Last 18/19 NY Knicks season transmission: "F*** all the haters from you to SAS" See y'all in '20

[ProlificLurker]

Trey Burke is a legitimately good player now.He looks like he can be a 17/8 type of guy(with few turnovers) with some talent around him. He wont shoot like he did last year, and if the Knicks lose Beasley and Kanter his numbers will suffer since teams will defend him as a #1 option, but at worst he's still a great stop gap while frank develops and pgs hit free agency. PG is the deepest position by far in the league, and it deflates the value of non elite pg's a good bit, so its the easiest position to find someone serviceable at in case Trey and Frank doesnt work out. Two-way Wing players are the guys who have premium value now.

Not really sold on Trey as a starter (yet), but with next season being another lottery year, I'm sure he'll have ample opportunity to show and prove.

Agreed 100% on the bolded

Long term tho......shoot first, undersized PGs need a lot around them to function properly if they're part of your main core Gotta pair him with a bullish defensive backcourt mate and have a solid rim protecting big to compensate for said undersized guard's weaknesses. And then you still need a two way wing for match up purposes b/c you're right, thats the way of the league right now. Even shytty teams feature a low-level to decent 3&D guy at the wing, w/o a 2-way wing on the squad you're already at a disadvantage

On a competitive/contending team, really believe Burke's proper role is a change of pace, 6th man/scoring guard off the bench. Spot starter/Fringe starter at best. Knicks had a lot of those types on the roster last season...fringe starters that would be coming off the bench for a better team. Kanter, Beasley, Lee, THJr ....Perry/Mills got their work cut out for them this offseason

 

[Wargames]

We have so many guards on the roster..... and not a single SF who could even be considered a high level role player.

Like it would have to be a sure thing to take another PG at 9.

 

[Bobby Lashleys eyebrows]

We have so many guards on the roster..... and not a single SF who could even be considered a high level role player.

Like it would have to be a sure thing to take another PG at 9.

Knicks need another sf/pf. I think Mikal Bridges would be good. If not, go for another big man and use one of our pf as a sf in which I would go for Bamba if he's still available. If we go for a pg it needs to be for an immediate tradeoff only. There are ample enough big men within the top 10 to choose from so I think we're good. Frank will be a 2 guard with a play style like Clay Thompson. I think that's why Fizdale visited golden state, trust me. Burke and Frank will play like Curry/Clay and Mudiay will play like Livingston.

I know it's far fetched but trust me and KP will move to center. They will play small ball and move Lance to PF with Beasley until they find a decent player in the draft. THJ will play SF/SG.

 

[NY's #1 Draft Pick]

Knicks need another sf/pf. I think Mikal Bridges would be good. If not, go for another big man and use one of our pf as a sf in which I would go for Bamba if he's still available. If we go for a pg it needs to be for an immediate tradeoff only. There are ample enough big men within the top 10 to choose from so I think we're good. Frank will be a 2 guard with a play style like Clay Thompson. I think that's why Fizdale visited golden state, trust me. Burke and Frank will play like Curry/Clay and Mudiay will play like Livingston.

I know it's far fetched but trust me and KP will move to center. They will play small ball and move Lance to PF with Beasley until they find a decent player in the draft. THJ will play SF/SG.

No disrespect breh but

 

[Bobby Lashleys eyebrows]

No disrespect breh but

So aight, mind you, I'm a bit hungover...

Do you think the spurs would be decent on the west without Popovich? Coaching is an underrated art to making a team. Some teams have talent and some teams have players that play significant roles. Some teams play small and some teams play big. New York will play a style that's suitable to the players they have which will be small ball until KP and a draft player fully develops. Frank will be a 3 and D, THJ will be a 6th man or small forward depending on who they acquire from the draft. I want Frank to play PG but NY simply has too many PG's to fit into a proper rotational system. I also think Dotson will be heavily utilized at the 2. As long as each player puts up a certain amount of points, plays hard D and gets their teammates open off the PR while performing at a 45% shooting range percentage, the knicks can be very effective on the east. Bruh, when the warriors played the knicks during the season, KD and Steph were giving Burke props. He's our secret weapon. Frank will get better but if you listen to the clues, Fizdale wants him to be more aggressive, he's a 44% shooter but it's only a test. Everyone has to play aggressive or suffer the consequences. Spurs players are only good because they know their roles. The problem with our team is that the previous coach was too soft and he was using vets to play passive ball. Ron Baker will be a motivational bench warmer now that we have a normal coach.

