It’s just Mike, Stevie Wonder could see that clearly
How soThese MJ stans in here losing their minds
Irrelevant. The point is he got to play towards his strengths when he played with Magic. Kevin Love and Chris bosh had to move away from their strengths to fit in with Lebron...1) James Worthy played with Magic and Kareem from the very start of his pro career and by the time he didn't he was washed. His ceiling was a 21 PPG guy. I don't know why you even brought him up
Bosh and Love said it was difficult fitting around Lebron. Thats not something that's said about players that supposedly make everyone around them better...
The Cavs reupped most of the supporting cast from 2009-10 the next season and proceeded to go 8-32 without Bron BEFORE the injuries fukked them up. That supporting cast was roleplayers and a couple of good defenders just like what MJ was working with, but Bron was a better defender than MJ was in 89 (I alreayd know you're about to bring up steals and blocks and sact like that's the only facet of defense that matter
In case you don't read numbers that well, what these stats are showing is 2009-10 Bron on a team as fast at the 89 Bulls would've put up 32.5-8-9.3...or even better than MJ on the same efficiency at that
Yea and the Rockets sucked after Harden left. If you completely build a team to revolve around 1 player's abilities of course when you remove that 1 player from the equation that team sucks. You think that's a flex? Line up the players Lebron played with(1st Clev stint) and the ones MJ played with(pre Phil) and Lebron had the better players around him. Its undeniable so you can't just say LBJ is more successful when he had better players that meshed with what he was doing while Jordan played with a bunch of randoms.About 80% of your basketball talk is about Lebron James. Give it a rest broIrrelevant. The point is he got to play towards his strengths when he played with Magic. Kevin Love and Chris bosh had to move away from the strengths to fit in the Lebron... and
Bosh and Love said it was difficult fitting around Lebron. Thats not something that's said around players that supposedly make everyone around them better...
Oh and I don't care about your nerd babble either. Just because a player averages 10 pts in 18 mins doesn't mean if you give him 36 he averages 20. Thats not how life works. And what player did LBJ elevate? KLove wasnt made better and neither was Bosh. Wade went down in production and Kyrie was on his already on his way up (and got even better after) and AD was considered top 5 (or near it) before even playing with Lebron. So what good player has elevated after coming to play with Lebron?
I think we also agree on the only comparison between them is being 6'8/6'9 and having PG skills. But other less successful examples of that are Lamar Odom/Anthony Mason. The big difference between LBJ/Magic is that it was easy to play with Magic while being difficult to play with Lebron. And this comes from the words of Bosh/Wade/Love.
Bro it comes across as desperate even rob parker who no body can argue sanely is a fan of the man, has lebron ranked as 2 only behind jordan, his resume , rings, championship and consistent high level of play puts him squarely in that conversation with jordan as the two greatest of all times, i have bron as the greatest player ever but i have no issue if people have MJ 1a and lebron 1b. No other play comes close to their resume, high peak and longeviity.
Top 15? Not top 10? What changed for you
Lebron has ruined modern day basketball. That bothers me and I make it known
The difference in between what MJ accomplished and what LBJ has accomplished is the career of KD. Thats how far ahead MJ is. Only a fan(atic) could call that 1A and 1B.....
Facts this isnt someone dealing with reality or facts just blind hate for lebron its like debating with someone if pigs can fly.
