Lakers Moving LeBron to the Starting Point Guard Position.

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Ron Artest wasn't even the 3rd option on the Lakers you stupid fakkit. If LO wasn't there Ron would've averaged more points dumbazz

edit: and by the way you stat cac, i dont care that Ron averaged .2 more ppg and shot .6 more shots than LO per game. Phil ran that team through Kobe, Pau and LO.
I'm done responding to this dude. He clearly doesnt know wtf he is talking about. Using a washed Ron artest and a washed Gary payton as talking points to prove Kobe hinders players? :francis: you can tell dude just stays on basketball-reference all day.
 

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Lamar and Gasol have both gone on record explaining how Kobe elevated their games. I mean shyt, even without them saying it, it shouldve been obvious to anyone who actually watched them play. Kobe and Pau had amazing chemistry. You're whole post is full of lies. Bosh has gone on record to explain how he had to change his game to fit bron. It is a FACT that Love and Bosh had to fundamentally alter their games. There are stats that prove this, and if you continute to spew the bullshyt your typing I will pull them and destroy any argument you come up with.
I didn't tell 1 lie. Odom and pau can go on record and say whatever they want. Whatever they have said or will say in the future bigging up kobe doesn't refute anything that I said. They weren't playing under kobe's system. They were playing under phil and tex's system. Phil has talked in depth about his struggles tryna get kobe to be less selfish and more trusting of teammates. Those are facts not lies.

Here's Phil talking about an incident before Shaq left in his own words:

The incident after which Jackson dreamed of giving Kobe a whack came following a February loss to the San Antonio Spurs, Los Angeles falling in a beatdown, 105-81.

It was the Lakers' worst loss of the season, smack dab in the middle of a cold patch for the Lakers, in which the team lost four out of five games.

"You can't be a selfish player and make this offense work for the team's good. Period." When I opened the floor to comments, there was complete silence, and I was about to adjourn the meeting when Shaq spoke up. He got right to the point, saying, "I think Kobe is playing too selfishly for us to win." That got everyone fired up. Some of the players nodded in support of Shaq, including Rick Fox, who said, "How many times have we been through this?" No one in that room came to Kobe's defense. I asked him if he had anything to say. Kobe finally addressed the group, and in a calm, quiet voice he said he cared about everyone and just wanted to be part of a winning team.

I wasn't pleased with the meeting. I worried that having everyone's complaints on the table without any resolution would have a negative effect on team harmony. In the days that followed, we lost four out of five games, including a 105-81 "massacre" by the Spurs in the Alamodome. One night that week I had a dream about spanking Kobe and giving Shaq a smack. "Shaq needs and Kobe wants -- the mystery of the Lakers," I wrote in my journal.


Phil Jackson Once Dreamt About Spanking Kobe Bryant
Again, I'm not even hating on kobe but I'm not going to pretend as if he hasn't always been seen as a selfish ball hog who gunned teammates out. I bring this up because the same group of losers shytting on lebron and "bron ball" are the same ones who never had any criticism for kobe, arguably the most selfish player seen as an atg by some in league history. The same people who think Lebron's game is too selfish dikkride the player wth the most missed shots in NBA history. A player who's own coach has documented the struggles that he had getting him to be less selfish. That doesn't add up.

And of course love and bosh had to alter their games. They went from 1st options on mediocre teams to 3rd options on championship teams. Why the fukk would their games not have to be altered going from featured players to role players? They won rings with lebron and didn't sniff the second round of the playoffs on their own(love never even made the playoffs before lebron), so it's utterly stupid to try and use them as an argument that they regressed with lebron.
 

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Missed a comma there, you walking disappointment. :dead:


DIFFERENCE = IM NOT TRYIN ... I REALIZE THIS IS A FORUM AND THAT IT SHOULD BE TREATED AS SUCH.

U, ON THE OTHER HAND, GOT YOUR HEAD SO FAR UP YOUR GAY ASS THAT I WOULDNT BE SURPRISED IF U HAD GRAMMERLY PROOFREADING YOUR REPLIES BEFORE YOU POST THEM.

YOUR SON STILL THINKS YOURE A FLAMER BTW.
 

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DIFFERENCE = IM NOT TRYIN ... I REALIZE THIS IS A FORUM AND THAT IT SHOULD BE TREATED AS SUCH.

U, ON THE OTHER HAND, GOT YOUR HEAD SO FAR UP YOUR GAY ASS THAT I WOULDNT BE SURPRISED IF U HAD GRAMMERLY PROOFREADING YOUR REPLIES BEFORE YOU POST THEM.

YOUR SON STILL THINKS YOURE A FLAMER BTW.
The ramblings of a mental patient
 

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I can't belive people on here are still spreading the narrative that LeBron turned Bosh into a 3-point shooter when it's been pointed out multiple times that BOSH HIMSELF said he chose to shoot more 3's and actually had to tell LeBron to start looking for him beyond the arc :snoop:
 

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I can't belive people on here are still spreading the narrative that LeBron turned Bosh into a 3-point shooter when it's been pointed out multiple times that BOSH HIMSELF said he chose to shoot more 3's and actually had to tell LeBron to start looking for him beyond the arc :snoop:
So what was it that Bosh was saying about Lebron to Kevin Love when he was mentioning that he has to prepare to change his game?
 
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