Lakers Moving LeBron to the Starting Point Guard Position.

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Literally inventing your own deranged alternate worlds and cosigning each others' mental illness because you cant handle reality.

This is why I compare you guys to Trump supporters, yall on the same shyt. Alt right losers like Paul Nehlen love to accuse random people they dont like of being pedos on twitter. You're on that too.

Society is in trouble.
Or maybe it was your father that disowned you:ohhh:
 

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U HAVE NO SAY ON SOCIETY WHEN U AINT CONTRIBUTING SHIIT FUCCBOY.

ALL U DO IS EAT UP THE RESOURCES, GO TO SLEEP, RINSE + REPEAT.

THEN U THINK U CAN MASK YOUR SHORTCOMINGS WIT A PRETENTIOUS ATTITUDE LIKE MOST FAGOTS DO.

SEE THROUGH ASS MUFUCCA.
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NAAH, THIS IS FOREAL......WHAT HAVE U DONE FOR THIS WORLD, GAYBOY?

PUSHIN 40 WIT NO KIDS IS A BAD LOOK FOR SOME1 WHO SITS ON HIS ASS AND SUCKS LEBRON'S DICC ON INTERNET FORUMS 24/7 AROUND THE CLOCK.
 

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Bron can't really break down defenses like how a true pg can. He is just a locomotive bullying himself down the lane and you have people collapse. I don't like this idea of him being pg. You really need a guard that can cross somebody over and get inside to be successful like curry, kyrie, lillard, vintage rose.
Listen,
I know you must be young because you are leaning real heavy on pgs crossing guys up in order to get to the rack. So this may be a first for you. In basketball there are multiple ways to get to the basket.

#1 Just run to the rack(beat your man off the dribble with a mean first step, or if the defender is too close lower that shoulder and push thru him until you get that first step or 2nd step on the defender.

you can also catch a guy on your hip at the top and spin off of the defender then head to the basket.

lastly, you can pass it to a post up player right next to the basket.

You believe a crossover is necessary to get to the rack...it isnt. It looks good. we love to see dem ankles about to blow up. but aside from that its not necessary vs most defenders.
a dude gets to close to you and you attack one of his feet. its that simple. basketball 101 for dribble driving. I'm 100 years old, flabby and sick. with injuries. Give me a basketball right now, I can have on a full steve harvey suit, and blow by a 18 year old super quick known defender. Thats because if that guy gets to close to me. its curtains. Its just physics. You can't stand too close to the guy you're defending because defense is about anticipation and the defender is always slower (back peddling) and at a disadvantage vs the offensive guy cause he doesnt know if you're going to shoot, drive right, drive left, spin, cross, pass. he has to guess. if you dont give yourself room as a defender to guess a little incorrectly. if you guess wrong or dont guess perfectly right. you will get burned. sure some super athletic long defenders have the ability to catchup and recover to block your shot or bother it. but that aint solid defense. solid defense is staying in front of your man. I dont need a fancy Kyrie shake and bake to get by a dude thats standing to close. its not necessary, it just looks pretty.

Lebron james dribble drive game is not pretty most times . never has been. he's a big bull thats as quick as most SG's. he can finish with either hand and he can go hard right or hard left with either hand. thats all you need. lay that bron shoulder on you if you're a solid defender and blow thru you. sure the ref will call the occasional charge but bron has rarely had those called on him his entire career. i use to hate watching him ram into people for no calls. but it is what it is at this point in his career. Lastly, there's a reason people like the idea of BIG guards. they can see over the top of the defense and see things that a dame and kyrie can't.



and who said you have to penetrate to the basket to dish it everytime? you can do that from the high post, mid post, low post and on the wings. you dont have to just dribble from the top and penetrate then kick out.
 

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Bron can't really break down defenses like how a true pg can. He is just a locomotive bullying himself down the lane and you have people collapse. I don't like this idea of him being pg. You really need a guard that can cross somebody over and get inside to be successful like curry, kyrie, lillard, vintage rose.
I see what you’re saying but the reality is Lebulldozer ain’t changing his game. This announcement was for clicks.
 

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Listen,
I know you must be young because you are leaning real heavy on pgs crossing guys up in order to get to the rack. So this may be a first for you. In basketball there are multiple ways to get to the basket.

#1 Just run to the rack(beat your man off the dribble with a mean first step, or if the defender is too close lower that shoulder and push thru him until you get that first step or 2nd step on the defender.

you can also catch a guy on your hip at the top and spin off of the defender then head to the basket.

lastly, you can pass it to a post up player right next to the basket.

