Last 18/19 NY Knicks season transmission: "F*** all the haters from you to SAS" See y'all in '20

[ProlificLurker]

Yeah. Zion will be the number one overall pick by draft time. The more I watch tape on him and the other guys the more apparent it becomes that he’s the only guy in this draft whose different.

I think he can score more than advertised. Seems like he can get you 20 points off grab and gos, monstrous offensive board work, power low post moves, P&R, and can drive it into the chest and get to the rim against anyone who sags off, C&S looked good too.

Duke basketball gonna be a must watch this year for all Knicks fans

His jump shot is a lil mechanically unorthodox tho, he'll need to improve that

 

[RickyGQ]

I think they can keep Burke, Mudiay is one that has to go. Not sure about Mario, I haven't done the math since they signed him. LT would be waived, and I think it comes down to if they can move Lee.

Also here is Fiz talking about Randle, cause I am not the only one who thinks breh is severely underrated.



Starters
Frank
Timmy
Knox
Randle
KP

Bench
Burke
Cam/RJ/Romeo/Grimes/
Dotson
Mario
Mitch

Breh that they type roster I like to see go to war with Philly/Boston/Bucks because of all the mismatches that would be in the Knicks favor.


They young but by 2020-2021 they would be War Ready.

Bruh, we were talking about guys like Randle and Jabari as potential targets for this summer since January. I like Randle alot but there are guys way better that we are gonna target next summer first. If we swing and miss on those and have to settle for Randle i wouldn’t be upset at all. He’s why i think a lot of people are sleeping in the Pelicans this year.

Now the question is, what you paying for him?

 

[RickyGQ]

Or....consider this.....instead of potentially overpaying for Randle...why not draft his turbo charged version in Zion instead and have him cost controlled on a rookie scale contract for the next 4-5 years

Frank
Tim
Knox
Zion
KP

2nd unit:

Burke
Dotson
Bring back Troy Will/some vet minium deal
Bring back Mario or Voneleh depending on whose the better value/bang for your buck or another (young) reclamation project or vet min player
Mitch

so either

Burke
Dot
Troy Will/Vet Min Player/Another young reclamation project
Mario
Mitch

Or

Burke
Dot
Troy Will/Vet Min deal/Another young reclamation project
Voneleh
Mitch

Or the cheapest version:

Burke
Dot
Troy Will/Vet Min/Another young reclamation project
Vet Min/Cheap young reclamation project
Mitch



Excellent starting 5, decent bench that doesn't cost too much and whose spare parts can be moved around/dealt for better fitting pieces/upgrades, if need be. I fukks with it

Still got big money this FA for at least close to 1 max guy.

Yeah. Zion will be the number one overall pick by draft time. The more I watch tape on him and the other guys the more apparent it becomes that he’s the only guy in this draft whose different.

I think he can score more than advertised. Seems like he can get you 20 points off grab and gos, monstrous offensive board work, power low post moves, P&R, and can drive it into the chest and get to the rim against anyone who sags off, C&S looked good too.

Duke basketball gonna be a must watch this year for all Knicks fans

The thing that’s gonna propel him to number one is the fact that he’s gonna look like a man among boys. If he just dominates college ball physically it’s gonna be hard to ignore.

 

[010101]

imagine tryna muscle through a whole nba season



my knickas gotta be some finnessers

we talking buckets for a 20 year stretch



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[ProlificLurker]

Still got big money this FA for at least close to 1 max guy.



The thing that’s gonna propel him to number one is the fact that he’s gonna look like a man among boys. If he just dominates college ball physically it’s gonna be hard to ignore.

If we aren't able to unload Lee, we'd be close to but not quite at a full max slot and I dont think anyone is willing to give us a discount, even a minimal one.

Would have to take a look at the second tier guys at that point like Kemba Walker, Julius Randle, Khris Middleton, Myles Turner, etc, etc

 

[Wargames]

Bruh, we were talking about guys like Randle and Jabari as potential targets for this summer since January. I like Randle alot but there are guys way better that we are gonna target next summer first. If we swing and miss on those and have to settle for Randle i wouldn’t be upset at all. He’s why i think a lot of people are sleeping in the Pelicans this year.

