Last 18/19 NY Knicks season transmission: "F*** all the haters from you to SAS" See y'all in '20

[Bobby Lashleys eyebrows]

Tanking won't guarantee us the number 1 pick plus how can we develop Mitch into AD or Knox into KD if we're tanking? We should only tank if our rookies are absolute trash and have no potential of being anything like Washington, Cleveland or Atlanta.

 

[TOAD99]

Real talk regarding your "we should tank harder" statement...

Instead of just saying it, can you actually explain how we'd be able to accomplish it?

Like...dead ass... What are you saying the coach & players should be doing?

What should the coach do if we are up 1 and the opponent has ball with 20 secs left?

What should coach do regarding lineups?

I need to know what y'all nikkas are talking about...

Yeah i don’t get it either

Like are we supposed to tell these dudes, go out there and miss all your shots or some shyt

I’m cool with them winning or losing as long as the youth gets playing time and development

If we win, I know our young dudes are making progress and if we lose I know it’s because we’re still developing

We can’t attract free agents if all our dudes are out there losing on purpose and looking like shyt

 

[BornStar]

Real talk regarding your "we should tank harder" statement...

Instead of just saying it, can you actually explain how we'd be able to accomplish it?

Like...dead ass... What are you saying the coach & players should be doing?

What should the coach do if we are up 1 and the opponent has ball with 20 secs left?

What should coach do regarding lineups?

I need to know what y'all nikkas are talking about...

It's simple everyone should be on code or a couple of people should be on code whether it's the coach and GM or the coach and a star player like Porz sit out this year. The bigger picture is more important and you will get your money in the long run. This is bigger than you. Keep it on the low.

It's very intentional it either comes through certain players literally dropping the ball , committing fouls in certain situations or sitting your best players during key moments. You know Kanter can't guard Anthony Davis.. you know when you put in Frank the opponents Offense is stifled.. take that nikka out. You know Baker will get cooked against Kyrie. You know what to do Fiz.

I know you guys or someone knows how this works or seen intentional tanking. It's not forbidden or some myth. This shyt is 100percent valid and happens.

idk the GMs plans but it has to be a call from up top.

 

[Bobby Lashleys eyebrows]

Exactly, lol. Imagine attracting KD or Kawhi to our team when we're shooting below 11% and have a 95% turnover rate. You think them nikkas will be like,
"Damn, them nikkas need my help, aight bet!"

Hell naw.

 

[BornStar]

Exactly, lol. Imagine attracting KD or Kawhi to our team when we're shooting below 11% and have a 95% turnover rate. You think them nikkas will be like,
"Damn, them nikkas need my help, aight bet!"

Hell naw.

It matters their motivation. Some players want money.. Some players already have Rings.. and some players want to leave a Legacy. Everyone doesn't have the same way of thinking or motivations especially if youre already accomplished 2 final mvps or whatever.

From the looks of it the way KD is thinking is he wants to gain his reputation back from being a team hoping beta. Do you think he wants the scrutiny of joining another powerful team with the tools already on hand? Or he wants to start a new slate to put his name with some of the greats?

Remember the stigma from the anaylst are KD will never be better considered in the top 10 or 25 players ever after what he did. However if he takes the terrible Knicks to the Finals to Win dont u think that will change everyone's view on beta KD who already has 2 or 3 rings and who took the easy route.

 

[Bobby Lashleys eyebrows]

It matters their motivation. Some players want money.. Some players already have Rings.. and some players want to leave a Legacy. Everyone doesn't have the same way of thinking or motivations especially if youre already accomplished 2 final mvps or whatever.

From the looks of it the way KD is thinking is he wants to gain his reputation back from being a team hoping beta. Do you think he wants the scrutiny of joining another powerful team with the tools already on hand? Or he wants to start a new slate to put his name with some of the greats?

Remember the stigma from the anaylst are KD will never be better considered in the top 10 or 25 players ever after what he did. However if he takes the terrible Knicks to the Finals to Win dont u think that will change everyone's view on beta KD who already has 2 or 3 rings and who took the easy route.

True but I don't think anyone wants to pick a free agent that is more interested in a high salary than winning a ring. That is exactly what got us Melo and Noah. The goal is to strive for players hungry to win a championship by showing our valiant effort without a big name first.

If the Knicks had a semi talented team 5-6 years ago, we would've acquired LeBron instead of Melo. Who really would've wanted to come to a team other than money where Landry Fields is your best player?

 

[BornStar]

True but I don't think anyone wants to pick a free agent that is more interested in a high salary than winning a ring. That is exactly what got us Melo and Noah. The goal is to strive for players hungry to win a championship by showing our valiant effort without a big name first.

If the Knicks had a semi talented team 5-6 years ago, we would've acquired LeBron instead of Melo. Who really would've wanted to come to a team other than money where Landry Fields is your best player?

I think any team will pick up a high caliber player regards of what their motivation is, you would have him. I'm sure if AD wanted to come to NY for money we would sign him in a second just like we signed a washed up Carmelo for 5 years 95 million.. and we all knew Melos motivation was money.(like you said)
However I don't think KD motivation is money anyway, It's probably his legacy. With that being said I still don't know if we are going to pick him up regardless.

