Lavar Ball and BBB got these Nike execs mad :umad:

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This post got some heat, but you underestimate the global market my nikka. Ali nig or whatever them shoes coming out of China Wade and Thompson fukks with, can easily swoop up BBB give Ball a distribution deal and assist with the launch. The Asian shoe market is a different beast imo.


Again, where were you when bmf and buckshot had kix for sale, tho.

This shyt you talembout is a bullshyt pipe dream.


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Y'all generation really believe the shyt on tv.
It is crazy.
Growing up with 9/11 Really sent y'all off.
 

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if Lavar had a sista for a wife, we'd support him.. :yeshrug:

Yeah the thing is it's almost a forgone conclusion his sons will have kids with white women.

Then the lineage and company would turn white anyways.:ld:


Idk what cacs y'all talking about George Raveling is black


nikkas have a tendency to say what everyone else is thinking. Meaning, it's highly likely his co-workers and Phil Knight have said similar things in private. Raveling is just the one to go public with it.
 

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The stoop with dat dope fanny padding
I gotta say, I've criticized lavar before, but if he actually got these giant corporations shook :whoo::banderas:

You idiot.

He doesn't have them "shook"

He's just an embarrassment with all the ridiculous shyt he been saying

It's about his kids and he's the one trying to get all the attention onto him because he failed as an athlete
 
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Yeah the thing is it's almost a forgone conclusion his sons will have kids with white women.

Then the lineage and company would turn white anyways.:ld:





nikkas have a tendency to say what everyone else is thinking. Meaning, it's highly likely his co-workers and Phil Knight have said similar things in private. Raveling is just the one to go public with it.

haev u seen their IG's? they all have ugly cac's
 

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Its ironic because Nike has indirectly created more successful Black business through its athletes than most independent companies.

I support what lavar ball is doing but he is definitely going about it the wrong way.
black businesses that are still capped, and not owned by said black person.
 

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Again, where were you when bmf and buckshot had kix for sale, tho.

This shyt you talembout is a bullshyt pipe dream.


Art Barr

Y'all generation really believe the shyt on tv.
It is crazy.
Growing up with 9/11 Really sent y'all off.
nikka China population is 4x the size of America, and them Chinese emperor muthafukkas buy sneakers too . They claims moved 650,000 unit sales over there nikka...Klay Thompson.

THeres a reason NBA used Yao tap into that market, no it worked. I may not saying Lavar is going to succeed, but the market dynamics have definitely changed. You thinking domestic, I'm thinking global.

nikka I was facilitating stock trades the day them planes crushed the building on 911, so miss me with that 9/11 bullshyt..:russ:
 

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This post got some heat, but you underestimate the global market my nikka. Ali nig or whatever them shoes coming out of China Wade and Thompson fukks with, can easily swoop up BBB give Ball a distribution deal and assist with the launch. The Asian shoe market is a different beast imo.

If that brand is going to do that, the shoe better be fire. Why pay for a wack shoe for no reason when it would cost less and you have more ownership doing the deal the regular way?

Remember, every company is going to do whats smart for them, not just invest in you because you think they should.

If BBB had some shoe designers pumping out some heat that had message boards and people like "Damn!", I could see this happening - but we are all literally saying this sh*t sucks but just want to support it for the culture.

Here's another smart idea for LB: They could've signed with the China brand like Wade did, and that brand wouldn't have been a super popular move in USA, but it would've gotten them higher percentage of profits and if he did it out of college, a lot of publicity for doing that out of the gate.

Here's another issue. Nike, Adidas etc spend billions on marketing. Meaning your face is on every website, billboard, tv commercial, movie, etc as well as overseas tours, events, camps etc. This raises your profile globally, which allows you to secure other deals in other markets making even more money, because Nike helped make you super famous. They put you on a wall next to Lebron and Serena Williams, whose star power lit your star power.

People are so focused on the vanity of having BBB plastered on generic items that they arent seeing that this kid is going to lose major money. I mean I dont think anyone thinks this kid is going to be the next Kobe, and Kobe had a commercial with Serena, Kanye, Tony Robbins and about 10 other global celebs that made his personal brand even larger than life. Thats what these companies can give you, and you dont have to pay for it.
 