You believe a crossover is necessary to get to the rack...it isnt. It looks good. we love to see dem ankles about to blow up. but aside from that its not necessary vs most defenders.
a dude gets to close to you and you attack one of his feet. its that simple. basketball 101 for dribble driving. I'm 100 years old, flabby and sick. with injuries. Give me a basketball right now, I can have on a full steve harvey suit, and blow by a 18 year old super quick known defender. Thats because if that guy gets to close to me. its curtains. Its just physics. You can't stand too close to the guy you're defending because defense is about anticipation and the defender is always slower (back peddling) and at a disadvantage vs the offensive guy cause he doesnt know if you're going to shoot, drive right, drive left, spin, cross, pass. he has to guess. if you dont give yourself room as a defender to guess a little incorrectly. if you guess wrong or dont guess perfectly right. you will get burned. sure some super athletic long defenders have the ability to catchup and recover to block your shot or bother it. but that aint solid defense. solid defense is staying in front of your man. I dont need a fancy Kyrie shake and bake to get by a dude thats standing to close. its not necessary, it just looks pretty.

Lebron james dribble drive game is not pretty most times . never has been. he's a big bull thats as quick as most SG's. he can finish with either hand and he can go hard right or hard left with either hand. thats all you need. lay that bron shoulder on you if you're a solid defender and blow thru you. sure the ref will call the occasional charge but bron has rarely had those called on him his entire career. i use to hate watching him ram into people for no calls. but it is what it is at this point in his career. Lastly, there's a reason people like the idea of BIG guards. they can see over the top of the defense and see things that a dame and kyrie can't.



and who said you have to penetrate to the basket to dish it everytime? you can do that from the high post, mid post, low post and on the wings. you dont have to just dribble from the top and penetrate then kick out.

Not on 2K19 got dammit. Try dribbling against Kawhi on Hall of Fame and end up wanting to break your controller :francis:
 

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Yeah, Kobe shooting 23 times/game in the 2004 Finals while Payton and Malone only got 5-6 shots/game each, that was 100% the triangle offense. Kobe having career-long issues with being a ballhog or the Pistons openly goading Kobe into freezing out his teammates and then bragging about it afterwards, that certainly had nothing to do with it.

:comeon:

If you really believe there's a reality where the Ron Artests/Dwight Howards/Gary Paytons of the world maintain their scoring average when joining Kobe's team as the 3rd option, if only coaching hadn't gotten in the way, then I guess you're free to believe that.

I mean, when Tex Winter was standing on the sidelines screaming to pull Kobe from the game because he was breaking the offense, I'm sure it was just Tex's way of sharing how well Kobe was fitting the triangle. :childplease:
again you dont get it.

The triangle offense the way phil likes to run it, especially with an older gp was not made for gp to be a scorer like he actually was. the reason GP and malone came is because they saw the lakers lose to the spurs the previous year. Timmy schooled our PF as usual and Tony and them went to work on us. it was kobe and shaq darn near by themselves once the spurs realized just sit on fish and not watch him shoot. its not like he's about to take you off the dribble. the triangle doesnt want that from that pg spot. or i should say Phil's triangle didnt want that with shaq and kobe in the lineup.

you think its all kobe. it aint. watch how gp looked and malone looked(pre injury, you do realize he ended his career due to that knee injury he sustained before the finals. malone was at 50% if that in that finals series. and everyone on the team knew it. so you cant go to him like you normally would. he was more of a decoy at that point. )

go watch some highlights when gp and kobe were balling it up when shaq was out hurt or rehabbing some previous issue early in the season. GP was scoring like regular GP. Phil wasnt crying to GP about playing the perfect spot up triangle pg roll...YET. and then we got into the playoffs. Even vs the spurs when we barely won. GP and phil were butting heads like crazy because GP was like Ay this is the reason i came. i see yall need a more dynamic pg that can set guys up as we as score not just from 3's either. Phil wanted no parts of that. So by the time the finals came. GP was relegated to fisher status. problem is, fisher had years to adapt to it and thrived in that role. gp was not a set shooter or a catch and shoot guy. his 3's were suspect. he could hit them but that was when he was rolling all around scoring wise. There was a statement that billups made while they were in the finals. and he said its weird going up against his favorite legend(GP) and watching him not be able to go back at him because of their offense. he was talking about the triangle. not kobe hot dogging.

i'm not saying kobe aint never hot dogged a play or 5. lol. we all know super scorers will shoot too much at times. But that wasnt the issue this time around. it was 80% phil's triangle and 20% kobe jackups mixed in with malone was hurt.

Phil jackson use to jerk Smush parker around the same way. Smush as much as we laker fans clown him. he could score. now he was a suspect floor general. but a pretty good scoring pg. phil almost hated him when he would score. phil never looked happy when smush would go off. he would ball out on monday and if they had a game on wednesday phil would get on him about ball movement and floor spacing. once again code word for be like fisher, stand in your spot move the ball around the without many dribbles and be ready to catch and shoot if need be. This is why Ron harper didnt like the triangle at first. he was a natural scorer. the only reason Ron sucked it up was due to him coming off of a bad injury and he was no longer the scorer he once was and jordan/pippen were just flat out better than him at this point post injury ron.
 

