Lebron and the double standard....Took this from a poster on realGM

[GreatestLaker]

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Who is "acting" like that? The point is, D Rose was a better player than Wade the year Bron went to Miami.

Second, there was no doubt that Rose was on his way to becoming an NBA superstar and was already there. So the point you c/s saying "he could of played with somebody like stodimirere or rose who wasn't a superstar yet" is pure bullshyt.

I disagree. Wade was better than Rose.

Lebron left the Cavs to play with a player that was considered to be on his level. NO ONE HAD ROSE AT THAT LEVEL.

Rose was not a superstar in 2010. Quit with the bullshyt.

No one saw Rose as an MVP caliber player in the 2010 off season. People wouldn't have blamed Lebron if Rose had turned into a superstar. If anything he would have gotten credit. Same way no one discredited Shaq for playing with Kobe and Wade. They weren't seen as superstar players when he joined the Lakers and Heat.

 

[NYC Rebel]

I disagree. Wade was better than Rose.

Lebron left the Cavs to play with a player that was considered to be on his level. NO ONE HAD ROSE AT THAT LEVEL.

Rose was not a superstar in 2010. Quit with the bullshyt.

No one saw Rose as an MVP caliber player in the 2010 off season. People wouldn't have blamed Lebron if Rose had turned into a superstar. If anything he would have gotten credit. Same way no one discredited Shaq for playing with Kobe and Wade. They weren't seen as superstar players when he joined the Lakers and Heat.

Dudes suddenly put D Wade on Bron's level in order to take shots at him, but people really didn't feel that way.

Bottomline, the outrage behind him leaving was some of the most forced and pathetic shyt I've seen in sports.

When you anchor it to logic, which some of us chose to do from jump, it made zero sense.

Looking back, it the "outrage" still makes no sense. I thought coming in that "the decision" was corny, so I turned on my tv around 10:55 to know where he was going to go. I honestly didn't see why it was so bothersome.

 

[threattonature]

I disagree. Wade was better than Rose.

Lebron left the Cavs to play with a player that was considered to be on his level. NO ONE HAD ROSE AT THAT LEVEL.

Rose was not a superstar in 2010. Quit with the bullshyt.

No one saw Rose as an MVP caliber player in the 2010 off season. People wouldn't have blamed Lebron if Rose had turned into a superstar. If anything he would have gotten credit. Same way no one discredited Shaq for playing with Kobe and Wade. They weren't seen as superstar players when he joined the Lakers and Heat.

At the time of Lebron's free agency Rose had just started to show that he was ready to become a superstar. He's kind of like Kyrie Irving right now. Everybody thinks he's going to reach that level in a year or two but NOBODY expected Rose to be the Rose that we saw that very next year. It's crazy to suggest Rose was near Wade's level or status at that time.

 

[GreatestLaker]

Dudes suddenly put D Wade on Bron's level in order to take shots at him, but people really didn't feel that way.

 

[OG Talk]

At the time of Lebron's free agency Rose had just started to show that he was ready to become a superstar. He's kind of like Kyrie Irving right now. Everybody thinks he's going to reach that level in a year or two but NOBODY expected Rose to be the Rose that we saw that very next year. It's crazy to suggest Rose was near Wade's level or status at that time.

You're arguing perception and not reality...


To believe what you guys are saying means Rose went from "being nowhere close to Wades level" to "the best player in the league" in one offseason...


Who does that? Not Kyrie Irving....Not anybody...The reality is that at the time Wade was overrated and Rose was underrated...The fact that we have 20/20 hindsite as our guide and yet you are still forcing the argument of your perception is dishonest...


But you're a Kobe Stan.. Just like everyone else 1 starring this thread and trying to push forward this bullshyt narrative....

 

[GreatestLaker]

At the time of Lebron's free agency Rose had just started to show that he was ready to become a superstar. He's kind of like Kyrie Irving right now. Everybody thinks he's going to reach that level in a year or two but NOBODY expected Rose to be the Rose that we saw that very next year. It's crazy to suggest Rose was near Wade's level or status at that time.

Word.

 

[NYC Rebel]

I never heard Wade and Lebron being equals until Bron decided to team up with him.

It was well established that the two best wing players in the league was Kobe and Bron.

Wade and his pathetic Heat teams post 2006 took him out of that debate. The manufacturing began once Bron decided to join the Heat. SUDDENLY....niqqas wanted to call Bron Pippen.

shyt was forced and contrived.

I'm just glad my argument has never changed from day one. Niqqas were just corny as fukk, manufacturing new statuses for niqqas based on Bron leaving.

 

[GreatestLaker]

You're arguing perception and not reality...


To believe what you guys are saying means Rose went from "being nowhere close to Wades level" to "the best player in the league" in one offseason...


Who does that? Not Kyrie Irving....Not anybody...The reality is that at the time Wade was overrated and Rose was underrated...The fact that we have 20/20 hindsite as our guide and yet you are still forcing the argument of your perception is dishonest...

