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I know nobody wants to see a top 10 pick go to the G-League but it could actually be good for Ntlikina. To gain consistent reps at PG and build confidence against lower level competition. He was labeled a "project" and is only 20 so I don't see the harm, it's a good spot for development.

We've tried him on and off ball, at PG and at SF, we gave him the opportunity to start the first 10+ games of the season and play up to 30+ minutes. It just isn't working out he's benched now, 7 points, 3.4 assists, 34% FG, 28%, 3PT, -10.4 offense in 25 minutes per game, we know the numbers ain't pretty. He just isn't an NBA caliber PG offensively right now.

What y'all think? :mjpls:
 

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Dude has been terrible these super optimistic new age Knicks bloggers try so hard to sugarcoat things. :mjlol:

I honestly think a G-League stint might do him some good at this point.

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Only reason why he might get a little more heat than everyone else is number 1 he was a lottery pick. We went through a whole season of losing to aquire this dude. Trier was underrated and DOT! wasn't even picked in the first round.

Frank was the number 8 pick in the NBA draft averaging 8 points in his second season.

All I will say is I wish him the best.


We got Money Mitch tho :patrice:

True. Do you see him as the full time starter :lupe:?

I don't think Fiz will give him that opportunity.
 
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I know nobody wants to see a top 10 pick go to the G-League but it could actually be good for Ntlikina. To gain consistent reps at PG and build confidence against lower level competition. He was labeled a "project" and is only 20 so I don't see the harm, it's a good spot for development.

We've tried him on and off ball, at PG and at SF, we gave him the opportunity to start the first 10+ games of the season and play up to 30+ minutes. It just isn't working out he's benched now, 7 points, 3.4 assists, 34% FG, 28%, 3PT, -10.4 offense in 25 minutes per game, we know the numbers ain't pretty. He just isn't an NBA caliber PG offensively right now.

What y'all think? :mjpls:
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Frank wasn't drafted to be a project. Stop that talk now. He was drafted because he can help move the ball, fit well in the triangle, and can defend. The issue is Phil isn't here anymore and the current management didn't draft him. So even though he has started the majority of the games and has logged nearly the most minutes Frank hasn't been good in honesty none of those games. He has good shooting form, but really doesn't want to. He can get by his man, but doesn't always try to when the chance is there. he isn't creative with the basketball either. A lot of this is mental and he has said so. He needs to watch a lot of film
 

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So the net results for the starting unit with Frank at PG and Dot at SF were overwhelmingly positive...:ohhh:...perhaps defense DOES make up for offense after all. Sample size is tiny though, I think you'd need to put a spacer in for Vonleh to keep up with the recent defensive adjustments.
 

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Frank wasn't drafted to be a project. Stop that talk now. He was drafted because he can help move the ball, fit well in the triangle, and can defend. The issue is Phil isn't here anymore and the current management didn't draft him. So even though he has started the majority of the games and has logged nearly the most minutes Frank hasn't been good in honesty none of those games. He has good shooting form, but really doesn't want to. He can get by his man, but doesn't always try to when the chance is there. he isn't creative with the basketball either. A lot of this is mental and he has said so. He needs to watch a lot of film
Nonsense.

every single scouting report on Frank said his offense was gonna take years to mold and develop.
 

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Nonsense.

every single scouting report on Frank said his offense was gonna take years to mold and develop.

Yeah the theory was always that his defense would keep him on the court to get enough reps to develop offensively. The problem all of last year and for portions of this year has been that he hasn't been given consistent reps as the primary ball handler. Hornacek played him predominantly with a second PG that handled most of the touches and then Fiz had him playing SF for the first chunk of this season which we're only 15 games into. Frank needs a set role sooner than later if we want his development to speed up and be easier to see.
 

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Nonsense.

