Lakers Moving LeBron to the Starting Point Guard Position.

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Mo Williams made his only all-star appearance after he joined LeBron. Kyrie had the best seasons of his career with LeBron and all his postseason success came with LeBron, he talks about playing with LeBron wistfully now. Bosh and Wade both had the best-shooting seasons of their career with LeBron even though they had fewer attempts cause they were the #2 and #3 options, Bosh added a three and a defensive presence to his game. JR Smith, TT, Shump, Delly, Mosgov all got big contracts due to their increased production playing alongside Bron. Shane Battier, Ray Allen, Kyle Korver, James Jones, Chris Anderson, Mike Miller, Rashard Lewis, Richard Jefferson, Channing Frye, Jose Calderon and Jeff Green all extended their career and looked good doing it with Bron. Drew Gooden, Delonte West, Mario Chalmers, Norris Cole, Boobie Gibson, Sasha Pavlovic, JJ Hickson, and Joel Anthony all looked their best with Bron.




You don't understand the difference between a 2nd option and a 3rd option. What happened to Ron Artest when he went to the Lakers with Kobe? What happened to Dwight Howard? You had Karl Malone and Gary Payton as 20ppg scorers the season before they joined Kobe, what happened?

Pau was a 2nd option on the Lakers. A high-volume 2nd-option can work just fine with a star - look at Wade, look at Kyrie. It's stupid to compare 2nd options to 3rd options when the exact same thing happened to 3rd options on the Kobe Lakers.

Especially dumb because Pau did drop in production when he joined the Lakers and even Shaq suffered having to play alongside Kobe. Kobe never let another player on his team shoot or handle the ball nearly as much as LeBron let Wade and Kyrie do it.




LeBron brought the Cavs from 17 wins without him to a 42-40 winning record by his 2nd season. They were at 50-32 in his 3rd season and took the champ Pistons to 7 in the ECSF. So you lied.




You have to be completely clueless to claim that. It's not at all how LeBron played in Miami - there was a ton of ball movement there. And LeBron had the ball less than Kyrie in Cleveland. And LeBron was 78th in the league in average time of possession last year.

You just exposed yourself as knowing nothing except what you pick up from Coli hot takes.

even though you are correct in your assessment. you are incorrect about why when it comes to kobe and his teammates production. that was due to the triangle offense. gary payton was playing with one arm tied behind his back in the triangle offense. because Phil only wants his pg's to be floor spacers, not big time ball handlers or scorers. GP has never been a spot up shooter in his life. Kobe's job was that of pippen's and jordans. be the primary perimeter scoring threat and the primary floor general.

 

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no he shouldnt start. he is not respected as a shooter even though he shoots a lot better than he use to. doesnt matter. the purpose of shooters is to #1 spread the floor. meaning attract defenders. #2 hit open shots.
rondo can't do#1 because they dont believe in his shooting.

lastly, Bron will run point like he has his entire career. he will run point on offense and guard the SF on defense. avery bradley can easily guard pg's. green can easily guard sg's.

RONDO SHOT 36% FROM THREE LAST YEAR ON A CAREER HIGH 3.1 ATTEMPTS.......AND WIT ALL THE OTHER SHOOTERS ON THE COURT, IT DOESNT REALLY MATTER. RONDO CAN STILL BALL.

 

[G-Zeus]

RONDO SHOT 36% FROM THREE LAST YEAR ON A CAREER HIGH 3.1 ATTEMPTS.......AND WIT ALL THE OTHER SHOOTERS ON THE COURT, IT DOESNT REALLY MATTER. RONDO CAN STILL BALL.

his problem is when he shoots it...

he passes on open shots a lot..

 

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his problem is when he shoots it...

he passes on open shots a lot..

NOT LAST YEAR

 

[G-Zeus]

NOT LAST YEAR

oh fukk yeah he did..dude wa splaying hot potatoe for real...

pass off the pass...most reason he was shooting is cause they left him wide open a lot.. i he was taking them if they disrespected... but not when he got the ball on the line.

 

[Sccit]

oh fukk yeah he did..dude wa splaying hot potatoe for real...

pass off the pass...most reason he was shooting is cause they left him wide open a lot.. i he was taking them if they disrespected... but not when he got the ball on the line.

