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So many draft experts these days, did any of them see Donovan Mitchell being this good :francis:

Doesn’t mean Bridges is gonna be just because Mitchell fell through the cracks

Also Mitchell’s explosion and first step are elite level so once his shot came along it was game over.

Bridges has zero elite physical traits or skills..Even his biggest fans admit best case scenario he becomes a good 3 and D player
 

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I think the Knicks should go with the best player available. Drafting someone that's a good fit for our team isn't a good idea. Why? Our team sucks. We don't have a core. We have KP. Period. Frank has not showed he should be part of the long term plan. For those in love with his measurable and advanced stats....they haven't produced any wins or individual overachievement. And also the Knick FO who are around Frank everyday are not sold on him thus the 2 PGs we picked up in season and why Sexton and Young will be in play if they are available. And our 1 core piece hasn't shown much durability. Is he a true alpha? Look at his season ending injury. Like really duke, you tore your acl on THAT play? Knickas land awkwardly everyday, B. And that one wasn't even that bad :francis:
And who's our other so called core piece? THJr? :wtb: Establish your core with a 6th or 7th best player on a good team, brehs.
I realize the whole draft is a crap shoot and all that, but I don't want to see the organization waste another top 10 pick for the second year in a row on a player already projected to have a low ceiling. One year we shooting for a George Hill with more wingspan, than the next we looking for a PJ Tucker with a more consistent outside shot? Come on man. I'm not rolling (Joe Budden voice).
 

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I think the Front Office is enamored by Mudiay, that if they drafted Trey Young ... he wouldn't develop properly.

Frank played well with KP, especially late in games.

Once KP went down and Burke/Mudiay got burn. Frank got lost in the shuffle.

Same thing happened with KP in year 2, he was behind Rose & Melo. When he should have been taking his lumps.

Frank needs to get burn, make mistakes. It'll pay off in the long run. Playing a bum like Mudiay proves nothing
 

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I think the Front Office is enamored by Mudiay, that if they drafted Trey Young ... he wouldn't develop properly.

Frank played well with KP, especially late in games.

Once KP went down and Burke/Mudiay got burn. Frank got lost in the shuffle.

Same thing happened with KP in year 2, he was behind Rose & Melo. When he should have been taking his lumps.

Frank needs to get burn, make mistakes. It'll pay off in the long run. Playing a bum like Mudiay proves nothing
Same thing the year before that when Rambis (he really gone:wow:) and Fisher wasn’t giving burn to Jerian Grant and the other rookies on the bench late in a season that was lost already. These dudes aren’t letting the youth play actual games.
 
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@Youhadasparkwhenustarted what's your take on Kevin Knox, breh? :jbhmm::lupe:

I know one of the biggest knocks (no pun intended) against him is that he's low motor, but perhaps in the right environment & under the right tutelage the best can be brought out of him? :lupe:

Thoughts? :lupe:

Anyone else feel free to answer as well
The motor thing is spot on. He plays kind of timid out there at times, it makes me wonder whether he lacks aggression or if he just knows his strengthens and weaknesses and plays to them, regardless he's gotta learn to give consistent effort. He's not as athletic as I hoped he be, but he's a good, fluid athlete who has good size and covers a lot of ground on defense. Has the makings of a high iq player. He has a decent floater which surprised me but doesn't have much of an offensive game. He'd be another project, he's incredibly young so there's some untapped potential there. Miles recent combine measurements bumped him ahead of Knox though imo.
 

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Measurements for Biggest Names via Bleacher Report

Player: Grayson Allen, SG, Duke
Body Fat: 5.5 percent
Height (without shoes): 6'3"
Weight: 198 pounds
Wingspan: 6'7 ¼"



Player: Mohamed Bamba, C, Texas
Body Fat: 6.2 percent
Height (without shoes): 6'11 ¼"
Weight: 225 pounds
Wingspan: 7'10"



Player: Miles Bridges, SF/PF, Michigan State
Body Fat: 5.9 percent
Height (without shoes): 6'5 ¼"
Weight: 220 pounds
Wingspan: 6'9 ½"



Player: Wendell Carter, PF/C, Duke
Body Fat: 7.8 percent
Height (without shoes): 6'8 ¾"
Weight: 251 pounds
Wingspan: 7'4 ½"



Player: Donte DiVincenzo, G, Villanova
Body Fat: 5.0 percent
Height (without shoes): 6'3 ½"
Weight: 200 pounds
Wingspan: 6'6"



Player: Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, PG/SG, Kentucky
Body Fat: 3.0 percent
Height (without shoes): 6'4 ½"
Weight: 180 pounds
Wingspan: 6'11 ½"



