Let us relive this classic: Mike Tyson vs Razor Ruddock 1

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Cus died when Mike was entering his prime. So are you saying he was declining as he was entering his prime lol. A jab and a heart destroys mike Tyson. Just one you can beat him. Just a jab see Lennox we all know hec was scary as hell. Just heart see Holyfield. Both he gets destroyed. Ali Foreman Norton Holmes etc all destroy Tyson. Can he land a punch and win of course not taking that away its boxing. But more then likely he loses to them all.
declining in terms of skillset not natural or physical traits, silly.
The guy was surely getting lazy and fukking around when he was getting paid good.
Look at mike tyson vs frank bruno 1..you telling me that was mike during that CUS period?
 

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Mike Tyson was overrated and would of been just another guy in the 60s and definitely the 70s the golden era of heavyweights. Boxing is just not how hard you hit. You have to be mentally tough. Mike was not mentally tough. He was a bully and when that didnt work he folded up like a lawn chair.
Why do you guys keep typing this nonsense as if the Tyson you all saw in the mid-to-late 1990s was the same as the Tyson in the 1980s?
 

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declining in terms of skillset not natural or physical traits, silly.
The guy was surely getting lazy and fukking around when he was getting paid good.
Look at mike tyson vs frank bruno 1..you telling me that was mike during that CUS period?


What difference do it make. Who is Frank Bruno??? That's sarcasm of course. But im serious who the fukk is Frank Bruno in the realm of great heavyweights?? Frank bruno smh lol. Mike beat no other great fighters. No one. He lucky he didnt catch Holmes a few years younger the hype machine would of been dead early. Larry's jab and right hand would of destroyed him just like Busters did.
 

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Why do you guys keep typing this nonsense as if the Tyson you all saw in the mid-to-late 1990s was the same as the Tyson in the 1980s?

Yall hyping a Tyson who destroyed bums name one of them that you considered good. No one fought him. They got paid. His mystique won them fights. Once fighters learned if you just stand up to to him it was over. Post a Mike Tyson KO highlight from from the 80s i bet yall cant name the majority of them guys.
 

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Yall hyping a Tyson who destroyed bums name one of them that you considered good. No one fought him. They got paid. His mystique won them fights. Once fighters learned if you just stand up to to him it was over. Post a Mike Tyson KO highlight from from the 80s i bet yall cant name the majority of them guys.
You trashing Tyson as if he didn't beat everyone there was to beat in the 1980s.

:gucci:

Who should have have fought in 1988?
Taken a fukkin time machine to 1967 to fight Cleveland Williams?

:gucci:
 

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You trashing Tyson as if he didn't beat everyone there was to beat in the 1980s.

:gucci:

Who should have have fought in 1988?
Taken a fukkin time machine to 1967 to fight Cleveland Williams?

:gucci:
No one is trashing Tyson, but the fact is he never fought ATG fighters in their prime and won. He was dominated when he fought them.
Its no one's fault Mike stopped caring about being great, he is the reason he can never be held as a ATG
 

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No one is trashing Tyson, but the fact is he never fought ATG fighters in their prime and won. He was dominated when he fought them.
Its no one's fault Mike stopped caring about being great, he is the reason he can never be held as a ATG
If you can point to any other boxer with as complicated and tragic a life as Mike Tyson outside the ring, then I'll be glad to allow you to compare his career trajectory to the typical "ATG" fighter.
 

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You trashing Tyson as if he didn't beat everyone there was to beat in the 1980s.

:gucci:

Who should have have fought in 1988?
Taken a fukkin time machine to 1967 to fight Cleveland Williams?

:gucci:

Prime example is Money Mayweather oh what a treat if he could of fought earlier. Fought in the 80 and 90s oh what great fights we could of had. But guess what he didnt he fought who was there all the way up until now..guess what else he somehow managed to do?? NOT LOSE
 

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He didn't have a decade of dominance, you don't know what you are talking about.
HE had 4 years of dominance in which the only ATG he fought was a out of prime and near shot Holmes. That is it.
You will not be evaluated and placed with the boxing HW greats if you don't have any ATGs on the resume, especially no wins, on top of that he couldn't even say he had a long reign, 4 year span, his shined brightly and burned out quickly.

The fact that you want to talk about popularity and not quality of wins tells me all I need to know.

So 85-95 with only 1 L To Buster Douglas is not a decade worth of dominance to you? Even with the Buster Douglas Loss, his mom had just died...he was on a mission...and the corner took that fight lightly. Spinks & Holmes (legend) were names, so they have to be counted, regardless of where they were in their careers. Because if that's the case, Floyd vs Oscar, Shane, Zab, Gotti were all shells of their former selves when they fought Floyd. I said nothing about popularity. All I said was that if they were "no ones" when he fought them, he made sure to dismantle them quickly instead of having a 5-7 round bout with a no one. His speed & power was practically unmatched.

DO I think he would've beat Lennox in prime? Nope...Lennox was too long and would in no way let Tyson as close as Tyson wanted to be to do serious damage. Evander in prime like it was supposed to happen, I've always been 50-50 with that. When they finally did fight, Mike was nowhere near as quick as he used to be, he would just stand and swing...but in the early rounds, every blow from Mike was sending Evander back a couple of feet. However, Evander had poise, plus those tactics.
 

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If you can point to any other boxer with as complicated and tragic a life as Mike Tyson outside the ring, then I'll be glad to allow you to compare his career trajectory to the typical "ATG" fighter.
Andre Ward's life is in many way more tragic than Mike Tyson's and look at him 32 and a ATG
 

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If you can point to any other boxer with as complicated and tragic a life as Mike Tyson outside the ring, then I'll be glad to allow you to compare his career trajectory to the typical "ATG" fighter.

Lol i will choose one Ali somehow managed to be great again after being blackballed from boxing.. there a tons of boxers who didnt have a great childhood. Complicated and tragic smh.
 

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Prime example is Money Mayweather oh what a treat if he could of fought earlier. Fought in the 80 and 90s oh what great fights we could of had. But guess what he didnt he fought who was there all the way up until now..guess what else he somehow managed to do?? NOT LOSE
Everyone acknowledges Floyd as one of the best lightweights ever.

Nobody says Tyson is on Ali or Holmes' level.

Yet I made this thread to relive a great entertaining fight between hard punchers and the main thing you fukkers do is bytch about how great Tyson WASN'T.

The hate is real.
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So 85-95 with only 1 L To Buster Douglas is not a decade worth of dominance to you? Even with the Buster Douglas Loss, his mom had just died...he was on a mission...and the corner took that fight lightly. Spinks & Holmes (legend) were names, so they have to be counted, regardless of where they were in their careers. Because if that's the case, Floyd vs Oscar, Shane, Zab, Gotti were all shells of their former selves when they fought Floyd. I said nothing about popularity. All I said was that if they were "no ones" when he fought them, he made sure to dismantle them quickly instead of having a 5-7 round bout with a no one. His speed & power was practically unmatched.

DO I think he would've beat Lennox in prime? Nope...Lennox was too long and would in no way let Tyson as close as Tyson wanted to be to do serious damage. Evander in prime like it was supposed to happen, I've always been 50-50 with that. When they finally did fight, Mike was nowhere near as quick as he used to be, he would just stand and swing...but in the early rounds, every blow from Mike was sending Evander back a couple of feet. However, Evander had poise, plus those tactics.

At least they were former champions.
 
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