Lakers Moving LeBron to the Starting Point Guard Position.

[Illin Degenerate]

to me this is only surprising if theyre going with a lineup of lebron green kuzma and two bigs. thats the only lineup that forces almost every opponent to put their shooting guard on either kuzma or lebron. if you start lebron at "pg" but have 2 other guards on the floor with him then the matchups are no different than they've always been when lebron runs the offense.

we'll see if that big lineup becomes a reality, sure you wont be able to hide both kuzma and lebron but they may be banking on their superior size and the fact theres a mismatch in their favor on the other end. at the very least it can be effective in spurts imo.

 

[wizworld]

If this works it should lengthen his career.

 

[Gravity]

Man you can come with all the excuses you want, but no one has gotten better under Lebron. Pau Gasol, Andrew Bynum, and Lamar Odom got better under Kobe. Pippen got better under Jordan. Ginobli, Tony Parker, and Kawhi got better under Duncan? You cant even name one good player that got better under Lebron

Lebron is on his 3rd different team and 4th switch. He has never had the luxury of having a talent like pippen be drafted to a team under him with 3-4 years to help guide and mold him into reaching his potential. Lebron has also never played for great coaches like Phil and Pop. Odom, Bynum, Gasol and them didn't get better "under Kobe", they got better under Phil. Before the lakers begged Phil to come back kobe wasn't doing sit with the lakers but threatening to leave trying to force a trade to get more help. Kobe wanted to trade Bynum for an old Jason Kidd. The greatness of Phil in that last lakers repeat was that he was able to build a championship team around a guy who would routinely break the offense to play hero ball. Phil had to regularly plead with kobe to stop gunning his teammates out and to allow them to play with him but now you want to revise history and say kobe made them better? You don't understand the game.

And bosh/love were relegated to being spot up shooters. They weren’t even allowed to regularly be themselves. Yea I call that regression. On the flip side Pau went to PA and still got to be Pau. They didn’t stand him on he 3pt line so that Kobe could get his..

This is a lie. Bosh was always a finesse player. He was always more of a face up jump shooting big rather than a post player who could dominate on the block. He went from 20-9 and nothing past the 1st round in Toronto to 18-7 and 2 rings with lebron in Miami. Same thing with Love. He was always a finesse jump shooting big man who went from being a volume shooter featured on a mediocre team to a role player on a championship contending team. The idea that he and bosh weren't allowed to post up because of lebron is a blatant lie. Those guys didn't post up a lot because it wasn't there strength. When they were effective in the post they were allowed to eat. Just go back and look at that '18 cav-raps playoff series where the raps tried to guard love with cj miles and lebron basically force fed him in the post because he had an advantage. Love vs avg nba 4 in the post is basically a wash. You're literally making up lies just to support your false narrative.

By the way, Kyrie missed the playoffs his first 3 years while Lebron missed his first 3. Huge difference right?

You tell blatant lies. The cavs won 50 games in Lebron's 3rd year and made it to the 2nd round. The cavs won 17 game the year before lebron got there and he lifted them to 35 wins in his first season, 42 wins in his second season. Yes, it's a huge difference. Clown poster.

Irrelevant who took more shots. That means that Lebron shared with someone else to do lebron ball just as Harden shared with CP3 two years ago. It changes nothing about the only style he can play in. Or the only style he’s willing to play in which is one on one so he can score or get an assist. It’s the same way Harden and Westbrook play EXCEPT Lebron is better and more efficient at it

Of course facts don't matter and are irrelevant to clowns who troll-post. Harden took damn near 7 more shots than paul in their first year together and twice as many shots a shot paul last year. That comparison doesn't work. You look stupid claiming that lebron holds the ball for 20 seconds of the shot clock then say the proof pricing you wrong is irrelevant. Lebron is nowhere near as ball dominant and selfish as you claim he is. You're lying because you're an emotional feminine troll who has no integrity. You're only concerned with saying anything that makes you feel better.

 

[CACarot]

Bron can't really break down defenses like how a true pg can. He is just a locomotive bullying himself down the lane and you have people collapse. I don't like this idea of him being pg. You really need a guard that can cross somebody over and get inside to be successful like curry, kyrie, lillard, vintage rose.

 

[Karume]

It's a lie like it always is
Bron Ball will always be run because that's the way he stat pads

Cosign! Nobody wants someone who likes to pass

 

[Dr. Narcisse]

Bron can't really break down defenses like how a true pg can. He is just a locomotive bullying himself down the lane and you have people collapse. I don't like this idea of him being pg. You really need a guard that can cross somebody over and get inside to be successful like curry, kyrie, lillard, vintage rose.

They don't have anyone at that level anyway

Rondo is a negative on the floor with LeBron so this is their way of balancing out the roster.

 

[G-Zeus]

Bron can't really break down defenses like how a true pg can. He is just a locomotive bullying himself down the lane and you have people collapse. I don't like this idea of him being pg. You really need a guard that can cross somebody over and get inside to be successful like curry, kyrie, lillard, vintage rose.

if the guard is small.. what your saying is true.. if the guard is big he can pretty much back his defender something like kobe used to do when he ran point..

it created a massive mismatch because if you try to help one play will automatically be free and you know that vertical spacing is really not a problem with lakers...neither is floor spacing.

 

[Dwight Howard]

Lebron is on his 3rd different team and 4th switch. He has never had the luxury of having a talent like pippen be drafted to a team under him with 3-4 years to help guide and mold him into reaching his potential. Lebron has also never played for great coaches like Phil and Pop. Odom, Bynum, Gasol and them didn't get better "under Kobe", they got better under Phil. Before the lakers begged Phil to come back kobe wasn't doing sit with the lakers but threatening to leave trying to force a trade to get more help. Kobe wanted to trade Bynum for an old Jason Kidd. The greatness of Phil in that last lakers repeat was that he was able to build a championship team around a guy who would routinely break the offense to play hero ball. Phil had to regularly plead with kobe to stop gunning his teammates out and to allow them to play with him but now you want to revise history and say kobe made them better? You don't understand the game.