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Lebron is on his 3rd different team and 4th switch. He has never had the luxury of having a talent like pippen be drafted to a team under him with 3-4 years to help guide and mold him into reaching his potential. Lebron has also never played for great coaches like Phil and Pop. Odom, Bynum, Gasol and them didn't get better "under Kobe", they got better under Phil. Before the lakers begged Phil to come back kobe wasn't doing sit with the lakers but threatening to leave trying to force a trade to get more help. Kobe wanted to trade Bynum for an old Jason Kidd. The greatness of Phil in that last lakers repeat was that he was able to build a championship team around a guy who would routinely break the offense to play hero ball. Phil had to regularly plead with kobe to stop gunning his teammates out and to allow them to play with him but now you want to revise history and say kobe made them better? You don't understand the game.

I wasnt giving Kobe credit for the players that came up under him but was saying that there are players that came up under him. You cant say that with Lebron. Im talking about good players. Not scrubs (relatively because all of them are great at their craft) being made better.

This is a lie. Bosh was always a finesse player. He was always more of a face up jump shooting big rather than a post player who could dominate on the block. He went from 20-9 and nothing past the 1st round in Toronto to 18-7 and 2 rings with lebron in Miami. Same thing with Love. He was always a finesse jump shooting big man who went from being a volume shooter featured on a mediocre team to a role player on a championship contending team. The idea that he and bosh weren't allowed to post up because of lebron is a blatant lie. Those guys didn't post up a lot because it wasn't there strength. When they were effective in the post they were allowed to eat. Just go back and look at that '18 cav-raps playoff series where the raps tried to guard love with cj miles and lebron basically force fed him in the post because he had an advantage. Love vs avg nba 4 in the post is basically a wash. You're literally making up lies just to support your false narrative.

Chris Bosh on playing with Lebron:
"“Yeah, it’s a lot more difficult taking a step back, because you’re used to doing something a certain way and getting looks a certain way. And then it’s like, well, no, for the benefit of the team, you have to get it here.”

You know and I know they were turned into strictly spot up shooters. They werent allowed to post or play the elbow because that doesnt fit Lebron's game. Deny it all you want but the proof is in the pudding.

You tell blatant lies. The cavs won 50 games in Lebron's 3rd year and made it to the 2nd round. The cavs won 17 game the year before lebron got there and he lifted them to 35 wins in his first season, 42 wins in his second season. Yes, it's a huge difference. Clown poster.

Typo. Meant to say Lebron's first two years in regards to Kyrie's three which is why I mentioned, sarcastically, there being a huge difference. And I have post history to show that I know this distinction if you think Im lying :coffee:

Of course facts don't matter and are irrelevant to clowns who troll-post. Harden took damn near 7 more shots than paul in their first year together and twice as many shots a shot paul last year. That comparison doesn't work. You look stupid claiming that lebron holds the ball for 20 seconds of the shot clock then say the proof pricing you wrong is irrelevant. Lebron is nowhere near as ball dominant and selfish as you claim he is. You're lying because you're an emotional feminine troll who has no integrity. You're only concerned with saying anything that makes you feel better.
:snoop: Is CP a shoot first PG? Of course not. He'll NEVER take as many shots as Harden. Never has, never will. So when he could be taking a shot, he's most likely instead, getting an assist. Lazy logic by you but thats expected.

Its sad that you have grown men this emotionally involved in a sport that they benefit NONE from. I'll NEVER respect Harden or Bron's game. I hope they get every dollar +1 they want to get. Hope they take care of their families. Hope they get to live a long life and take care of their children. But I do not respect the way they play the game. Thats not hating, thats not trolling, thats an OPINION. The Lebron James system always places him at the center and forces everything to work around him. Its never a system (except in Miami) where he is a piece to a puzzle. NEVER. And when they try to put him in a system (Blatt/Walton) he rebuffs it... Its the same story everytime. That is why I dont respect his game.You dont have to agree with it, but to call me a troll just shows that you're too emotionally involved for this shyt..
 

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kevin love took the same amount of threes with Minnesota.. the difference.. is.. they didnt let him post up as much but its more because he got exposed more than anything... when he went to a team that mattered and defense showed up against him..he shrunk.. was getting blocked, stripped..

without lebron he played the same in cleveland... being a spot up shooter is his best value cuz he sucks.

BS. You cant tell me someone can do something as a number 1 option but all of a sudden become irrelevant as a third option based on defense. Maybe based on rhythm, but not based on what the defense is doing.

But even with that said, I may slide off Love because I do remember there being reports about him losing weight in his first or second year in Cleveland so maybe that had something to do with him moving more outside. But Bosh? Nah. He was great working from the elbow but mainly got relegated to being a three and D PF playing with Bron.
 
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