Lebron really looks old now

[jaydawg08]

LeBron is 40 years old… he’s literally doing the public a favor playing as well.

lol you can’t argue with stupid people man.. Kobe playing so late in his career is doing the public a favor but LeBron playing the most seasons in NBA history isn’t?

 

[Everythingg]

In most scenarios that don't involve a league completely and utterly diluted by expansion, a team losing their star player weeks before the start of the season would be dead on arrival.

Thats called being a team with a system in place and great coach. Bron doesn't allow coaches to coach and only plays in systems that totally revolve around him..

The Bulls, however, won nearly 60 games and were legitimate championship contenders. They pushed the Eastern Conference champs to 7 games and would have won the series if it weren't for a blown call.

Are you following? Stay with me please.. Going into the next season, they lost the second best player of the 1993-1994 team who was their best rim protector, rebounder, and second best scorer. They also lost depth guys in Cartwright and Paxson. The 1995 team was a completely different team, Jordan's absence still loomed but now you take away another important piece and other contributors. It's not rocket science why the team would be worse. Jordan would also struggle to accumulate wins if you took away both Pippen and Grant in 1992-1993.

Okay now 1 time all star Horace Grant, Bill Cartwright who averaged a whopping 5 pts and 3 Rebs and John Paxon 2 pts is a greater loss than a 10 time scoring champ and 6 time MVP. Oh and lets forget about them signing Ron Harper who averaged a 20 piece the year before and was a definite upgrade from Paxson who, again, averaged 2 pts and only played in 29 games the year before.

Who cares how many more games it took if Lebron scored more with 1000+ less FGs?

I get it bruh. You'll ignore Lebron shooting more 3s bc that ties explains theattempt difference. You'll also ignore that it took Lebron 1 season longer to reach the same point MJ did bc it shows on a game to game basis it shows he did more. Oh and all that is with him missing one season bc of injury and 2 bc of retirement which would have made the differential even worse. You have to ignore and diminish because MJ's achievements > Bron's

That just means Lebron wasn't as much of a chucker

Goof babble. Chuckers don't shoot 50%+ from the field

and was responsible for running the team's offense and creating for others, which he did at a legendary rate. MJ averaged 26.2 fga in his career 30+ point games, he shot 53.2% from the field and averaged 5.3 assist per game in those. LeBron averages 23.1 fga in his career 30+ point games, shooting 55.4% from the field and also averaging 7.2 assists per game in those.

Please don't bring up % when Lebron shoots 37% when the shot's not a layup or dunk (outside 3 feet).

Not to mention, average team scoring was 110.8 ppg in the season MJ got drafted and 93.4 the season Lebron got drafted. Jordan's first six or so seasons in the league were in an offensive environment that was much more conducive to scoring than the dead-ball era Bron came up in during the first couple of seasons of his career. Tack on the illegal defense/zone defense rules and the rapid expansion in the 1990s and you get a perfect storm for Jordan to dominate.

And there are rules that benefit modern offenses. Nobody can help what era they played in. Whats clear is MJ stood over everybody while Lebron was in the finals looking like:

when a contemporary came into the game. When Kobe won his 5th ring him and Wade was gossiping on the phone saying they need to stop him from winning. Mind you, he ran to the second best player in his conference and top 5 player in the league at the time to finally win. Won 2 and quit when it got tough. Then ran to Kyrie and Love and quit when it got tough before running to AD. All that to still fall short of what MJ did. Pathetic

Miss me with the pearl clutching Some of ya'll literally only post in this section to shyt on Bron but when the veil is lifted on your favorite players you start crying about Bron stans being disrespectful. shyt is pathetic.

Who's clutching pearls? Im pointing out that you can only compare the 2 by taking accomplishments away from Jordan. Im not mad at your belief but am mad at propaganda pushed to make people reject what their eyes see. But the longer Bron stays the worse his rep gets

 

[Ben.]

