Lets be honest here Zimmerman is gonna get off

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Bottom line is this, if Zimmerman were black and Treyvon white Zimmerman would already be a year into his life sentence without the possibility of parole ....

The only reason Zimmerman isnt walking around a free man is because of the public outcry and publicity.....

The law is basically telling you that a white persons life is more valuable than that of a black persons and it seems that a lot of idiots seem to agree with this...


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Trayvon Martin was 17 years old. Still a minor. He doesn't have the legal capacity to understand nor interpret laws.

He was also frightened. His response was to flee the situation. He was watched, followed, then stalked, then dead.

George Zimmerman is an adult armed with a gun, confronting a minor. He should have had the better judgement in this situation.
you're still being idealistic about this.

what it all boils down to is was there a fight? was Zimmerman getting pounded by Trayvon? was his life threatened to the point that he used self defense to defend himself and ended up killing the kid?

case really ain't about who should have been responsible or who should have been where doing what. i don't disagree with you or your points but i'm saying none of those things are the legal questions of this case.

now if it can be proven Zimmerman attacked Trayvon first and Trayvon just defended himself then that ain't self defense. that's him as the aggressor and he got more than he bargained for.
 

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you're still being idealistic about this.

what it all boils down to is was there a fight? was Zimmerman getting pounded by Trayvon? was his life threatened to the point that he used self defense to defend himself and ended up killing the kid?

case really ain't about who should have been responsible or who should have been where doing what. i don't disagree with you or your points but i'm saying none of those things are the legal questions of this case.

now if it can be proven Zimmerman attacked Trayvon first and Trayvon just defended himself then that ain't self defense. that's him as the aggressor and he got more than he bargained for.

Maybe it was self inflicted. Maybe he got beat up earlier that day by a different black kid and decided to take it out on Trayvon. :yeshrug:

The point is no one witnessed Trayvon beating and inflicting the minimal damage GZ had in the pictures. Witnesses only know there was a struggle between two individuals, and one was shot and killed. I havent heard or read a single account that a witness SAW Trayvon actually hitting GZ.

According to the autopsy report, Trayvon didn't have the markings on his hands that suggested that he had been in a fight, nor did he have any of GZ's DNA on him.

Also, GZ claims that Trayvon was mounted on top of him bashing his head into the cement and covering his mouth, reaching for his gun, all while saying "You 'gon die muthafukka" or some shyt. If that story is true then why was the blood from the cuts on the back of his head flowing towards his face?

Trayvon's age will infact be a huuuuge issue. That's why the media was putting out the pictures of a pre teen Trayvon. He was still a kid.

Try picking up and dating a 17 year old girl publicly and see how well that goes. :skip:
 

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Maybe it was self inflicted.
possible but that has to be proven. maybe you see it but i don't see enough evidence for them to say it most definitely wasn't self defense.

really though if you get outta your car and confront someone you don't know i wouldn't call the resulting confrontation self defense anyway. how can one defend them-self from a situation they started?
 

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you're still being idealistic about this.

what it all boils down to is was there a fight? was Zimmerman getting pounded by Trayvon? was his life threatened to the point that he used self defense to defend himself and ended up killing the kid?

case really ain't about who should have been responsible or who should have been where doing what. i don't disagree with you or your points but i'm saying none of those things are the legal questions of this case.

now if it can be proven Zimmerman attacked Trayvon first and Trayvon just defended himself then that ain't self defense. that's him as the aggressor and he got more than he bargained for.


Daily Kos: Officer's Cellphone Pics Show Zimmerman May NOT Have Been Punched the Night he Killed Trayvon

http://sandrarose.com/2013/06/audio-expert-trayvon-martin-cried-im-begging-you-on-911-tape/
 

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Winb is right, Zimmerman is gonna get off, on some "revenge for OJ Simpson and Obama's re-election" shyt. I hate that it's gonna be like that, but realistically, you can be 99% sure that's what's gonna happen.

And no, I doubt there will be large-scale riots. Some dumb nyggas might attack some random white people and get themselves thrown in jail, but I don't see anything huge going down.
 

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really though if you get outta your car and confront someone you don't know i wouldn't call the resulting confrontation self defense anyway. how can one defend them-self from a situation they started?


Unless Zimmerman touched him first, threatened to harm him first, got in his face in a threatening manner first, or pulled out a weapon first...................then there was no reason to hit/fight Zimmerman.

All of those are reasonable enough to hit someone.................whether it's the first hit or not.

