LeBron’s peers don’t respect him
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god shamgod
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Jordan leads in mvp’s,championships,every advanced stat/metric known, all time leading scoring avg in regular season and playoff history,playoff record scoring for a game ,finals mvps has more 1st team all defense ,dpoy top 5 in every statistical category for a sg won more with less talent
Lebron has nothing on jordan besides longevityBtw jordan did all this playing 8 less seasons and retiring twice
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That’s actually not a flex for LeBron, if he was winning 60 games with role players then why couldn’t he win when it mattered the most with “role players”Westbrook on his own is on the same tier as MJ in regards to that; his scoring was a bigger asset than his passing and his decision making is suspect. You're reducing this to way more simplistic arguments though...and even in the most simplistic measures you still aren't making a point because solo Westbrook was only a 7th seed playing that style while Bron in his prime was winning 60 games with roleplayers
FunkDoc1112
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Because a competent defense can easily stop and expose a team that relies so much on one guy in a seven game series. Why are you making me explain elementary concepts to you lmao
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I wouldn’t start a team with someone who holds the team hostage then dips at the first sign of adversity
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You keep hyping up LeBron’s playmaking like it made him undefeated in the finals when in reality he’s just an efficient stat padder that only won chips by forming super teams and still found a way to only go 4-6 where 1 chip was in a lock out year and the other was the bubble.
Art Barr
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Me: MJ's not as a good of a playmaker as LeBron. When he tried playing PG, he stuffed the statsheet but didn't win games.
Y'all: BUT MJ HAS SIX RINGS
Children
This is cap.
As you do not even know what period we are talking about.
As you said phil was rhe coach. When it was Doug Collins.
Like is aid stop cap'n cause I got one more fact to stfu too.
You usually make total sense. Yet on this subject. You not that guy.
I am that guy and how this actual forum even indepthly knows about jordan. Especially in the exact discussion of mj being rhe gaot pg as well. That came from my posting and then later articles being found to explain what I already said.
Nobody in general knew of the period outside of chicago like that.
Jordan been surpassed the argument of magic at point. Just like jordan surpassed the goat argument as well.
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god shamgod
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*10
Art Barr
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Westbrook, no, Harden is worth discussing but his decision making and game management can get murky
Harden is damn shole a better playmaker than MJ though
No he is not.
Also...you cap'n on the record for the period. Since you went ghost after posting fraud win loss record stats.
34-24 afTer this stretch.
The bulls record was
AGAIN CAUGHT YOU UP CAP'N.
stop the cap.
Stop.
Again
..Jordan is a higher skill player than lebron. In every facet of the game.
There is no metric or fact you can cite that bron ha higher than jordan.
Stop the cap.
Art Barr
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So you think Jordan had better teams than lebron. If so..you cap'n.
@FunkDoc1112
As kebron always had better players in roster his whole career. Than the absolute busters mike played with.
The only ready player Jordan played with was: byson dele before the name change.
No player was on the bulls roster. Where Jordan did not have to carry and ramp said guy.
other than iceman. When Jordan was injured.
Stop the cap
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FunkDoc1112
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nikka, you are tweaking. I didn't say Phil Jackson was the coach in 89. I said when the Bulls started winning championships, Phil Jackson made Scottie Pippen the playmaker. I brought up Phil Jackson because YOU are the one that keeps jumping all over the timelines making dusthead ramblings.
Lemme make it real simple for you:
Doug Collins puts Jordan at PG. The results are mediocre. The next season, Phil Jackson institutes the triangle and takes the ball out of MJ's hands. Phil Jackson deeming MJ an insufficient playmaker later on supports my point of PG MJ in 89 not being impressive. You have proven nothing other than you struggle to read.
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Art Barr
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Bison Dele was MJ's only good teammate huh
Yeah, you've said quite enough
You skimmed again.
I did not say the only player. I said the only player Jordan played with who was ready to go was byson dele.
Or iceman.
Just like the facts you skimmed about mj at point.
Yet you cap'n.
You lauced't and used fake ass facts. I had to expose you for too.
Stop the cap.
I used to like bron more than you nikkaz too. Till the dumbest trade in nba history. Made it obvious this nikka lebron. Has no idea how to win.
on a goat level frfr in the nba. Which is why lebron is and will never be the goat player.
Again. Mj is the goat. That is by fact and metrics.
Not because I feel like it. Not because I like jordan. It is a fact.
As jordan leads in every metric in nba history. Used to compare players.
It is a fact.
You can nOt dispute a fact.
I post facts. It is why I am the goat here. It is why you nikkaz never countered shyt I ever posted. It is because I am fact based. Plus actualized in seeing the facts tske place in real time and being real about it. Simple as that.
You lauced't this one. Still a good poster but you lauced't.
Like you always all have. When posting against :
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HandyWithTheSteel
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MJ stans.
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Again.
You not knowing the timeline and got exposed.
Mike already removed from the point guard position.
after the rego season stint. You are talembout.
if mike was going to return to the role. After it was already etched in stone.
as to why jordan was not playing pg anymore. That decision was made by Collins. At the end of rhe rego seasin. Before the playoffs that season.
before Phil took over definitively. After that season .
Y'all nikka better stop the cap. You know damn well you do not know this shyt on my level.
You not even a former bron fan.
on my level as a current bron fan.
So stop the cap.
As you current bron fans can Not keep it real. Never kept it real.
since popovich played bron.
like a public school nikka in the nba finals. When bron as a parochial school kid. The arguable goat parochial school kid in nba history.
should have easily dispatched. Pop juvenile high school level scheme to stop bron. Yet bron fail IN THE FINALS. THAT since then. None of you delulu bron fans, have kept it real. Even after the popovich exposal and the mavs exposal. Y'all fail to keep it real. While before the dumbest trade in history as a bron fan. I kept it real.
Only way bron would have any argument.
is if bron would have converted
the fourpeat with cleveland. Which bron singlehandidly ruined by the dumbest trade in nba history. Which traded away the most pedigreed backcourt in nba history. Where bron would and could have shirked his natural.
for kyrie at the one and became a pippen ripoff at rhe three. All because Wiggins was there to shore up the other guard position at the two.
You bron stans are the flaug'n worse.
You selectively pic bullshyt.
to try to disprove fact. When you CAN NOT DISPUTE A FACT.
Plus fail to know the timelines. illustrated by you here.
the fact is and will always remain. By every measure able metric in nba history. Michael jordan is the goat .
That is a fact. Not an opinion.
An undenial fact.
Anything else is simply cap.
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