 

[DPresidential]

Good luck*k with that "alright, guys, we need max effort out there tonight! When you get the ball and go around the pick for the drive...DROP the ball off your knee like we practiced, we need shots to be flat, brick off the front rim...

Alright, I have faith in you guys! Hands in... on 3...
1
2
3...

bytch nikkaS!"

When is development around a professional structure and good practices supposed to happen in that type of environment?

Also, coaches get fired when public opinion turns on them in the media... Especially in NY. When we were losing this year, they were shytting on Fiz even though they knew it was a development year.

Players? nikkas get traded at the drop of a hat. You expect them to agree to intentionally lose games so we can draft someone who might replace them?! This isn't 2k... nikkas are human.
They have future salaries and sponsors they are trying to obtain.

None of it makes sense in real life.

Now, I'm not saying KD is even considering NY, but no, he's not looking to baby sit dysfunctional nikkas who don't know how to compete.

How could he be sure that the coach knows how to even coach if he's throwing games?

It's...I don't know. I'll never understand.

 

[Lucha Vandross]

I know most of us are talking Zion/Cam talk but have we looked at the idea of grabbing a cat like Bol Bol who I believe will be around at 5?


Assuming he can safely put on nba weight to fill himself out.

 

[BornStar]

We can’t attract free agents if all our dudes are out there losing on purpose and looking like shyt

Call me crazy but I'd rather build through the draft and keep who we have over picking up a star free agent like KD. I was the same one back in the day who wanted to keep Felton , Wilson Chandler , Gallonari and David Lee.

Our chemistry is already there. Once Porz comes back with our newly acquired draft pick we will win more games with a sense of fulfillment from organically building a playoff bound team for the future.

 

[Bobby Lashleys eyebrows]

Good look with that "alright, guys, we need max effort out there tonight! When you get the ball and go around the pick for the drive...DROP the ball off your knee like we practiced, we need shots to be flat, brick off the front rim...

Alright, I have faith in you guys! Hands in... on 3...
1
2
3...

bytch nikkaS!"

 

[BornStar]

Good look with that "alright, guys

I have faith in you guys! Hands in... on 3...
1
2
3...

bytch nikkaS!"

Again it's a top down thing. From the GM to the Coach to the star player sitting out and taking out certain players in certain situations.


Look at the Big picture and the future. Sacrifice and relinquish now for the Flourishing future.

That's funny tho.

 

[Bobby Lashleys eyebrows]

I know most of us are talking Zion/Cam talk but have we looked at the idea of grabbing a cat like Bol Bol who I believe will be around at 5?


Assuming he can safely put on nba weight to fill himself out.

Exactly! Top 5 is what...:
RJ Barrett
Zion Williamson
Cam Reddish
Nassir Little
Bol Bol or that Rui dude from Japan

Why tank and be greedy when Mitch and KP will easily be a top big man into the next 2 or 3 years. Bol Bol is 7'3 hitting 3 pointers and any of those 5 will contribute great to our team. I kid you not, we will be as nasty as Boston or dare I say "the warriors" if these young guys develop properly along with 2 free agents.

We had Vonleh holding Giannis and dropping 15 but we're talking about tanking. I'm glad we have the best coach we've ever had since Jeff van Gundy.

Imagine in the best case scenario, Knox gets nasty by the mid season and shows out on the highlight reel. KP comes back monstrous and KD says fukk it, I wanna play with my protege and train him to be like me.

 

[DPresidential]

I'm going to say this again...


I think something might be off with KP's rehab.

I need an update.

 

[storyteller]

Tanking won't guarantee us the number 1 pick plus how can we develop Mitch into AD or Knox into KD if we're tanking? We should only tank if our rookies are absolute trash and have no potential of being anything like Washington, Cleveland or Atlanta.

I don't think tanking should be purposely throwing games. But tanking SHOULD be placing emphasis on the players that are guaranteed to be here long term regardless of the wins or losses. We're playing for next season; even management and coach have acknowledged this. That doesn't mean we should forcefully lose or anything, but it does mean that we should be more focused on player development than wins. I want to see the guys we're going to have next year being placed in a position to learn and succeed to the best of their ability and if that leads to wins then so be it.

I loved yesterday's win because Dotson and Knox put the team on their backs late third and early fourth quarter. Mudiay closing out beautifully and Vonleh playing great defense on Giannis most of the night both deserve credit for their performances, but if we're being honest, it makes them less likely to be part of the Knicks future. Same with Burke when he's scoring or even Hezonja if he has break performances. Our future is either adding game changing impact players or using that space to keep guys like Vonleh and Mudiay. We can't do both.

So I'm not saying you play to lose. But I'm saying you play the guys who have futures here without caring whether that leads to wins or losses. The one thing that has me second guessing this take though is how rabid the fanbase gets. You trot out Frank/Dot/Trier/Knox/Mitch and the team is gonna take it's licks, probably worse than it has so far already. The kids will get to sink or swim, which is all I really cared about going into this year but I don't know that the majority of the fanbase could handle that.