 

[RickyGQ]

 

[DPresidential]

Knicks FO is playing mind games like other smart teams do.

Leaking that the Knicks have a kove affair w/ Young so another team takes him.

 

[Kitsch]

I don't want Young but could Frank & Trae work?

 

[DPresidential]

I don't want Young but could Frank & Trae work?

I think so, if he actually becomes what people think he could.

I still don't prefer him but I'd ride with my draft choice.

We'd get do much hate until he actually bears, though. I don't think I'd be able to handle the Coli onslaught.

 

[ISO]

I think Orlando will draft Trae Young with the 5th overall pick.

I could see him going as high as 3rd with Atlanta picking him, Dennis Shroeder recently requested a trade so it looks like they'll have a hole at PG and they need a franchise cornerstone.

Trae has a lot of holes in his game but Frank is an ideal fit next to him because Trae can hide on defense and have a secondary playmaker and off-ball threat in Frank. He has some weaknesses but his shooting and ability to create shots for himself and others is impressive you have to find a way to maximize his strong points and hide his weaknesses. He'll never be a good defender, he'll never be good off the ball, and he'll probably be around a 55% finisher at the rim at best and trash around the paint if he doesn't develop an elite tear drop/floater. I wonder if he is that good of a shooter because that's what his success is banking on, if he's not he'll be a bust.

 

[Derek Lee]

I don't want Young but could Frank & Trae work?

Yeah. Fits way better than the Sexton-Frank backcourt

 

[Miles Davis]

Show em whose position it is Frank

 

[Ironman]

Let em know Frank Nitty

 

[DPresidential]

I'm sorry if, in some people's opinion, I come off as casual or uneducated, but it's fascinating that elite defense as a true talent isn't something that basketball heads don't place on a pedestal like one dimensional offensive players.

Trading shots has always been a gamblers game to me. Now, yes, if you have Steph, it's not a gamble but it's odd that after Steph's performances have changed the NBA, people are willing to find it realistic that the offensive accuracy that he and Harden exhibit is that discoverable.

*I'm not trying to fight, not trying to be onnsome shots fired shyt. I'm legit coming from a humble place of ignorance. So before y'all come at my neck for this post.

W/ KP, is finding offensive output that's dispersed over a balanced roster not a good strategy when combined w/ elite defense at most positions in your lineup?

I look at this last season and the amount of games I remember losing in the last minutes of the 4th b/c of a lack of shut down shut defense highlights how important defense was considering even w/ a offensively stunted team, we were tradong shot for shot with teams.

I want to learn, brehs. Inform me what I'm missing.

 

[Ironman]

I'm sorry if, in some people's opinion, I come off as casual or uneducated, but it's fascinating that elite defense as a true talent isn't something that basketball heads don't place on a pedestal like one dimensional offensive players.

Trading shots has always been a gamblers game to me. Now, yes, if you have Steph, it's not a gamble but it's odd that after Steph's performances have changed the NBA, people are willing to find it realistic that the offensive accuracy that he and Harden exhibit is that discoverable.

*I'm not trying to fight, not trying to be onnsome shots fired shyt. I'm legit coming from a humble place of ignorance. So before y'all come at my neck for this post.

W/ KP, is finding offensive output that's dispersed over a balanced roster not a good strategy when combined w/ elite defense at most positions in your lineup?

I look at this last season and the amount of games I remember losing in the last minutes of the 4th b/c of a lack of shut down shut defense highlights how important defense was considering even w/ a offensively stunted team, we were tradong shot for shot with teams.

I want to learn, brehs. Inform me what I'm missing.

We need two way players and guys that can hold down multiple positions. Frank offense will come along if he's actually given an opportunity. With experience and training he can without a doubt guard 1-2 spots. We need a big that can hold down the paint and score on the inside especially if KP continues to fight not being the 5. We need a damn 3 that can be there for the forseeable future. People are just caught up because of what the warriors can do but they got lucky and drafted two of the greatest shooters of all time. Even more lucky Durant actually let them recruit him