LeBron’s peers don’t respect him

[Osmosis]

Lebron is a better passer, finisher, defender, 3 point shooter, and rebounder than Jordan. Jordan is a better mid range shooter and free throw shooter.

 

[god shamgod]

Lebron is a better passer, finisher, defender, 3 point shooter, and rebounder than Jordan. Jordan is a better mid range shooter and free throw shooter.

Jordan leads in mvp’s,championships,every advanced stat/metric known, all time leading scoring avg in regular season and playoff history,playoff record scoring for a game ,finals mvps has more 1st team all defense ,dpoy top 5 in every statistical category for a sg won more with less talent Lebron has nothing on jordan besides longevity

Btw jordan did all this playing 8 less seasons and retiring twice shyt ain’t no debate

 

[fifth column]

Westbrook on his own is on the same tier as MJ in regards to that; his scoring was a bigger asset than his passing and his decision making is suspect. You're reducing this to way more simplistic arguments though...and even in the most simplistic measures you still aren't making a point because solo Westbrook was only a 7th seed playing that style while Bron in his prime was winning 60 games with roleplayers

That’s actually not a flex for LeBron, if he was winning 60 games with role players then why couldn’t he win when it mattered the most with “role players”

 

[FunkDoc1112]

That’s actually not a flex for LeBron, if he was winning 60 games with role players then why couldn’t he win when it mattered the most with “role players”

Because a competent defense can easily stop and expose a team that relies so much on one guy in a seven game series. Why are you making me explain elementary concepts to you lmao

 

[fifth column]

I already said Kobe is the natural successor to MJ, so we agree.

Magic is about the only player you can compare to Bron since we've never seen someone that size with his play-style. Most guys his size are much slower/plodders (Luka) while the smaller guys simply aren't as strong.

Bron vs MJ is a comparison ONLY because they're so different. Kobe played almost exactly like MJ but wasn't as good....Bron wasn't as successful as MJ and I think MJ >> Bron....but I also think if you're starting a team from scratch, Bron might be the better #1 pick. More of a floor raiser than MJ.

I wouldn’t start a team with someone who holds the team hostage then dips at the first sign of adversity

 

[fifth column]

Because a competent defense can easily stop and expose a team that relies so much on one guy in a seven game series. Why are you making me explain elementary concepts to you lmao

You keep hyping up LeBron’s playmaking like it made him undefeated in the finals when in reality he’s just an efficient stat padder that only won chips by forming super teams and still found a way to only go 4-6 where 1 chip was in a lock out year and the other was the bubble.

 

[Art Barr]

Me: MJ's not as a good of a playmaker as LeBron. When he tried playing PG, he stuffed the statsheet but didn't win games.
Y'all: BUT MJ HAS SIX RINGS

Children

This is cap.

As you do not even know what period we are talking about.

As you said phil was rhe coach. When it was Doug Collins.

Like is aid stop cap'n cause I got one more fact to stfu too.

You usually make total sense. Yet on this subject. You not that guy.
I am that guy and how this actual forum even indepthly knows about jordan. Especially in the exact discussion of mj being rhe gaot pg as well. That came from my posting and then later articles being found to explain what I already said.


Nobody in general knew of the period outside of chicago like that.
Jordan been surpassed the argument of magic at point. Just like jordan surpassed the goat argument as well.



Art Barr

 

[god shamgod]

I would argue Lebron being an elite playmaker works against him in legacy discussions....The narrartive hes too willing to pass then look for his offense and be the scoring champion every year...MJ is an alpha dog he wanted to take the shots not defer he won 9 scoring titles...MJ should be a playmaker and defer to Steve Kerr and Randy Brown? Ive heard this argument many times.

*10

 

[Art Barr]

Westbrook, no, Harden is worth discussing but his decision making and game management can get murky

Harden is damn shole a better playmaker than MJ though

No he is not.


Also...you cap'n on the record for the period. Since you went ghost after posting fraud win loss record stats.

