Lamar is a ring away from being dead even with Mahomes...

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This is a fact, and Patrick Mahomes is still better than Lamar Jackson and has proven so during their time in the league. This thread is predicated on some shyt that’s has not even happened yet, which is Lamar winning a ring. Well the facts are he hasn’t won shyt and Pat has won several. Yall just trying to force him to be equal to or better than Mahomes when he simply has not proven he is
He has proven it he has 2 mvps. Just because mahomes gets to have one of the greatest coaches ever, greatest tight end ever and top 5 defenses ever year don’t make him better. If you have them trade teams those raven teams don’t Win nearly as many games with Patrick as they do with Lamar
 

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He has proven it he has 2 mvps. Just because mahomes gets to have one of the greatest coaches ever, greatest tight end ever and top 5 defenses ever year don’t make him better. If you have them trade teams those raven teams don’t Win nearly as many games with Patrick as they do with Lamar

So we using MVP’s a a measuring stick when Patrick has 2 MVPs as well and 3 Super Bowl MVPs?

Patrick Mahomes has been to 4 super bowls, won 3, and was named MVP in all three he won. As well he has 2 regular season MVPs. Lamar Jackson has 2 MVPs and never went to a Super Bowl. Patrick Mahomes is by far the best player in his team.

Again, what are we talking about here? The very thought of Lamar being better is preposterous. Lamar is great. He not better than Patrick Mahomes nikka.
 

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So we using MVP’s a a measuring stick when Patrick has 2 MVPs as well and 3 Super Bowl MVPs?

Patrick Mahomes has been to 4 super bowls, won 3, and was named MVP in all three he won. As well he has 2 regular season MVPs. Lamar Jackson has 2 MVPs and never went to a Super Bowl. Patrick Mahomes is by far the best player in his team.

Again, what are we talking about here? The very thought of Lamar being better is preposterous. Lamar is great. He not better than Patrick Mahomes nikka.
Sure we have different opinions that’s fine. It’s I don’t include superbowls because again it’s a team accomplishment. And again if you put Patrick on the ravens they aren’t nearly as successful as they have been. Lamar been both the qb and rb for years till this year
 

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Sure we have different opinions that’s fine. It’s I don’t include superbowls because again it’s a team accomplishment. And again if you put Patrick on the ravens they aren’t nearly as successful as they have been. Lamar been both the qb and rb for years till this year

I respect your opinion and I think Lamar is great, but it’s apparent we’re just gonna have to agree to disagree
 

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Can I ask what do you feel makes him better mvps and super bowls aside

Hes been to 4 Super Bowls, won 3, and won theee Super Bowl MVPs, as well as 2 regular season MVPs. All while being the best player on his team.

In comparison Lamar Jackson has never been to a Super Bowl.

This my last post on the shyt as I’ve already agreed to disagree. I’m not going back and forth about this shyt forever. It was a good debate, but neither one of us was gonna convince the other to change their stance. It’s nothing else to be said unless you wanna keep talking in circles
 

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Hes been to 4 Super Bowls, won 3, and won theee Super Bowl MVPs, as well as 2 regular season MVPs. All while being the best player on his team.

In comparison Lamar Jackson has never been to a Super Bowl.

This my last post on the shyt as I’ve already agreed to disagree. I’m not going back and forth about this shyt forever. It was a good debate, but neither one of us was gonna convince the other to change their stance. It’s nothing else to be said unless you wanna keep talking in circles
Ight breh you right because you just keep bringing up super bowls and shyt
 

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Ight breh you right because you just keep bringing up super bowls and shyt
Super bowls dont matter :dahell:



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He has proven it he has 2 mvps. Just because mahomes gets to have one of the greatest coaches ever, greatest tight end ever and top 5 defenses ever year don’t make him better. If you have them trade teams those raven teams don’t Win nearly as many games with Patrick as they do with Lamar

Hypotheticals and feelings. They don't mean shyt to anyone in sports outside of the fan that wishes their guy or team was was on the other end of a losing scoreboard.
 

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Ight breh you right because you just keep bringing up super bowls and shyt
The Super Bowls matter, dog...

Lamar was a full time starter in '19, so to me, the comp is simple...

From 2019-22, a 4-year stretch, Mahomes was the better player. In those 4 years, Mahomes went 2-1 in Super Bowls, 3-1 in the AFCCG, and was simply a more developed and consistent player, by a pretty wide margin. In that same span of time, Lamar lost the ends of two consecutive seasons to injury, never got out of the Divisional round, and was just an inferior quarterback...

The past two seasons, 2023-24, another gear flipped and Lamar has ascended. He's been better than Mahomes two consecutive regular seasons. This postseason remains to be seen, but in their only H2H last year, Lamar choked (again), and was outplayed by Mahomes...

The entire premise of this thread, is that Lamar is a ring away from being right there with Mahomes, and its because this isnt a ring counting exercise. So for me it ain't about, "well this guy won more"...

Lamar's impact and dominance on the sport is at legendary levels without a ring. Stylistically they play differently, but watching Lamar manipulate defenses and control games is equal to the best I've seen from Pat----->in the regular season. He's obviously never done it in the postseason, so that's what's missing from the resume, as is Lamar is already a Top 20 All-Timer...

He can't pass Mahomes with ine ring and one hot run, which is why I never once said in here, "he leaps over Mahomes with a ring".....because he doesn't, not with one.

But if Lamar gets this f'in title, a real watch begins. Both are less than 10 years in The League, so in theory there's a LOT of career left for both of em. If he gets this ring, having already elevated his play to Mahomes level, having won the most MVPs in "Mahomes era", having more 1st Team All-Pros in the "Mahomes era", a real watch is on...

Regardless of what the critics of this board say, NFL people are telling you how closely they regard the two when one guy has never made a Super Bowl, the other guy has won 3 of 4 SB appearances, and the guy with 0 SB appearances has more MVPs, 1st Team All-Pros, and tied in All-Pros period. The guy with 0 SB runs also has two lost years to injury, while the guy with all the rings hasn't had a single year cut short yet....

So NFL people are watching Mahomes' dominance and are telling you how close they think the two are, regardless of how mf's here act like the gap today is as wide as it was 3+ years ago...

But the first thing is, he gotta win this championship. He'll remain behind Mahomes until he gets one, and fall further behind if Mahomes keeps winning. But as is, Lamar has closed the gap between he and Mahomes more than any other quarterback...
Since we got enough black QBs in the league now that I no longer have to stan for Mahomes.

Lamar>Mahomes
🤣 so you stanned the white man, Mahomes? The only white QB I stan is Goff...
 
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