It's time to hang it up LeBrehs

 

[King Poetic]

Ring number 5 is never coming

Had a great run

Just retire

 

[Trojan 24]

How can anyone make this argument when MJ started from scratch with the a bottom cellar Chicago bulls team )who accomplished nothing before him) and turned them into a dynasty? And did this with his best teammate being an unknown draft pick at first (Scottie Pippen) who grew into an being an all time great by playing alongside MJ? Bron couldn't get it done and had to run to Miami to team up with the best player in the conference (besides himself) to actually win.

We actually saw Jordan be a floor raiser while Lebron failed to do it in Cleveland then went to LA and failed again with lottery picks in Ingram and Lonzo and underrated pick ups in Josh Hart and Kuzma? Then when he failed, he runs to a top 5 player (again) in AD. Even Kobe had Bynum elevate from a no name draft pick to an all star center that was the 2nd best C in the league behind Dwight. How come Lebron hasn't had anyone elevate under him if he's the better floor raiser that "makes players around him better"?

These cacs can't seem to comprehend taking your team from the bottom to an all-time dynasty. And talking about floor raiser? Only floor Bron raises is those with cac game. So those who can space the floor and hustle. But if you got actual game? Good luck, go stand in the corner

 

[Trojan 24]

all they remember is dropping 60 in his final NBA game.

The GOAT send off

 

[Trojan 24]

LeBron is 40 years old… he’s literally doing the public a favor playing as well.

Except nobody want his ass, not even his hometown now that they got something cooking

 

[Roger king]

lol you can’t argue with stupid people man.. Kobe playing so late in his career is doing the public a favor but LeBron playing the most seasons in NBA history isn’t?

Strongly agree its not about logic or reasoned debate its about hating lebron, in one breath he argues kobe was doing the league a favor by playing those last two seasons when the lakers were abysmal and didn't make the playoffs and were last in the conference and the laughing stock of the league, yet in the same breath the latter part of bron career where he won a championship and his team constantly making the playoffs in the west is ''fake'' and doesn't count, there is no rhyme or reason to that at all.

Again the entire premise of this thread is that lebron the oldest player in the NBA is ''washed'' yet he is averaging the same number of points per game as steph curry who folks have heralded as the greatest point guard in history, more rebounds and more assists and has a higher defensive rating and both teams have won the same number of games this season, yet there is no curry is washed thread or any level of similar critic towards another all time great player as there is to lebron who currys three years younger. So what is the metric for washed or is it simply based on who people like or not? What is the neutral criteria to asses players ?

 

[Shadow King]

all they remember is dropping 60 in his final NBA game.

On 50 shots you better have 60

 

[Brolic]

Except nobody want his ass, not even his hometown now that they got something cooking

That’s because he’s a legacy act at this point. Like Jordan on the Wizards. I still try to watch all his games knowing this will probably be his last season.

 

[VegetasHairline]

On 50 shots you better have 60

Bron has played over twenty years and has ONE 60 point game.

 

[Shadow King]

I think these two statements contradict each other a bit. I think MJ provides more roster flexibility simply because he proved he can actually play in a system and can be coachable. He didn't need the ball in his hands as much as Bron and was much better at catching and making his move and then coming off the ball. Lebron has shown he only wants to play one way with the ball in his hands and everything revolving around him which then limits the kinds of players you can put around him.

Bron has repeatedly stated he hated playing with big men who lived in the paint so that's limiting. Pairing a traditional PG with Bron is a waste. Bron works best being surrounded by 3 and D players for the most part.

And this ain't to knock Bron as he clearly can carry subpar squads to high levels like you said. Maybe the best floor raiser in history. But when paired with superstars I don't think Bron is as effective as some of the other all time greats due to Bron ball.

Miami was a system though, with off ball action. Haters (not you) always like to cry "b bu but Bosh in the corner!" as if Cleveland 1.0 and Miami Bron was doing the exact same thing.

 

[Shadow King]

Bron has played over twenty years and has ONE 60 point game.

And he didn't need 50 shots. I don't give a fuçk dog.

 

[10bandz]

bubbubbubbubbut what about Kobe look at these pathetic LeGBT nikkas

 

[10bandz]

So the same as this site's daddy?

Stick to crying about how u get no p*ssy in TLR you fukking incel. nikka out here so frustrated with women he talking about getting snipped