34-24 afTer this stretch.

The bulls record was

The Bulls finished that season with a 47-35 record,

AGAIN CAUGHT YOU UP CAP'N.

stop the cap.

Lebron is a better passer, finisher, defender, 3 point shooter, and rebounder than Jordan. Jordan is a better mid range shooter and free throw shooter.

Stop.

Again
..Jordan is a higher skill player than lebron. In every facet of the game.

There is no metric or fact you can cite that bron ha higher than jordan.

Stop the cap.


Art Barr

 

[Art Barr]

Because a competent defense can easily stop and expose a team that relies so much on one guy in a seven game series. Why are you making me explain elementary concepts to you lmao

So you think Jordan had better teams than lebron. If so..you cap'n.
@FunkDoc1112

As kebron always had better players in roster his whole career. Than the absolute busters mike played with.
The only ready player Jordan played with was: byson dele before the name change.
No player was on the bulls roster. Where Jordan did not have to carry and ramp said guy.
other than iceman. When Jordan was injured.

Stop the cap



Art Barr

 

[FunkDoc1112]

This is cap.

As you do not even know what period we are talking about.

As you said phil was rhe coach. When it was Doug Collins.

Like is aid stop cap'n cause I got one more fact to stfu too.

You usually make total sense. Yet on this subject. You not that guy.
I am that guy and how this actual forum even indepthly knows about jordan. Especially in the exact discussion of mj being rhe gaot pg as well. That came from my posting and then later articles being found to explain what I already said.


Nobody in general knew of the period outside of chicago like that.
Jordan been surpassed the argument of magic at point. Just like jordan surpassed the goat argument as well.



Art Barr

nikka, you are tweaking. I didn't say Phil Jackson was the coach in 89. I said when the Bulls started winning championships, Phil Jackson made Scottie Pippen the playmaker. I brought up Phil Jackson because YOU are the one that keeps jumping all over the timelines making dusthead ramblings.

Lemme make it real simple for you:

Doug Collins puts Jordan at PG. The results are mediocre. The next season, Phil Jackson institutes the triangle and takes the ball out of MJ's hands. Phil Jackson deeming MJ an insufficient playmaker later on supports my point of PG MJ in 89 not being impressive. You have proven nothing other than you struggle to read.

 

[FunkDoc1112]

So you think Jordan had better teams than lebron. If so..you cap'n.
@FunkDoc1112

As kebron always had better players in roster his whole career. Than the absolute busters mike played with.
The only ready player Jordan played with was: byson dele before the name change.
No player was on the bulls roster. Where Jordan did not have to carry and ramp said guy.
other than iceman. When Jordan was injured.

Stop the cap



Art Barr

Bison Dele was MJ's only good teammate huh

Yeah, you've said quite enough

 

[Art Barr]

Bison Dele was MJ's only good teammate huh

Yeah, you've said quite enough

You skimmed again.
I did not say the only player. I said the only player Jordan played with who was ready to go was byson dele.
Or iceman.



Just like the facts you skimmed about mj at point.

Yet you cap'n.

You lauced't and used fake ass facts. I had to expose you for too.
Stop the cap.


I used to like bron more than you nikkaz too. Till the dumbest trade in nba history. Made it obvious this nikka lebron. Has no idea how to win.
on a goat level frfr in the nba. Which is why lebron is and will never be the goat player.

Again. Mj is the goat. That is by fact and metrics.
Not because I feel like it. Not because I like jordan. It is a fact.

As jordan leads in every metric in nba history. Used to compare players.
It is a fact.

You can nOt dispute a fact.

I post facts. It is why I am the goat here. It is why you nikkaz never countered shyt I ever posted. It is because I am fact based. Plus actualized in seeing the facts tske place in real time and being real about it. Simple as that.

You lauced't this one. Still a good poster but you lauced't.

Like you always all have. When posting against :

Art Barr




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