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You idiot.

He doesn't have them "shook"

He's just an embarrassment with all the ridiculous shyt he been saying

It's about his kids and he's the one trying to get all the attention onto him because he failed as an athlete


You fakkit.
Nike just gave him, a competitor, no matter how small, a free press release
 

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But lebron didn't have a lavar ball in his life :francis:


And nike cut him a 90 million dollar check :francis:


Forget nike kept bron a float as far as brand, breh.

nikkaz was not there cop'n those foam bron, the air force one bron, the bron six with the buckle and heel etc.
nikkaz did not even own the bron two and three and they have designs lifted from skewing or abstracting the concorde.
when he was getting swept in the finals, and losing over and over in the finals.
or ecf to Orlando and Boston before Miami and during MiaMI too.

What marketing budget of disposable income can the balls afford on that level.
when they inevitably become tobey bailey one two and three.

Y'all tweaked't.
I hate to put the low side potential to these kids but as far as draft board speculation.
These kids are tobey bailey one two three and I seen this all before.

They may have a fun fluid globetrotter style in pickup, at the rec center.
Yet, to be successful in the nba as a backcourt player you need otherworldly in air mastery and artistry, dribble drive skills, hang time, and the ability to convert above the rim and I see none of that with these kids.

It is a ton of natural graceful shooters, but curry is where he is because genetically. Curry, comes from arguably one of the best spot ups shooters ever.
Where genetically curry is predisposed and also reared by pedigree.
to be good as any second Gen player.
Plus executes on a level higher despite the connection genetically to whom his father is.
Plus we see the alternative side of the spectrum in his other brother seth.
Including the fact curry had to put an unknown school on the map.
The balls have not done any thing at ucla in any type of mythos.
Incomparison to past ucla actualized all time pros.
They did not even make the finals, and did not do anything noteworthy in a deep round.
They didn't not even perform better than Westbrook and love.
So, how am I supposed to believe these kids pan out in the league.
There is nuffin there to make anything but bust comparison as far as ucla lineage players in the league.

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if the next top 10 draft picks created their own apparel...they would still be # 1..by a long shot

But it would hurt their earnings compared to previous quarters. Publicly traded companies are slaves to delivering for shareholders. Anything that negatively affects their growth trajectory would have them shook.


Don't get me wrong, I agree with @calh45. Star power is just one piece of the puzzle. There are a lot of other issues they'll have to deal with (mfg costs, marketing, distribution, etc). They could be successful, but a big name alone is no guarantee. And there's no way they're more profitable than Nike in the beginning as Nike has all the other stuff in place. So I'm a bit surprised by Nike's exec's comments.
 

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Ask yourself if the balls could sell a pair of pie tops.


All cause the only rare guy I saw ever rival and do what y'all talembout.

was used to sell a pair of pie tops and



I want a pair of pie tops as a collector item
I don't want anything big baller brand related as sports apparel clothing.
Let alone as shoe.



Art Barr

Lonzo ball better be the most surprising ramp up player since grant hill and I don't see that,....at all.
If not you can forget about launching a brand.
As it took grant hill as the best player in the league with a dope ass all time hof shoe in the entire line of Fila.

to even sniff what jordan was doing.


BBB is not even remotely in the stratesphere.
as even a logo or call sign in print.
to create real buyer intrigue in the sports apparel market.


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nikkaz ain't even own no grant hills in general in this thread.
when the grant hill fila were retro'd but talembout big baller brand is gonna pop.

nikka, no.
 
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The actual game played on courts,i dont mean when they decided to cut the bottom of peach baskets...The NBA was formed in the 1940s as the BAA and colleges only started playing it in the 20s/30s.
He didnt say NBA, he said basketball, which has been around over 100 years.
So even if Lavar fails that will serve as vital lessons for the next set of hustlers trying to establish their own imprint. Nothing fake about ownership and settin up shop
Hopefully the next set of hustlers have some taste, design aesthetic and business savvy.
 
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