Lauryn Hill was a not a legend, she just made a legendary album

[Budda]

On these forums, I've seen it all, and I would agree its ridiculous. But this is where it gets skewed, because people want to move the goal posts, first it has to be sales, then albums, if not albums, it has to be prominent, but for each case, there's somebody like Vanilla Ice, who we all agree isn't a legend.

You don’t think Biggie is a legend? He only had two albums

 

[Killigraphy]

You idiot, you've already established the album is legendary. If the album is legendary, how is Lauryn Hill not a legend?

I just explained several reasons why the album is legendary beyond it selling 10 million units. And I see you didn't address any of the other points.

Reading comprehension is important, cut out the petulance and quite the name calling, just makes you look like a child. Producing a legendary product can be mutually exclusive from an artist being legendary, hence Milli Vanilli.

 

[JustCKing]

So said album has to have an impact on the culture? Okay, so by your very definition, Pun, and Big L aren't legends.

Breh, Capital Punishment had impact. How did it not?

Big L? While I'm familiar with some of his music, I could see an argument being made in his favor.

 

[Killigraphy]

You don’t think Biggie is a legend? He only had two albums

I answered that already.

 

[JustCKing]

Reading comprehension is important, cut out the petulance and quite the name calling, just makes you look like a child. Producing a legendary product can be mutually exclusive from an artist being legendary, hence Milli Vanilli.

Breh, name a legendary Milli Vanilli album. You're an idiot because you are behaving like child and knowing better, but still oblivious. You said Lauryn's album was legendary, but continued to argue she isn't a legend. Your arguments up to this has been listing albums that have sold millions of units, but not legendary. There's idiocy in that argument thus rendering you an idiot for continuing to argue it.

 

[Killigraphy]

Breh, Capital Punishment had impact. How did it not?

Big L? While I'm familiar with some of his music, I could see an argument being made in his favor.

Okay so whats the impact? I can easily argue that Vanilla Ice had more impact on rap due to his revenue funding death row...via Suge of course.

 

[Killigraphy]

Breh, name a legendary Milli Vanilli album. You're an idiot because you are behaving like child and knowing better, but still oblivious. You said Lauryn's album was legendary, but continued to argue she isn't a legend. Your arguments up to this has been listing albums that have sold millions of units, but not legendary. There's idiocy in that argument thus rendering you an idiot for continuing to argue it.

You missed the point, like I said, you can keep acting like a grown man child all you want, best move on if you can have some kind of discussion over the matter without complaining and throwing insults....its wasted on me.

 

[JustCKing]

Okay so whats the impact? I can easily argue that Vanilla Ice had more impact on rap due to his revenue funding death row...via Suge of course.

If for nothing else, Capital Punishment was the first album by a Latin rapper to go platinum.

And no, Vanilla Ice ain't no legend because of Death Row.

 

[JustCKing]

You missed the point, like I said, you can keep acting like a grown man child all you want, best move on if you can have some kind of discussion over the matter without complaining and throwing insults....its wasted on me.

Take your own advice. You have yet to explain how someone makes a legendary album, but not be a legend. Until you can argue your point without goal post moving and use some logic, you will continue to be an idiot.

 

[JustCKing]

Reading comprehension is important, cut out the petulance and quite the name calling, just makes you look like a child. Producing a legendary product can be mutually exclusive from an artist being legendary, hence Milli Vanilli.

No its not being a legend and doing something legendary are not mutually exclusive. What is legendary product did Milli Vanilli produce?

 

[Killigraphy]

Take your own advice. You have yet to explain how someone makes a legendary album, but not be a legend. Until you can argue your point without goal post moving and use some logic, you will continue to be an idiot.

Already explained how someone can produce something legendary and not be a legend. But then the definition of legendary comes with addendums and goal post moving. Already addressed that.

 

[Killigraphy]

No its not being a legend and doing something legendary are not mutually exclusive. What is legendary product did Milli Vanilli produce?

Using your logic - Milli Vanilli went diamond....first pop album by a french duo to go diamond....using your point here in saying Pun is legendary. Okay....so if Pun is legendary, so are Milli right?

 

[JustCKing]

Already explained how someone can produce something legendary and not be a legend. But then the definition of legendary comes with addendums and goal post moving. Already addressed that.

No you didn't. Breh, you aren't slick. You know full well, the albums you are attempting to bolster as legendary aren't in fact legendary. You rarely of ever see those albums brought up or even talked about. You are bringing them up simply because they sold 10 million units.

This thread wouldn't even exist of Lauryn did not just not hit 10 million units for Miseducation. If so, you been on this site for years, that album has been talked about for years. You ain't make this thread until now.

 

[Killigraphy]

No you didn't. Breh, you aren't slick. You know full well, the albums you are attempting to bolster as legendary aren't in fact legendary. You rarely of ever see those albums brought up or even talked about. You are bringing them up simply because they sold 10 million units.

This thread wouldn't even exist of Lauryn did not just not hit 10 million units for Miseducation. If so, you been on this site for years, that album has been talked about for years. You ain't make this thread until now.

Best move on then you're contradicting yourself and can't believe something can be mutually exclusive from another....your issue is one of conflation, its flawed logic.

 

[erker]

So which is it? Selling a lot or contributing to rap? People are moving the goal posts. I can't buy into one legendary = Legendary status. You could be riding a wave or get lucky (Adele), or you could higher some of the best beat makers Timbaland, Pharrell, etc and have one hell of a solid platinum album. Its all "commercial" since everyone wants to make money, thats the goal first. I consider DOOM a legend, and I don't believe he's had one platinum album. Nor did he contribute to hip hop as strong as most....but that needs to be clearly defined.

It is the contribution to rap. How is that not clear in my post. I dont give a fukk about album sales. It's an added bonus that the album went Diamond.

You make comparisons to Adele or albums with hitmakers, but Lauryn did it mostly herself and made an album that was not riding a wave. So those comparisons fall short.

DOOM is most definitely a legend. He has a very strong contribution to underground hiphop. Madvillainy is a top tier classic in hiphop. His other records are very good also. Again, it doesn't matter one bit that he didnt have a platinum album for his legendary status.