Now the question is, what you paying for him?

I just don't like the age/injury histories of all the big 2019 names besides KD and Klay. Then add the fact that getting someone like Kyrie, Butler, or even Kawhi means we got to speed up the process to try and be competitive against the warriors in there prime years to justify the money..... and I just don't think its something that the knicks could pull off. Speeding up the timetable means ditching some of the youth. Now if the Knicks pull KD or Klay in 2019 FA, then the warriors become that much more human and it makes sense to be in a position to trade some youth to go for a third piece to challenge the warriors. On the flip KD and Klay seem like the most likely of all the 2019 FA to stay where they are at.

Then look at the Lakers who will be looking to add a second star to Lebron. Also, the Clippers and Nyets both got enough money for 2 Max FA and probably could jettison enough of their roster to make room for a 3rd. I just don't like the odds of the Knicks being the marquee FA spot in 2019. The Knicks will still be a young rebuilding team, Even if KP comes back early, I don't think he's gonna play well enough to be a major draw since he should be on minute restrictions for a month or two. It just doesn't seem ideal for a star to come.

As for how much I would offer Randle, It would be about 18 - 20 if he puts up the same stats as he did last year. Aaron Gordon is a slightly better player due to his 3pt shot range and he makes 21 mil a year. With the rest, of the cap I would try to keep any current player on the roster that showed they deserved it like Burke, Mario, Ron, Mudiay. Also its a bit crazy but I would love the Knicks to throw an offer at Danny Green to come in and be the old head for the youth and to help with all of their development.

Is it big name flashy, FA plan? Nope.

Does it put the Knicks in line to be a team that is as much a challenger to be next top dog as the Celtics, Philly, Bucks, and the Suns?Yes!

I still say in this Current Big 4 Warriior world all any team can do is try to get stars to make money (Lakers, Raptors, etc), or go young and wait to get at the warriors as they start to fall off in the next few years.

 

[RickyGQ]

I just don't like the age/injury histories of all the big 2019 names besides KD and Klay. Then add the fact that getting someone like Kyrie, Butler, or even Kawhi means we got to speed up the process to try and be competitive against the warriors in there prime years to justify the money..... and I just don't think its something that the knicks could pull off. Speeding up the timetable means ditching some of the youth. Now if the Knicks pull KD or Klay in 2019 FA, then the warriors become that much more human and it makes sense to be in a position to trade some youth to go for a third piece to challenge the warriors. On the flip KD and Klay seem like the most likely of all the 2019 FA to stay where they are at.

Then look at the Lakers who will be looking to add a second star to Lebron. Also, the Clippers and Nyets both got enough money for 2 Max FA and probably could jettison enough of their roster to make room for a 3rd. I just don't like the odds of the Knicks being the marquee FA spot in 2019. The Knicks will still be a young rebuilding team, Even if KP comes back early, I don't think he's gonna play well enough to be a major draw since he should be on minute restrictions for a month or two. It just doesn't seem ideal for a star to come.

As for how much I would offer Randle, It would be about 18 - 20 if he puts up the same stats as he did last year. Aaron Gordon is a slightly better player due to his 3pt shot range and he makes 21 mil a year. With the rest, of the cap I would try to keep any current player on the roster that showed they deserved it like Burke, Mario, Ron, Mudiay. Also its a bit crazy but I would love the Knicks to throw an offer at Danny Green to come in and be the old head for the youth and to help with all of their development.

Is it big name flashy, FA plan? Nope.

Does it put the Knicks in line to be a team that is as much a challenger to be next top dog as the Celtics, Philly, Bucks, and the Suns?Yes!

I still say in this Current Big 4 Warriior world all any team can do is try to get stars to make money (Lakers, Raptors, etc), or go young and wait to get at the warriors as they start to fall off in the next few years.

Wouldn’t be mad at all at your plan. But i disagree that you have to go all in with Kyrie for example. We should be competitive right away and contenders within 2-3 years when Knox matured into that legit 3rd piece.

