LeBron has now lost 4 Finals series

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Kobe bytch ass stans never like to do top 5s by position as they should be :mjlol:


Magic, Jordan, Bron, Duncan, shaq...

Wonder why?

Because no one in their right fukking mind is putting Kobe at the sg... :camby:
 
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There are levels to greatness. Not every great is a legend or a god-like figure of the game.

Jordan (God)
Wilt (God)
Magic (Legend)
Bird (Legend)
Kareem (Legend)

The players above had a mythical aura about them. The things they did, the way they played was legendary. People will never forget them or the things they did. For each one, you can name some mythical-sounding stat or attribute of theirs.

Jordan: I don't know where to begin with him. Perfect basketball player. No other way to describe him.
Wilt: 100-point game. 50 ppg in a season. Nuff said.
Magic: 6'9" magician. Best court vision of all-time. You will never see another point guard like him.
Bird: Talked shyt to your face and backed it up. "I'm going to shoot the game winning shot right here. In this spot". *swish* Who does that today?
Kareem: 6 rings. 6 MVPs. 38,387 points. Nuff said.

Lebron's biggest problem is he's more focused on being in control than on improving his game and improving his skills. He's more concerned on being a businessman than a basketball player. As a black man, that's great. But it won't help your on court legacy. For Jordan, Bird and Magic, you could tell basketball was their life. It consumed them when they lost especially. You never get that sense with Lebron. Like he said last year after being down to the spurs, "It's just basketball." For lebron, his game/skills and mentality are just not on the level of the aforementioned players. Watching him play, he is a great front runner. Once shyt gets tough though, man, you can just see him shut down. He mentally checks out. More often than not, this dude doesn't seem to elevate his game when things get rough. He is the most forced and media-fabricated great of all-time. The above players didn't need media outlets propping them up 24/7. You saw their greatness.

Bron's shooting 30% between 3-10 feet from the basket and we're being told we're witnessing one of the greatest finals performances of all-time. The nikka leaves a perennial championship contender for a team he handpicks; a team with an oft injured pg; he demands trading the #1 pick for a stat-padding cac loser who he shyts on almost as much as his coach, acquires carmelo's trash, and brings along dead weights mike miller, james jones, shawn marion and kendrick perkins for the ride and then throws every single one of them nikkas under the bus when he loses. He left one team due to exhaustion and carrying the load only to exhaust himself even more and then bytch about the load that he put together. You can't want to run the show, get the ok to run the show, then bytch about having too much to do. He is his biggest fan and worst enemy. He has 4 loses because his game isn't as polished and his mentality isn't as psychotic as Jordan's, Magic's or Bird's.
 

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Kareem over Russell? :mjlol:

Kobe over Bird? :russ:
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My top 5 (in no particular order):
Russell
Jordan
Kareem
Magic
Bird

My next 5 (in no particular order):
Duncan
Kobe
Shaq
Hakeem
Big O

Needless to say, Bron isn't top 10 GOAT.
 

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My top 5 (in no particular order):
Russell
Jordan
Kareem
Magic
Bird

My next 5 (in no particular order):
Duncan
Kobe
Shaq
Hakeem
Big O

Needless to say, Bron isn't top 10 GOAT.
So im guessing Bill Russell is in off the strength of championships

when when people talk about players in they Top....They mention ALL old ass players

shyt is so retarded to me...

how is Kobe not better than Bird?

Bill Russell isnt even that nice
 

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i'm disgusted by the placement of magic johnson. the fukk are you guys on? i'd rank him #2 or #3 and not sure how anyone could rank him any lower. if he beat jordan in 91 he could have been the GOAT himself. :scust:
 

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So im guessing Bill Russell is in off the strength of championships

when when people talk about players in they Top....They mention ALL old ass players

shyt is so retarded to me...

how is Kobe not better than Bird?

Bill Russell isnt even that nice

You're exposing yourself big time for saying that Russell "wasn't that nice"...11x champion (including 2 as a player-coach), 5x MVP, 12x all-star, all-star game MVP, 5x rebounding champion, has the Finals MVP trophy named after him...

You're a dumbass for saying Russell wasn't that nice :mjlol:
 
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As we saw this year, winning a championship is more than just having one great player. There are a wide variety of factors that go into winning the chip- coaching, organization, roster, luck of the draw with playoff match-ups, etc. One guy really can't do it all, and this has been proven time and time again with all-time greats i.e. Charles Barkley, Karl Malone, Nique, etc. that are legendary INDIVIDUAL players who just were never blessed with the circumstances to win a title.

I understand that the modern-NBA is very "star-centric", but reality is that basketball is a team-sport. When the Warriors won the title, everyone got rings, not just Iggy or Steph. Everyone from the owner to the assistant equipment manager got one, because they all contributed to the championship in some way, and they all were
important.

Ultimately, a championship is a TEAM award, not an individual one. Even "Leading a team to a championship" is not a valid measurement, not only because it's incredibly vague but also because its too dependent on the aforementioned TEAM circumstances.

The only honest way we can assess how good a player was is through individual accomplishments- individual stats and awards.
 

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U acting like the New York Knicks and Denver Nuggets were beasting with JR and Mos before the trade. They got dude to replace Anderson Varejao. They never had both playing at the same time

They played without Love in the semifinals in Eastern Conference Finals so there another pointless fact

Jr smith had good some good years with the knicks and he went from being second option on the knicks to 4th option and mosgov was showing promise on the nuggets and they didnt have love in the semifinals but they had him during the regular season u acting like this is the same cleavland roster from last year
 

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for nba superstars and nfl quarterbacks YES IT IS. in the nba, there's only 10 guys on the court at each time. superstars can have a huge impact. same with QBs touching the ball every play.
My point is that their "impact" isn't enough to win a title when other factors aren't up to par. A superstar player is just one (but certainly important) cog that drives a championship "machine".
 
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