Wade was never overrated. If anyone is overrated its Rose. LOL @ Rose being the best player in the league. People credited the Bulls record to Rose. When it was clearly the defense that won them games.

How is it dishonestly? Did anyone have Rose as a better player than Wade in 2010? There is your answer.

 

[threattonature]

You're arguing perception and not reality...


To believe what you guys are saying means Rose went from "being nowhere close to Wades level" to "the best player in the league" in one offseason...


Who does that? Not Kyrie Irving....Not anybody...The reality is that at the time Wade was overrated and Rose was underrated...The fact that we have 20/20 hindsite as our guide and yet you are still forcing the argument of your perception is dishonest...


But you're a Kobe Stan.. Just like everyone else 1 starring this thread and trying to push forward this bullshyt narrative....

Isn't perception EXACTLY what we're talking about here. People perceived it to be a bytch move to join somebody that was perceived to be on his level instead of competing against him.

I personally didn't even bytch about him making the move and gave him credit for pulling it off. I thought basketball wise Chicago made the most since but overall I thought Lebron made a boss move and was glad he did it since the NBA is way more exciting with dominant teams. All I'm speaking against is why Lebron was criticize, not on if I actually agreed with the criticisms.

But since you ain't got shyt else to say you fall back on the Kobe stan rhetoric.

 

[GreatestLaker]

I never heard Wade and Lebron being equals until Bron decided to team up with him.

It was well established that the two best wing players in the league was Kobe and Bron.

Wade and his pathetic Heat teams post 2006 took him out of that debate. The manufacturing began once Bron decided to join the Heat. SUDDENLY....niqqas wanted to call Bron Pippen.

shyt was forced and contrived.

I'm just glad my argument has never changed from day one. Niqqas were just corny as fukk, manufacturing new statuses for niqqas based on Bron leaving.

A year before Lebron joined the Heat Wade averaged 30/7.7/5/2.2 all while being first team all NBA.

You are just making shyt up now.

 

[Bilz]

The revisionist history in here is laughable.

LeBron was absolutely criticized for leaving Cleveland. "They brought in players for him, they won 60 games, he should have stayed because winning there as the man would have built his legacy" Even though those exact same people said he would never win a title in Cleveland because he was a choking bytch.

He was criticized for going and being someone else's "Robin" even though the same people calling Wade "Batman" were simultaneously filing paperwork to put Batman on Larry Holmes status.

He was criticized because Dan Gilbert had to find out on television that his star player left for another team, even though he would have found out through twitter or television even if LeBron didn't have a show.

He was criticized for having a decision show by a bunch of people who sat down and watched every second of it. Even if he had just tweeted he was going to Miami, ESPN would have flooded the airwaves with that bullshyt anyway. Reporters are already trying to talk about where he's going in 2014.

 

[OG Talk]

Isn't perception EXACTLY what we're talking about here. People perceived it to be a bytch move to join somebody that was perceived to be on his level instead of competing against him.

I personally didn't even bytch about him making the move and gave him credit for pulling it off. I thought basketball wise Chicago made the most since but overall I thought Lebron made a boss move and was glad he did it since the NBA is way more exciting with dominant teams. All I'm speaking against is why Lebron was criticize, not on if I actually agreed with the criticisms.But since you ain't got shyt else to say you fall back on the Kobe stan rhetoric.

Okay understood... I agree...


The confusion comes from me thinking you were agreeing with dude you were dappin....

 

[NYC Rebel]

A year before Lebron joined the Heat Wade averaged 30/7.7/5/2.2 all while being first team all NBA.

You are just making shyt up now.

So your team's ability to go far in the playoffs didn't effect how a player is perceived?

And he still wasn't considered Lebron's equal because his teams didn't make the playoffs in 07 and were bumped in the first round two straight years.

Since when does having that as a part of your resume put one in the Lebron conversation, the Cavs having much more success during that period, as being peers?

That's bullshyt. Lebron won two of his MVPs during those years. Wade was not considered his peer. Niqqas suddenly made Wade into one when he joined the Heat.

fukk outta here.

 

[GreatestLaker]

So your team's ability to go far in the playoffs didn't effect how a player is perceived?

And he still wasn't considered Lebron's equal because his teams didn't make the playoffs in 07 and were bumped in the first round two straight years.

Since when does having that as a part of your resume put one in the Lebron conversation, the Cavs having much more success during that period, as being peers?

That's bullshyt. Lebron won two of his MVPs during those years. Wade was not considered his peer. Niqqas made him one when he joined them.

fukk outta here.

Kobe wasn't considered the best player in 06 and 07?

The top 3 players during that time were Lebron, Wade and Kobe. Saying otherwise is revisionist history.

 

[OG Talk]

Kobe wasn't considered the best player in 06 and 07?

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Not according to anyone with an MVP vote...