every single scouting report on Frank said his offense was gonna take years to mold and develop.
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Frank Ntilikina - The Steady Pro Not as well-known among the casual fan as the college guards, Ntilikina is a high-floor prospect who is destined for, at the very least, a long career as a versatile, two-way player with a high IQ and professional approach to the game. With the physical profile of an NBA two guard (6'6 with a 7-foot wingspan and a projectable frame) and a high motor, Ntilikina projects as a three-position defender who can make a spot up three, play off of closeouts, execute the simple pass while on or off the ball, and use his long strides to slither his way to the rim out of pick and roll. A high character young man by way of Belgium (the son of Rwandan refugees), Ntilikina should be viewed as more of a slow and steady' prospect who isn't likely to provide much wow factor out of the gates like a De'Aaron Fox or Dennis Smith might. While we weren't able to see his full arsenal of skills during his season with Strasbourg, where he played mostly off the ball, Ntilikina showed what he can do on the ball with a huge 2016 U18 European Championships, yet he's still a couple years from having a big offensive impact at the NBA level. U18 European Championship Breakdown: Ntilikina plays somewhat of a calculated game, and he's not all that explosive or shifty with the ball, making it essential that he's brought along slowly on the offensive end, being used as a defender/secondary ball handler in his NBA minutes, while playing strictly on the ball in the D-League. Ntilikina is eventually going to be rock solid in almost any situation, because he's a willing defender with length, possesses a strong feel for the game, has pro experience at the ripe age of 18, and has turned himself into a fairly reliable shooter with time and space. Where Ntilikina may falter is if he's thrust into a huge role as a lead guard early on in his career. Slipping' a bit in the draft may end up benefitting Ntilikina, as he'll likely end up on a more competitive team where he can play a role, as his point guard polish and shot creation continue to develop. Landing in Charlotte and learning from Kemba Walker, fellow Frenchmen Nicolas Batum and well-respected head coach Steve Clifford could provide Ntilikina with the basis he needs, especially considering the Hornets strong relationship with its D-League team in Greensboro. Miami would also be a great place for Ntilikina to grow as his work ethic and approach would be welcomed by Pat Riley and Erik Spoelstra, who run arguably the most regimented organization in the NBA. Playing for one of the top coaches in the NBA and learning from a fellow international guard like Goran Dragic could be a perfect recipe for Ntilikina. Milwaukee is reportedly very high on him as well, but would likely have to move up. - Source: DraftExpress - Breaking Down the 2017 NBA Draft's Loaded Guard Crop ©DraftExpress

DraftExpress - Breaking Down the 2017 NBA Draft's Loaded Guard Crop



Among the top on-ball defenders in this draft, Ntilkina is arguably the most polished point guard in this class on that end of the floor, one of the reasons he was able to play such a significant role at the professional level while still figuring things out offensively. Often picking up more experienced import guards full court, Ntilikina is an intelligent, hard-working defender who gets low, slides his feet, and does a great job cutting off penetration using his anticipation. His length allows him to be a factor in the passing lanes while contesting shots on the perimeter and interior, and even if he needs to get stronger, he figures to be, at the very least, a solid system defender at the next level.

DraftExpress - Frank Ntilikina NBA Draft Scouting Report and Video Analysis

Overall: Ntilikina is undoubtedly one of the best International players of his generation. His elite physical tools and feel for the game, combined with his high upside makes him a really intriguing prospect ... He is not NBA ready just yet, but he has all the tools to become a very good player in the future ...

Frank Ntilikina | NBADraft.net


Frank Ntilikina will be a project worth taking on for the Knicks


Weaknesses: Teams are working off a small, limited sample size, and Ntilikina isn’t the most experienced relative to a lot of guys who make the leap from Europe. He’ll have to adapt to the demands of full time point guard duty and prove he can produce once handed the reins. He’s not extremely explosive and likely won’t be a prolific scorer on a regular basis without marked improvements.
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Many NBA teams did their homework on Ntilikina, watching closely during a season in which he averaged 5.3 points, 1.5 assists and 2.3 rebounds per game for a Strasbourg team that is still in the middle of the French League championship series (Ntilikina will head back to France for Game 5 after getting drafted).

While those statistics may look underwhelming, there are several factors to consider: Ntilikina is a teenager playing against grown men, and he splits time at point guard with veteran Erving Walker. Strasbourg's offense is designed to be an equal-opportunity attack, based on ball movement and spacing.

"If he was on a different team, he would definitely average more points, because right now he's only playing 20 minutes," Travis says. "Those guys in college, they're playing 30-plus minutes, they're getting any shot they want. That's not how we play.

"Coach wants our guards to play structured and controlled -- that's what Frank does."

Teammates also say Ntilikina has grown into a vocal leader on the court, unafraid of telling teammates 10 years his senior when they've made a mistake.

"[Ntilikina] knows how to run a team, how to deal with people in terms of ego and in terms of leadership," Mazet says, describing traits that could be vital for life in the NBA.

Also, NBA evaluators aren't drafting Ntilikina based solely on his production this season. Potential is everything when it comes to draft time.

His frame and athleticism have led scouts to project him as a potential lock-down perimeter defender. Some NBA decision-makers believe his jump shot mechanics can translate well and that he has the potential to be a productive two-way player -- something every team covets.

'The sky's the limit' for NBA draft mystery man Frank Ntilikina
 
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