those days. Even with less exposure, Hogan was still a household name and the first person people thought of when wrestling was mentioned.
It would have been the same no matter the year.
They could have held that shyt in his moms crib in Miami and the reaction would have been the same.
You can't talk about numbers because the whole business got bigger. There wasn't 2 weekly shows and monthly ppvs in those days. Even with less exposure, Hogan was still a household name and the first person people thought of when wrestling was mentioned.
You're on crack, dude. In 1995, where was all of that popularity. Or 1994...or 1993....or 1992. You know, when they booed him for Sid "Justice" at the Royal Rumble. They booed Austin in 1999 and 2000 over the Rock and you talking fukking insane like Hulk Hogan in 2000 was gonna get some magical Toronto pop out of the blue that year? LOL. The Rock was the be and end all of pro wrestling in 2000. ECW wasn't shyt. Hogan's reactions in 2000 were decent but nowhere near what the Rock was generating weekly on just promos alone. Smarten up. I shouldn't have tell you this shyt. It's on youtube every single day.
The Rock match is why Hogan was able to resurge to what he is today...he basically gave that old man a shot in the arm after he was damn near forgotten for TWO WHOLE years after some Vince Russo nonsense on PPV. The Rock can get booed, cheered, or whatever but he drew his entire damn career and doesn't know anything about a down period. He's been too great to know anything about that.
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LOL @ dudes bringing up merch sales, amount of shows worked, crowd reactions, etc......
This isn't about those things. This isn't about who had better matches, who had better promos, or any other thing that's only barely relevant to how big of a star someone is to the general public.
Thread title says Hogan's a bigger star than Austin, and it's correct. We're talking about who's the biggest star worldwide.....in that case, Hogan's name is more recognizable than Austin. Hogan's face is more recognizable worldwide than Austin. You ask any random person out of the blue to quickly name a pro wrestler; you'll hear Hogan's name more than anyone else because he's the first name that comes to mind for a lot of people.
Meanwhile, you have a chick on Hollywood Squares who thought Steve Austin's nickname was 'The Crusher'
You can narrow down the crowd all you want to get different results - asking younger people only, asking actual wrestling fans only, etc. - but when you're talking about EVERYONE who's at least barely familiar with pro wrestling, Hogan wins out.
This isn't about those things. This isn't about who had better matches, who had better promos, or any other thing that's only barely relevant to how big of a star someone is to the general public.
Thread title says Hogan's a bigger star than Austin, and it's correct. We're talking about who's the biggest star worldwide.....in that case, Hogan's name is more recognizable than Austin. Hogan's face is more recognizable worldwide than Austin. You ask any random person out of the blue to quickly name a pro wrestler; you'll hear Hogan's name more than anyone else because he's the first name that comes to mind for a lot of people.
Meanwhile, you have a chick on Hollywood Squares who thought Steve Austin's nickname was 'The Crusher'
You can narrow down the crowd all you want to get different results - asking younger people only, asking actual wrestling fans only, etc. - but when you're talking about EVERYONE who's at least barely familiar with pro wrestling, Hogan wins out.
You're the one who's on crack if you think Hogan needed " a shot in the arm " from anyone.
You talk about him getting booed in 92 then ask where his popularity was.Smarten up.
94 he took a break then returned to Japan.
By 95 he had WCW on the come up and would eventually lead that second rate company to kick the shyt out of the WWF until Russo came in 99-00 and completely ruined that company.
Hogan being away from the game here and there doesn't take away from his popularity.
I shouldn't have to tell you any of this shyt, it's available on the internet everyday.
You keep mentioning 2000, as if that one year out of an extra short career, trumps Hogans decades of popularity.
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If Vince and Hogan never teamed up, wrestling would've died by the mid 90s. LOL @ trusting Watts, Gagne, or any other knucklehead to go national. The business would've collapsed on itself with those incompetent dudes.
94? He took a break..no..you're forgetting key events. In 1993, he wrestled his last match against Yokozuna at King of the Ring and lost clean if I'm not mistaken. WCW signed him the next year with the big parade and Shaq showing up..all of that shyt. First match was against Flair at Bash at the Beach 94...never forget it because I had grandmother order it while I was down south on vacation.
He had WCW on the come up in 1995? Since when? That's a revised historical falsehood. WCW was still looking for something to get attention despite LIVE Nitros and Lex Luger deflections. Everything changed when Hall worked the angle that he came from the WWF and was invading WCW...ever since the fans bought into that, things changed forever. Hogan being the guy who turned at the hyped up PPV is what flipped it all upside down and made huge money.
And I could care less what you think you need to tell anyone..you're a child. You were fishing for something you didn't even have concrete facts on and had to be corrected yet again. Nothing to be proud of.
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I like the Rock and i aint buyin this breh. The only time Austin got booed in favor of the Rock is when Austin went heel mid Mania. Rock was at his highest level at this point and was pushed towards the world title while Austin
pursued HHH for running him down AT SS they year before. Thus, Rock was higher on the card having carried the ball for Austin out of necessity. Not to diminish a damn good run but lets not get cloudy here.
Rock didnt draw until he cut his hair and was mid way in his Nation run. Not his entire career.
That being said i agree with the rest of it.
Now back to the thread topic. Hogan is the most recognizable star of all time. He tried to transcend wrestling and did on some levels. Austin generated more talk about his current activites: Beer truck, zambone, Pushing Tyson, assaulting his boss, cursing on live tv etc. Hogan MADE the game but Austin changed it. The creater will always get more credit than the upstart and that is a fact of life. However while Hogan was a media figure just from being Hogan. Austin created buzz by being different. Hogan coasts on being the first. Workrate be damned in my mind Austin is the bigger star due to shaking up the landscape and making me excited to watch. Hogan only managed that during WM 7. This is opinion when you really get down to it.