Bad stoppage by Richard Steele. Shoulda let Ruddock hit the canvas and get an 8 count.
He still woulda got knocked out tho.
He still woulda got knocked out tho.
Let us relive this classic: Mike Tyson vs Razor Ruddock 1
- Thread starter Remote
- Start date
If he hit those last two...he probably be in a coma
No. Foreman can take alot but Tyson was too fast and would of kept knocking Foreman down. Foreman the original Tyson but he don't have the speed to slug it out str8 up.
Antdrewjosh
All Star
Mike Tyson was overrated and would of been just another guy in the 60s and definitely the 70s the golden era of heavyweights. Boxing is just not how hard you hit. You have to be mentally tough. Mike was not mentally tough. He was a bully and when that didnt work he folded up like a lawn chair.
very illogical.
Mike tyson being a product of the 50's or 60's could have been a whole different machine?
Antdrewjosh
All Star
Based off what your personality is your personality. There were plenty of hard hitters in the 70s too. Mike was good but not great. He never beat another great heavyweight in his prime. And i dont want to hear about him being over the hill. Every aging great player or fighter is capable of a great performance..its called rising to the occasion. Mike never did that.
Last edited:
David_TheMan
Veteran
Cus left before he became a champ in 86. So why do people keep saying this? Cus had mike prepared for him not being there, which is why Rooney and co were the ones that were in the corner with him during fights.
Cus dying isn't what caused mike tyson to degrade, mike is the reason he fell off, just like Buster was the reason Buster never did shyt after the upset, same reason Bowe was the reason he fell off.
Foreman was a product of Sonny Liston style, that is a style tailormade to eat up the Cus style, you know that right? Its why Cus always told Tyson to never fight George Foreman, and why when Foreman camp offered Mike a fight, Mike's camp refused. Foreman's chin was too strong, jab too stiff, power too much for a swarming style of Cus's to be effective. mike would have been beaten worse than he was by Lennox fukking with Foreman, even old foreman.
Im saying from my observation when Cus left, Mike was slowly losing that skillset , this was significant after he won the title ..
the bobbing and weaving was getting less used to say the least..gradually assessing mike.
David_TheMan
Veteran
You can't really say that, his competition was also slowly increasing as well. So what he did against bums isn't going to work and as you get older you realize it isn't necessary to be overly theatric with the movement.
Its a damn shame to me how everyone praises Mike as Cus's greatest student, and forgets the far more successful Floyd Patterson, who showed you what that style was capable against ATGs even when he was past his best.
i dont know any fighter off top that swarmed foreman and didnt pay for it and/or take a L
Antdrewjosh
All Star
Cus died when Mike was entering his prime. So are you saying he was declining as he was entering his prime lol. A jab and a heart destroys mike Tyson. Just one you can beat him. Just a jab see Lennox we all know hec was scary as hell. Just heart see Holyfield. Both he gets destroyed. Ali Foreman Norton Holmes etc all destroy Tyson. Can he land a punch and win of course not taking that away its boxing. But more then likely he loses to them all.
realer than real deal holyfield...+rep..he actually became a better fighter after his reigns..he also should have been the first 3 time heavyweight champion too
Antdrewjosh
All Star
Yep and all tall fighters with a jab tore Cus fighters a new one
Antdrewjosh
All Star
Norton gave boxers trouble...he folded against damn near every puncher he faced
More mentally tough then Tyson and could jab..edge Norton for me