Player: Jaren Jackson, C, Michigan State
Body Fat: 7.2 percent
Height (without shoes): 6'9 ¾"
Weight: 236 pounds
Wingspan: 7'5 ¼"



Player: Kevin Knox, SF/PF, Kentucky
Body Fat: 4.9 percent
Height (without shoes): 6'7 ¾"
Weight: 212 pounds
Wingspan: 6'11 ¾"



Player: Michael Porter, SF/PF, Missouri
Body Fat: 6.4 percent
Height (without shoes): 6'9 ½"
Weight: 211 pounds
Wingspan: 7'0 ¼"



Player: Collin Sexton, PG, Alabama
Body Fat: 5.6 percent
Height (without shoes): 6'0 ½"
Weight: 183 pounds
Wingspan: 6'7 ¼"



Player: Trae Young, PG, Oklahoma
Body Fat: 5.3 percent
Height (without shoes): 6'0 ½"
Weight: 177 pounds
Wingspan: 6'3"

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Trae Young got some short arms brehs, Bamba is a freak and I think is gonna be off the board by 5, Knox has great size but Miles is a lot more skilled.
 

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The motor thing is spot on. He plays kind of timid out there at times, it makes me wonder whether he lacks aggression or if he just knows his strengthens and weaknesses and plays to them, regardless he's gotta learn to give consistent effort. He's not as athletic as I hoped he be, but he's a good, fluid athlete who has good size and covers a lot of ground on defense. Has the makings of a high iq player. He has a decent floater which surprised me but doesn't have much of an offensive game. He'd be another project, he's incredibly young so there's some untapped potential there. Miles recent combine measurements bumped him ahead of Knox though imo.

:scusthov:

He'd be a bad fit here, then. Fans and media would never let him live. You see how they talk about Frank, even on here :smh: Imagine adding another guy that needed years of development in order find out what their ceiling might be. They'd be callin him a bust less than 2 months into the season :mjlol:


I'd be more than ok taking an upside guy over a player that's more "polished"/NBA ready, but the upside guy Id prefer would be less of a boom or bust risk than a project. Use a "project" pick with the 2nd round pick we have
 

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:scusthov:

He'd be a bad fit here, then. Fans and media would never let him live. You see how they talk about Frank, even on here :smh: Imagine adding another guy that needed years of development in order find out what their ceiling might be. They'd be callin him a bust less than 2 months into the season :mjlol:


I'd be more than ok taking an upside guy over a player that's more "polished"/NBA ready, but the upside guy Id prefer would be less of a boom or bust risk than a project. Use a "project" pick with the 2nd round pick we have
If you ain’t showing much 2 months into your nba career then you’re a bust according to coli standards :smugfavre:
 

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If you ain’t showing much 2 months into your nba career then you’re a bust according to coli standards :smugfavre:


Just imagine some of the players Coli GMs would've sent packin their rookie seasons :wow:

Otto Porter Jr :camby:

Gary Harris :camby:

Jrue Holiday :camby:

Paul George :camby:

They might've let Giannis rock into his 2nd season since he had a few :krs: dunks, but they'd end up givin him the :camby: by the trade deadline of his 2nd season :dead:
 

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I think the Knicks should go with the best player available. Drafting someone that's a good fit for our team isn't a good idea. Why? Our team sucks. We don't have a core. We have KP. Period. Frank has not showed he should be part of the long term plan. For those in love with his measurable and advanced stats....they haven't produced any wins or individual overachievement. And also the Knick FO who are around Frank everyday are not sold on him thus the 2 PGs we picked up in season and why Sexton and Young will be in play if they are available. And our 1 core piece hasn't shown much durability. Is he a true alpha? Look at his season ending injury. Like really duke, you tore your acl on THAT play? Knickas land awkwardly everyday, B. And that one wasn't even that bad :francis:
And who's our other so called core piece? THJr? :wtb: Establish your core with a 6th or 7th best player on a good team, brehs.
I realize the whole draft is a crap shoot and all that, but I don't want to see the organization waste another top 10 pick for the second year in a row on a player already projected to have a low ceiling. One year we shooting for a George Hill with more wingspan, than the next we looking for a PJ Tucker with a more consistent outside shot? Come on man. I'm not rolling (Joe Budden voice).
Perfectly said. Posters are hoping beyond hope Frank works out to more than a off the bench NBA journeyman. Mitchell was another star we missed on. Take the best player available like I said a few pages back
 

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Perfectly said. Posters are hoping beyond hope Frank works out to more than a off the bench NBA journeyman. Mitchell was another star we missed on. Take the best player available like I said a few pages back
Sure take the best player available but only if he's much better than what you currently have. If a point guard is the best player available at 9 but only marginally better than Frank then that's a waste of a pick.

"Hoping beyond hope" also known as developing a player :camby:
 
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