HE WAS ATTEMPTING THREES REGULARLY LAST YEAR ...... AND KNOCKIN EM DOWN

 

[G-Zeus]

HE WAS ATTEMPTING THREES REGULARLY LAST YEAR ...... AND KNOCKIN EM DOWN

thats not what i argued against.. i argues he attemped them on his term... not thorugh a play or designed play...

when he got a pass.. he drove... when he had the ball o run point and they left him open (which happened a fukk lot) he shot it.

all season he was left wide open

 

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even though you are correct in your assessment. you are incorrect about why when it comes to kobe and his teammates production. that was due to the triangle offense. gary payton was playing with one arm tied behind his back in the triangle offense. because Phil only wants his pg's to be floor spacers, not big time ball handlers or scorers. GP has never been a spot up shooter in his life. Kobe's job was that of pippen's and jordans. be the primary perimeter scoring threat and the primary floor general.

Yeah, Kobe shooting 23 times/game in the 2004 Finals while Payton and Malone only got 5-6 shots/game each, that was 100% the triangle offense. Kobe having career-long issues with being a ballhog or the Pistons openly goading Kobe into freezing out his teammates and then bragging about it afterwards, that certainly had nothing to do with it.



If you really believe there's a reality where the Ron Artests/Dwight Howards/Gary Paytons of the world maintain their scoring average when joining Kobe's team as the 3rd option, if only coaching hadn't gotten in the way, then I guess you're free to believe that.

I mean, when Tex Winter was standing on the sidelines screaming to pull Kobe from the game because he was breaking the offense, I'm sure it was just Tex's way of sharing how well Kobe was fitting the triangle.

 

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thats not what i argued against.. i argues he attemped them on his term... not thorugh a play or designed play...

when he got a pass.. he drove... when he had the ball o run point and they left him open (which happened a fukk lot) he shot it.

all season he was left wide open

DIDNT REALLY NOTICE A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HIM AND SAY A CP3 LAST YEAR... MY POINT IS THAT HE GOT WHAT IT TAKES TO BE A STARTING PG

 

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Yeah, Kobe shooting 23 times/game in the 2004 Finals while Payton and Malone only got 5-6 shots/game each, that was 100% the triangle offense. Kobe having career-long issues with being a ballhog or the Pistons openly goading Kobe into freezing out his teammates and then bragging about it afterwards, that certainly had nothing to do with it.



If you really believe there's a reality where the Ron Artests/Dwight Howards/Gary Paytons of the world maintain their scoring average when joining Kobe's team as the 3rd option, if only coaching hadn't gotten in the way, then I guess you're free to believe that.

I mean, when Tex Winter was standing on the sidelines screaming to pull Kobe from the game because he was breaking the offense, I'm sure it was just Tex's way of sharing how well Kobe was fitting the triangle.

WHO GAVE MISS FABER A COLI ACCOUNT?

 

[G-Zeus]

DIDNT REALLY NOTICE A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HIM AND SAY A CP3 LAST YEAR... MY POINT IS THAT HE GOT WHAT IT TAKES TO BE A STARTING PG

FUKK NAH... FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUK NAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

why you hate the lakers so much??? dude defense was non-existant....


CP played decent defense last year... he is just not worth his contract...

if players leaves him to defend the paint.. your fukking up AD's whole mojo.. now he has to fight double teams

 

[Sccit]

FUKK NAH... FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUK NAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

why you hate the lakers so much??? dude defense was non-existant....


CP played decent defense last year... he is just not worth his contract...

if players leaves him to defend the paint.. your fukking up AD's whole mojo.. now he has to fight double teams

CATS WASNT STR8 UP LEAVIN HIM TO DEFEND THE PAINF LMAO, WHAT THE HELL ARE U WATCHIN BRUH?

 

[G-Zeus]

CATS WASNT STR8 UP LEAVIN HIM TO DEFEND THE PAINF LMAO, WHAT THE HELL ARE U WATCHIN BRUH?

Rajon Rondo

4-6 Feet - Open 22.7%

6+ Feet - Wide Open 29.9%


52.6% of his shots were open or wide open.....

 

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Rajon Rondo

4-6 Feet - Open 22.7%

6+ Feet - Wide Open 29.9%


52.6% of his shots were open or wide open.....

THAT DOESNT MEAN THEYRE FLAT OUT LEAVING HIM TO GUARD THE PAINT LOLSMH

 

[G-Zeus]

THAT DOESNT MEAN THEYRE FLAT OUT LEAVING HIM TO GUARD THE PAINT LOLSMH

So why sagged off ur man if its not to double others getting to the basket?

Find one intelligent reason why more than 50% of the time he is open....