But if Zimmerman simply followed him, got out of the car, got his attention and asked him what he was doing there, then that's certainly no reason to start a fight with him. An argument, maybe, but still not a fight. If that was the scenario, and Trayvon got heated enough during the argument to hit him first, and then he did a good-enough job in kicking his ass afterwards, then I'd have to side with Zimmerman pulling out that gun :manny:
 

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How can he not walk? Regardless of him getting out of the car he was under attack. He obviously got stomped out by somebody and he claims it was Trayvon and there is evidence of his injuries. If he was getting his head bashed in I'm pretty sure Florida's stand your ground says he can defend his life with deadly force.

So yeah he did get out of the car and confront dude but last I knew other than the shot Trayvon's body showed minimal signs of the battle while Zimmerman had a bloody nose and injuries on the back of his head.

The so blatantly obvious wrongness of the case is exactly why everyone should keep their eyes on this case. It's 2013 and you want to tell me this :pacspit: is going to walk? Dis-fukking-scusting. This cannot be the life I live behind this computer screen. How do I take anything else seriously in life?

The same grounds Zimmerman case rests on, is EXACTLY what Trayvon died taking the right of. Trayvon stood his ground, he protected himself from an assailant unknown to him, who WE know as a racist. An animal who literally stalks and preys on who he thinks is doing wrong based on race. Zimmerman should be executed.

If there is any Justice by definition of the word, the law could not, should not protect him. By the grace of God, this happened in a state where the death penalty Is active for exactly this type of case, again the SAME Rule of "Stand Your Ground" on which Zimmerman makes his defence.

If Trayvon were to kill Zimmerman after GZ was told NOT to leave his car by 911, Trayvon would have been in the right and SHOULD be hailed as a hero.

This is the definition of Stand Your Ground. The Law Should be renamed after Trayvon Martin. To do anything less would discredit his memory and make a mockery of what we accept as the Law, what we consider Justice and another tear in the flag that is the principles of America.

This incident is a textbook case of a nikka Moment as told by The Book of Boondocks. George Zimmerman is a wretched real life example of the racism in America. We the People cannot, should not accept this reality. We the People should collect his fukking head.
 

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Unless Zimmerman touched him first, threatened to harm him first, got in his face in a threatening manner first, or pulled out a weapon first...................then there was no reason to hit/fight Zimmerman.

All of those are reasonable enough to hit someone.................whether it's the first hit or not.

But if Zimmerman simply followed him, got out of the car, got his attention and asked him what he was doing there, then that's certainly no reason to start a fight with him. An argument, maybe, but still not a fight. If that was the scenario, and Trayvon got heated enough during the argument to hit him first, and then he did a good-enough job in kicking his ass afterwards, then I'd have to side with Zimmerman pulling out that gun :manny:

No.

You are starting on the wrong side of the fence.

Imagine a Sunday. Any Sunday. You need a snack. You walk to the convenience store. You buy your Scooba Snax. You are walking home. Someone leaves their vehicle and approaches you.

Already much older and physically larger than you this person begins to aggravatedly question you. Who are you? Where are you from? Where are you from? What are you doing? Where are you going? This happens all the time for people like you. This is your turn. He hasnt identified himself as police so you owe him no answers. For all you know this is a mugging. Unbeknownst to you this person is armed.

Your are feeling intimidated but you know you must and will defend yourself because the law is on your side to do so when you are approached in a situation much like this.

From here things begin to start to escalate, you don't know how it starts but you get into it. He is bigger than you but you want to live. Your life is now in danger. You fight. You scream for help. One of your neighbors must hear you. You were just going to the store for skittles and iced tea. Now your fighting for your life when the stranger is standing over you, draws his pistol and fires into your chest.

He will later claim self defense after he was the one who approached you. After he was told to not engage you by the government official, 911.

In your perspective you were under lawful action to defend yourself. In the assailants perspective he was told by Law Enforcement not to engage you. From law enforcement perspective Citizen A was told specifically not to engage Citizen B. Citizen A engages Citizen B and kills Citizen B. Citizen B was lawfully due to defend himself. Citizen A is a murderer.
 

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Winb is right, Zimmerman is gonna get off, on some "revenge for OJ Simpson and Obama's re-election" shyt. I hate that it's gonna be like that, but realistically, you can be 99% sure that's what's gonna happen.

And no, I doubt there will be large-scale riots. Some dumb nyggas might attack some random white people and get themselves thrown in jail, but I don't see anything huge going down.

Sad but true. It summons my Susano'o.
 

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Damn that case is still going? I figured he was already in jail



His life is gonna be shyt either way tho :clap:

Thats the point, I guarantee the only reason the case is still going, is so that the public isn't so outraged about it when they finally let him free. They don't want to cause riots or anything like that. So they are letting the case 'zimmer' :obama: down a little bit to the point that a lot of the public simply forget about it.
 
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