 

[ProlificLurker]

I just don't like the age/injury histories of all the big 2019 names besides KD and Klay. Then add the fact that getting someone like Kyrie, Butler, or even Kawhi means we got to speed up the process to try and be competitive against the warriors in there prime years to justify the money..... and I just don't think its something that the knicks could pull off. Speeding up the timetable means ditching some of the youth. Now if the Knicks pull KD or Klay in 2019 FA, then the warriors become that much more human and it makes sense to be in a position to trade some youth to go for a third piece to challenge the warriors. On the flip KD and Klay seem like the most likely of all the 2019 FA to stay where they are at.

Then look at the Lakers who will be looking to add a second star to Lebron. Also, the Clippers and Nyets both got enough money for 2 Max FA and probably could jettison enough of their roster to make room for a 3rd. I just don't like the odds of the Knicks being the marquee FA spot in 2019. The Knicks will still be a young rebuilding team, Even if KP comes back early, I don't think he's gonna play well enough to be a major draw since he should be on minute restrictions for a month or two. It just doesn't seem ideal for a star to come.

As for how much I would offer Randle, It would be about 18 - 20 if he puts up the same stats as he did last year. Aaron Gordon is a slightly better player due to his 3pt shot range and he makes 21 mil a year. With the rest, of the cap I would try to keep any current player on the roster that showed they deserved it like Burke, Mario, Ron, Mudiay. Also its a bit crazy but I would love the Knicks to throw an offer at Danny Green to come in and be the old head for the youth and to help with all of their development.

Is it big name flashy, FA plan? Nope.

Does it put the Knicks in line to be a team that is as much a challenger to be next top dog as the Celtics, Philly, Bucks, and the Suns?Yes!

I still say in this Current Big 4 Warriior world all any team can do is try to get stars to make money (Lakers, Raptors, etc), or go young and wait to get at the warriors as they start to fall off in the next few years.

Nice lil plan

Just be careful with the Danny Green signing....no more than a 2 yr deal at most. Any longer than that and its the Courtney Lee situation all over again, solid 3-n-D vet who provides decent enough production but not quite enough to justify his (overpriced) contract and is on the wrong side of 30

 

[OsO]

I never understood the dislike for Lee. He's the second best player on the team (maybe you could argue Kanter).

Ya'll should have that same energy for Tim. He is literally STEALING money.

 

[Miles Davis]

I never understood the dislike for Lee. He's the second best player on the team (maybe you could argue Kanter).

Ya'll should have that same energy for Tim. He is literally STEALING money.

There’s no hate for Lee, just he’s not on our timeline and the money and position he’s taking up could useful. Also, I’m a big critic of Tim. I don’t think he’s worth his contract at all and believe he’s no more than a sixth man.

 

[ProlificLurker]

I never understood the dislike for Lee. He's the second best player on the team (maybe you could argue Kanter).

Ya'll should have that same energy for Tim. He is literally STEALING money.

Dont dislike Lee, he just doesn't fit our timeline and he's slightly overpaid.

Plus out of all our big money guys he should be the easiest to move w/o having to accept someone else's junk, should be able to net us a 2nd rd pick or expiring contract (probably not both tho)

Timmy is overpaid, sure. But he fits our timeline age wise, still young enough to improve (by how much idk), and when you compare him to other players making similar money (18-20 mill range), THJr either outproduces them or his #s are on par with said similarly salaried players. His issues are consistency and efficiency. Not expecting any miracles, but I do believe Fiz is gunna bring the best outta Tim and put him in situations that allow him to flourish

 

[ISO]

The way he’s attacking is reminiscent of a 2009 LeBron or 2011 D-Rose

That hop step dunk splitting the two defenders was insane

 

[RickyGQ]

The way he’s attacking is reminiscent of a 2009 LeBron or 2011 D-Rose

That hop step dunk splitting the two defenders was insane

He’s a fukking tank.

 

[RickyGQ]

 

[ProlificLurker]

Cautiously optimistic...............

Sidenote: Think he'd fit really, really well with the Sixers. With the Wiz he'd be a productive player on the court and a stabilizing force in the locker room, though Im sure it'll start to wear on him after awhile being the only adult in the room, head coach included