VegetasHairline
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This shyt ain't worth discussing. I'm tired of all the fukking LeBron threads. Y'all argue about the same shyt every fukking day.
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Lestans according to the stats Luka is better than Bron was his first 100 games
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LeBron's rookie year had the 2nd slowest pace since the early 50s, had zones AND hand-checking legal simultaneously, was loaded with defensive giants, and was arguably the most difficult year to score in of all time.
I mean come on now, you had a team with prime Kobe and prime Shaq (two supposedly unstoppable offensive talents) coached by the GOAT Phil Jackson and they only averaged 82ppg in the Finals. A Prime Kobe/Prime Shaq team scored 68 points (Shaq 14, Kobe 11, no one else on the team in double figures) in a Finals game.
Kobe played 45 minutes just to put up an 11-3-5 with 4 turnovers stat line. That's some crazy shyt.The last two years, on the other hand, are being played with fastest pace since 1990 (though isn't necessarily easier since it's not an expansion year like 1990 was and defense has locked in a lot since then), and is clearly the most opened up basketball has been in a couple decades.
Yet MJ's rookie year (and all the way up through his 5th year) was played at an even faster pace. AND the pace only dropped significantly when the NBA added six expansion teams between 1988 and 1995 (the most the NBA history had ever added in such a short time), fukking up the chemistry of so many teams and forcing so many unready players to get playing time that the league actually moved the three-point line in for MJ's comeback seasons just because fools couldn't shoot for shyt.
And that's before you even get into the teammates part of the equation.
THAT'S why some of y'all are so annoying. You try to make stat arguments from a place of total ignorance, then get pissed off when people use actual context to explain stats as if that should give you the right to use made-up context.
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G-Zeus
G-Zeus Chrystler...the brehsident
If they adjust it to pace and he is still on top..I will agree he was better.
Bryan Danielson
Jmare007 x Bryan Danielson x JLova = King Ghidorah
So make a thread about it then
fukk this handegg shyt
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Like I care
Yall losing to Philly anyway
Long Live The Kane
Tyrant Titan
Oh so NOW pace, style of play and rule changes the last couple years meant to benefit the offense makes a difference 
Compare both the responses and general tune in this thread to this one
https://www.thecoli.com/threads/pippen-just-said-he-could-average-40-in-this-era.749524/
And at the cognitive dissonance
Dankster argued me down that pippen couldn't average 4 points more per game in today's juiced ass league with double degit increases in pace because shot contest defense is the best it's ever been...frame it somehow to include lebron and his entire argument flips on its head
Compare both the responses and general tune in this thread to this one
https://www.thecoli.com/threads/pippen-just-said-he-could-average-40-in-this-era.749524/
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at the cognitive dissonanceDankster argued me down that pippen couldn't average 4 points more per game in today's juiced ass league with double degit increases in pace because shot contest defense is the best it's ever been...frame it somehow to include lebron and his entire argument flips on its head
You have to take teammates into account too. LeBron was playing with a bunch of guys who had won 17 games the year before. Luka is playing with guys who just beat the Sixers and the Bucks in back-to-back road games without him even stepping on the court.
Can you even imagine the crazy lines young LeBron would have put up if he had Porzingis/Hardaway/Curry to pass the ball to and keep the court open for him instead of Z, Flip Murray, and Eric Snow?
If you weren't trying to intentionally be dumb you'd see that I already addressed that low-IQ thinking just 6 comments above yours.Oh so NOW pace, style of play and rule changes the last couple years meant to benefit the offense makes a difference
Compare both the responses and general tune in this thread to this one
Just because other people use ACTUAL context to explain what happens doesn't mean you somehow earn the right to just make shyt up.
Long Live The Kane
Tyrant Titan
You haven't done shyt but contradict the general tilt of what you've typed titangraphs arguing in other threads...no doubt guided by nothing more than the gravitational pull you have towards LeBron's groin...
@ "the actual context".... As if you ain't just looking at stats and trying to retrofit them to some predetermined narrative you already had
Lol
Bryan Danielson
Jmare007 x Bryan Danielson x JLova = King Ghidorah
Like I care
Yall losing to Philly anyway
Prolly not
But will gladly await their arrival in 2 weeks
Good for him. If he’s better than Lebron, that means he should be held to the same standards as Lebron
IF HE STARTS FORMING SUPER TEAMSIN THE EAST HE BETTER ATLEAST GO
4-4 IN THE FINALS.
G-Zeus
G-Zeus Chrystler...the brehsident
True .. actually make LBJ even more impressive ..Luka no slouch but LBJ had to carry a team that would have been back in the lottery years to come