Let us relive this classic: Mike Tyson vs Razor Ruddock 1

[NormanConnors]

This was Tyson when he was no longer training hard either and after the Buster Douglas fight.

Ever since dude fired Kevin Rooney he was never quite the same.

I don't know how Mike Tyson was "going to lose" this fight when he knocked Razor Ruddock out. Dude was out on his feet standing up and waiting to be finished. Same thing with Ward and Kovalev. The ref letting either fight continue would've made them take unnecessary shots.

One of the fighters you don't want to take unnecessary shots from is Tyson.

Also, Mike Tyson is an all-time great, that's why people know who Mike Tyson is. That's reality.

Love the discussion from reddit about this:






Also the discussion came from this article:
A Brutally Honest Look at Mike Tyson versus Muhammad Ali

 

[threattonature]

So 85-95 with only 1 L To Buster Douglas is not a decade worth of dominance to you? Even with the Buster Douglas Loss, his mom had just died...he was on a mission...and the corner took that fight lightly. Spinks & Holmes (legend) were names, so they have to be counted, regardless of where they were in their careers. Because if that's the case, Floyd vs Oscar, Shane, Zab, Gotti were all shells of their former selves when they fought Floyd. I said nothing about popularity. All I said was that if they were "no ones" when he fought them, he made sure to dismantle them quickly instead of having a 5-7 round bout with a no one. His speed & power was practically unmatched.

DO I think he would've beat Lennox in prime? Nope...Lennox was too long and would in no way let Tyson as close as Tyson wanted to be to do serious damage. Evander in prime like it was supposed to happen, I've always been 50-50 with that. When they finally did fight, Mike was nowhere near as quick as he used to be, he would just stand and swing...but in the early rounds, every blow from Mike was sending Evander back a couple of feet. However, Evander had poise, plus those tactics.

I wonder how Lennox/Tyson would've played out in the early 90s pre-Steward when he was more willing to let his hands go and brawl.

Also why the hell are people arguing with trolls?

 

[Antdrewjosh]

What fights though did Mike's mental toughness cost him

You can't say Buster cause if we being 100, Buster would've beat anybody that night considering his circumstances

I love Smokin Joe but I can easily see Mike beating him or knocking him out. I think his style gets him did like Big George did him in Kingston

Um both Holyfield fights unless of course its ok to bite people ears off. Why not the buster Fight?? You cant get your ass off the canvas??? That's mental toughness in a nutshell. You arent knocked out. Get up. The ref may say that's it. But thats different. Get up.

Also im not comparing Joe vs Tyson. I said you cant use Joe an example of how Tyson can beat Ali

 

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BTW, Tyson actually knocked Douglas out in the 8th round but everybody chooses to ignore that.

 

[Antdrewjosh]

It's always something with you in this thread.



Next you're gonna say Duran isn't an ATG because of his mental toughness the 2nd time vs Leonard

Why would I compare Tyson vs Duran. DURAN went on to still do great things after that fight. What did Tyson do after being exposed???

 

[Antdrewjosh]

BTW, Tyson actually knocked Douglas out in the 8th round but everybody chooses to ignore that.

No one ignores it, it happened. But there goes that mental toughness part again. Overcome adversity. Mike didnt have it.

 

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No one ignores it, it happened. But there goes that mental toughnesspart

WTF you think boxing is?
Mufukkas playing patty cake?

If you knock a motherfukker out and and they get a second chance that shyt don't mean nothing now?
You just supposed to absorb that shyt like nothing and still win the fight because "mental toughness"?

Are you retarded?

 

[Bboystyle]

There are legitimately people who think he is a top 4-5 heavyweight EVER. THAT'S how people can think he's overrated.

Nobody can say he's "trash" though.

U can't sit here and tell me he aint top 5

 

[patscorpio]

Why not the buster Fight?? You cant get your ass off the canvas??? That's mental toughness in a nutshell. You arent knocked out. Get up. The ref may say that's it. But thats different. Get up.

yeah i think you are trolling at this point..buster hit him with a combination that would have taken out any heavyweight..he didn't lie there on the canvas..he attempted to get off the canvas..dude even found his mouthpiece that was knocked out from buster's punches and attempted to put it back in..he got to his feet..just not by 10..and even then tyson was wobbling badly with an eye closed..no decent ref will let you continue like that

 

[Antdrewjosh]

WTF you think boxing is?
Mufukkas playing patty cake?

If you knock a motherfukker out and and they get a second chance that shyt don't mean nothing now?
You just supposed to absorb that shyt like nothing and still win the fight because "mental toughness"?

Are you retarded?

You sound upset. Lol. No you was supposed to go into the tank and get knocked out apparently

I never knew. When shyt dont go as planned its ok to get knocked on your ass and cant put your mouthpiece back in instead of getting your *best ever" ass up.

 

[Antdrewjosh]

yeah i think you are trolling at this point..buster hit him with a combination that would have taken out any heavyweight..he didn't lie there on the canvas..he attempted to get off the canvas..dude even found his mouthpiece that was knocked out from buster's punches and attempted to put it back in..he got to his feet..just not by 10..and even then tyson was wobbling badly with an eye closed..no decent ref will let you continue like that

Correct i said that the ref may stop it. But you get your ass up. No troll here. Mike didnt attempt to do shyt. He played around with that mouthpiece

 

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You sound upset. Lol. No you was supposed to go into the tank and get knocked out apparently

I never knew. When shyt dont go as planned its ok to get knocked on your ass and cant put your mouthpiece back in instead of getting your *best ever" ass up.

Knocking a heavyweight out and having to continue aint no fukkin "mental toughness" shyt, you weirdo.

That's like winning the fukkin Tour de France then being told you gotta bike another 40 miles....then being trashed because you didn't win.

 

[patscorpio]

Correct i said that the ref may stop it. But you get your ass up. No troll here. Mike didnt attempt to do shyt. He played around with that mouthpiece

youre not making one bit of sense...its clear as day tyson attempted to get to his feet and did get to his feet but he was as they say "knocked out"

ken norton, who you said would beat tyson because of mental toughness, ended his career taking shots keeled over that could have killed him...was that mental toughness?

 

[Antdrewjosh]

Thats getting up

 

[Antdrewjosh]

This is fukking around and not really wanting to continue. 10th round by the way

Ali was the 15th round