Let us discuss the facade of the WWE fans hatred for John Cena

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Used to hate him.. grown to respect his work ethic, desire and dedication.. and against the right opponents, he can put on great matches.. Punk/HBK/Edge etc.

Pretty much the same. If there's one thing you can say about Cena, it's that he gets you genuinely interested in a match's outcome. He hits the ring and you're like :ohhh: "How is THIS going to turn out?", whether you love him or hate him.

At this point, the only things that annoy me is when he tries too hard to be funny or when he actually seems bothered by the hate. Reminds me of people that get too invested on message board reputation and try too hard as a result. When he's just having fun out there without being a TOTAL herb, he's A-OK.

Also, you can't really turn him at this point or anytime soon when you think about it because he's essentially perfect as he is. :manny:

Punk works great as a heel/tweener, which makes it awesome when he faces Cena who is a super babyface that gets mega-heel heat from smarks. If he were full heel, things wouldn't work because we like seeing Cena get sonned by cool bad guys.

Think about all the opposition. They all work better as heels. If we were to see Cena/Ambrose, we'd want Ambrose to be heel. Same with Ziggler. Same with Punk. Same with Orton. Can't have it both ways. :hula:
 

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I want him to turn heel because I think if he fully committed to it, he'd kill it and be the best character in years and years.

We saw glimpses of it with the thuganomics bit, but that was always going to be limiting. Even his little people elbows mocking was a sign that he would have a *ton* of charisma as a bad guy.

Question is, would he ever really let the inner a$$hole out in the face of all his little kid worship?

If he did, I firmly believe he'd be the best gimmick since Rock/Austin without a doubt.
 

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So true. When the fans felt that Stone GOAT was getting stale and there were some boos smattered here and there, he went heel. Same with Rock and Hogan. Cena's been the same since 2006. People don't hate him as a human being (ok, not everybody), but people are sick of his bullshyt Superman character. And as long as women and kids lap it up and buy his merchandise, it's not going to change anytime soon. I'm telling you the only thing that will force Vince's and Cena's hand is for people to start throwing trash in the ring like he was Hollywood Hogan.
But what I dont understand is, if they were successful in turning the top faces in the past and not lose tons of money, then why cant they do it again? :mindblown: I keep hearing well he makes money and kids love him, well so did austin and rock and they were both turned, so what is it with cena that will be so different?
 
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The rumble moment...and the legit huge pop last night totally exposed it

If you know me posting on here, I`ve been saying it since 2008.

It's a fukking sham, that RR match was the funniest shyt ever. The fraudulent Cena haters got exposed for what they are.

When you're around these people in person they disgust you even more
 

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a facade?? :why: -- ratings are scraping mid to high 2's these days. Compare that to when Cena first got on top. You can argue your opinion over how a crowd here and there pops all you want. But I want to argue facts. The facts are that as far as TV ratings, there are a few million less people watching WWE every week now then there were then Cena started on top. We make a big deal now when rock comes back and gets a 3.4 or 3.5 rating. A few years ago that shyt was considered LOW.

So you can't tell me people dont hate Cena. He has turned away a portion of the audience.
 

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But what I dont understand is, if they were successful in turning the top faces in the past and not lose tons of money, then why cant they do it again? :mindblown: I keep hearing well he makes money and kids love him, well so did austin and rock and they were both turned, so what is it with cena that will be so different?

No-ones over enough as a draw to be the replacement face to Cenas heel. Everyone else either gets no sold by the crowd or they over with the crowd but dont do the box office numbers and business stays the same, 5-10k difference in either direction from the year/ppv before
 

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No-ones over enough as a draw to be the replacement face to Cenas heel. Everyone else either gets no sold by the crowd or they over with the crowd but dont do the box office numbers and business stays the same, 5-10k difference in either direction from the year/ppv before

you dont need one. Cena would still be the draw whether hes face or heel like Hogan was.
 

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If you know me posting on here, I`ve been saying it since 2008.

It's a fukking sham, that RR match was the funniest shyt ever. The fraudulent Cena haters got exposed for what they are.

When you're around these people in person they disgust you even more
But that shyt was actually entertaining, unexpected, and worth cheering.. people only boo cena cuz he doesnt do anything outside the box, the one time he did people cheered, it's that simple.
 

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you dont need one. Cena would still be the draw whether hes face or heel like Hogan was.

Hogans an icon tho and seeing Hogan as a heel was :mindblown: considering the last time he was a heel to most people he was called Thunder Lips in a movie a decade and half earlier and this was even a couple years before WM/Hulkamania took off.

Also you forgettin that we in the Phuckery Guidance era. Hogan could push the boundaries, we aint even allowed blood now.
 

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I don't hate cena, just annoyed

it really sparked it for me the raw after the ziggler/cena match

a clean win for ziggler could have done wonders for him especially after that ppv. But NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO cena kicked out of finisher after finisher after finisher did his routine and done. Then he went on this routine how he's been losing a lot and he needs a comeback.
 

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so we're gonna pretend he didnt get booed as soon as he was in the ring though?

fukk kevin nash get a huge pop when he came back at that 1 rumble, but after that nikkas was like :stopitslime::stopitslime: when he kept showing up
 

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I don't hate cena, just annoyed

it really sparked it for me the raw after the ziggler/cena match

a clean win for ziggler could have done wonders for him especially after that ppv. But NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO cena kicked out of finisher after finisher after finisher did his routine and done. Then he went on this routine how he's been losing a lot and he needs a comeback.

That feud little mini-feud was the absolute and prime ammunition for so many people can't stand John Cena. You watch him completely annihilate Ziggler in a feud like that then, all of a sudden he'll cut some asinine promo about how this he's massive underdog who had no chance of winning the rumble, no chance at beating CM Punk, how outclassed he is by The Rock. all the while anyone with half a brain sits a looks at the screen like :comeon::shaq2::what::mindblown:

it's so stupid. I enjoy some of his matches, but the character is a complete bore and chore to watch at times.
 

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I WAS IN THE SAME SITUATION, BROTHER! THE FANS WERE JUST TIRED OF ME GOING OVER EVERY TIME AND I WAS HOGGING THE SPOTLIGHT WHEN YOUNGER, BETTER PERFORMERS NEEDED IT, DUDE! I EXTENDED MY OWN CAREER WITH A MONUMENTAL HEEL TURN AND CENA COULD TOO, MEAN GENE! BUT THAT WILL MEAN CONTINUED SPOTLIGHT HOGGING AND ZIGGLER JOBBING FOR YEARS ON END, JACK! IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT, BROTHER? IF YOU REALLY WANT TO CHANGE WWE, YOU WOULD HAVE TO FIRE JOHN CENA, DUDE!
 
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