LeBron has now lost 4 Finals series

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Shaq needed Wade just like he needed Kobe.. Shaq was a role player and played his role well.. Kobe didn't need Shaq and thats why he won 2 rings after Shaq left
Actually it was the Heat that were losers in the Playoffs before Shaq got there....oh he needed Gasol alright. Kobe didn't beast or have a legendary run like Shaq in 2001 or anything. He was Never that good:laugh:
 

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Actually it was the Heat that were losers in the Playoffs before Shaq got there....oh he needed Gasol alright. Kobe didn't beast or have a legendary run like Shaq in 2001 or anything. He was Never that good:laugh:

Thats simply unprovable.. But these facts still remain..

Kobe has gotten rings without Shaq...

After the first Championship win Kobe became the #1 option on offense

Lebron never got a ring without Wade...

Oh.. and 81 points
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Lebron is on pace to eclipse almost everything you have here. He already has 3 more MVPs and the same number of Finals MVPs with a better career stat line

lets see it before you crown him. i personally don't see lebron eclipsing kobe's nba record 11 all-nba 1st team selections or 9 all-defense 1st team selections.

i don't believe bron's game translates into the 30s like kobe's. i think he falls off rather quickly in the next 2 years. similar to how allen iverson fell off once his athleticism faded.
 

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You don't get to just call half the NATIONAL BASKETBALL ASSOCIATION "weak" when its convenient.

In ONE year, they went from worst to damn near first.

nikka they added kevin love and jr smith mosga and lebron waiters was there second best player last year
 

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You're lying your ass off..the whole damn offense was set up to pound the ball to Shaq which would draw double teams and give Kobe open looks.

Kobe NEVER got any open looks on those Lakers teams. NEVER. You might have him confused with Derek Fisher, Robert Horry, Samaki Walker, Luke Walton or one of those ninjas.
 

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Kobe NEVER got any open looks on those Lakers teams. NEVER. You might have him confused with Derek Fisher, Robert Horry, Samaki Walker, Luke Walton or one of those ninjas.
LOL...did you watch the Lakers from 1999-2004? Shaq would get swarmed and he would still dunk and get fouled hard. Once he was in too deep, he was COMPLETELY unstoppable. But when he go for the hook, they would try to swarm and he would dish it out in multiple ways. Stoping Shaq was the #1 defensive gamble for the other team.....
 

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LOL...did you watch the Lakers from 1999-2004? Shaq would get swarmed and he would still dunk and get fouled hard. Once he was in too deep, he was COMPLETELY unstoppable. But when he go for the hook, they would try to swarm and he would dish it out in multiple ways. Stoping Shaq was the #1 defensive gamble for the other team.....

That is true but Kobe was never the one that got left open. They doubled Shaq, Kobe always had the opposition's best perimeter defender on him at all times, and they ran out to everyone else. Aside from kobe and Shaq, the rest of their team was offensively inept....OK Glen Rice one year, and maybe you can say Ron Harper. But overall, teammates 3-12 had the ball kept out of their hands.
 

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nikka they added kevin love and jr smith mosga and lebron waiters was there second best player last year

U acting like the New York Knicks and Denver Nuggets were beasting with JR and Mos before the trade. They got dude to replace Anderson Varejao. They never had both playing at the same time

They played without Love in the semifinals in Eastern Conference Finals so there another pointless fact
 
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Unless he wins about three more rings :francis: Unless he gets a winning record in the finals :francis:

It's over....The best he can hope for is Top 8.....can't put him over nikkas that get it done in the finals and nikkas who didn't have to team up with four HOFs to get it either :francis:

Jordan
Kareem
Duncan
Shaq
Kobe
Bird (honorable mention)
Magic (honorable mention)
Dream (honorable mention)

If Lebron is as good as his faggit azz stans say he is, he gonna have to boss up, become a stone cold killer in the playoffs and get two or three rings back to back to make up.....if not :mjlol:

Stcupid bytch,how is Magic honorable mention? Magic is better than all those guys listed arguably besides Jordan,your post didn't even make sense fukk you
 
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Bird only has 3 rings, why do you guys ride that cac so hard

1. led his team to a championship in only his 2nd season. led the team in pts, rebs, and stls.... 2nd in assts.

2. probably would have won more championships if he didn't get injured

3. of the players in your top 5 have any of them ever beaten a team as good as the showtime lakers? cause bird did.


just some things to consider.
 
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