This is a lie. Bosh was always a finesse player. He was always more of a face up jump shooting big rather than a post player who could dominate on the block. He went from 20-9 and nothing past the 1st round in Toronto to 18-7 and 2 rings with lebron in Miami. Same thing with Love. He was always a finesse jump shooting big man who went from being a volume shooter featured on a mediocre team to a role player on a championship contending team. The idea that he and bosh weren't allowed to post up because of lebron is a blatant lie. Those guys didn't post up a lot because it wasn't there strength. When they were effective in the post they were allowed to eat. Just go back and look at that '18 cav-raps playoff series where the raps tried to guard love with cj miles and lebron basically force fed him in the post because he had an advantage. Love vs avg nba 4 in the post is basically a wash. You're literally making up lies just to support your false narrative.

You tell blatant lies. The cavs won 50 games in Lebron's 3rd year and made it to the 2nd round. The cavs won 17 game the year before lebron got there and he lifted them to 35 wins in his first season, 42 wins in his second season. Yes, it's a huge difference. Clown poster.

Of course facts don't matter and are irrelevant to clowns who troll-post. Harden took damn near 7 more shots than paul in their first year together and twice as many shots a shot paul last year. That comparison doesn't work. You look stupid claiming that lebron holds the ball for 20 seconds of the shot clock then say the proof pricing you wrong is irrelevant. Lebron is nowhere near as ball dominant and selfish as you claim he is. You're lying because you're an emotional feminine troll who has no integrity. You're only concerned with saying anything that makes you feel better.

Lol at having the audacity to say anyone doesnt know the game after all this bullshyt you just wasted your time typing. Lamar and Gasol have both gone on record explaining how Kobe elevated their games. I mean shyt, even without them saying it, it shouldve been obvious to anyone who actually watched them play. Kobe and Pau had amazing chemistry. You're whole post is full of lies. Bosh has gone on record to explain how he had to change his game to fit bron. It is a FACT that Love and Bosh had to fundamentally alter their games. There are stats that prove this, and if you continute to spew the bullshyt your typing I will pull them and destroy any argument you come up with.

 

[THE MACHINE]

Bron can't really break down defenses like how a true pg can. He is just a locomotive bullying himself down the lane and you have people collapse. I don't like this idea of him being pg. You really need a guard that can cross somebody over and get inside to be successful like curry, kyrie, lillard, vintage rose.

Its gonna be pnr(pop) with Boogie/McGee. He'll get the switch to a center guarding him at the top. He'll go downhill and finish at the rim, lob to AD, throw for a corner 3 (Green/Cook) or pocket pass to Boogie for a 15 footer.

 

[Cladyclad]

Kuzma gon Ball out I’m telling y’all

 

[SuavePrince]

This will only help the Lakers just watch

 

[Karume]

Its gonna be pnr(pop) with Boogie/McGee. He'll get the switch to a center guarding him at the top. He'll go downhill and finish at the rim, lob to AD, throw for a corner 3 (Green/Cook) or pocket pass to Boogie for a 15 footer.

Another option is LeBron pass to the side for the inside look. If AD doesn't have good position he can back screen for LeBron to post. If that isn't open then pnr.

A lot depends on if the Lakers run a 1 or 2 man top

 

[Dwight Howard]

Mo Williams made his only all-star appearance after he joined LeBron. Kyrie had the best seasons of his career with LeBron and all his postseason success came with LeBron, he talks about playing with LeBron wistfully now. Bosh and Wade both had the best-shooting seasons of their career with LeBron even though they had fewer attempts cause they were the #2 and #3 options, Bosh added a three and a defensive presence to his game. JR Smith, TT, Shump, Delly, Mosgov all got big contracts due to their increased production playing alongside Bron. Shane Battier, Ray Allen, Kyle Korver, James Jones, Chris Anderson, Mike Miller, Rashard Lewis, Richard Jefferson, Channing Frye, Jose Calderon and Jeff Green all extended their career and looked good doing it with Bron. Drew Gooden, Delonte West, Mario Chalmers, Norris Cole, Boobie Gibson, Sasha Pavlovic, JJ Hickson, and Joel Anthony all looked their best with Bron.




You don't understand the difference between a 2nd option and a 3rd option. What happened to Ron Artest when he went to the Lakers with Kobe? What happened to Dwight Howard? You had Karl Malone and Gary Payton as 20ppg scorers the season before they joined Kobe, what happened?

Pau was a 2nd option on the Lakers. A high-volume 2nd-option can work just fine with a star - look at Wade, look at Kyrie. It's stupid to compare 2nd options to 3rd options when the exact same thing happened to 3rd options on the Kobe Lakers.

Especially dumb because Pau did drop in production when he joined the Lakers and even Shaq suffered having to play alongside Kobe. Kobe never let another player on his team shoot or handle the ball nearly as much as LeBron let Wade and Kyrie do it.




LeBron brought the Cavs from 17 wins without him to a 42-40 winning record by his 2nd season. They were at 50-32 in his 3rd season and took the champ Pistons to 7 in the ECSF. So you lied.




You have to be completely clueless to claim that. It's not at all how LeBron played in Miami - there was a ton of ball movement there. And LeBron had the ball less than Kyrie in Cleveland. And LeBron was 78th in the league in average time of possession last year.

You just exposed yourself as knowing nothing except what you pick up from Coli hot takes.

Goddamn what an awful post. Where to start? First you start by naming a bunch of role players that got overpaid cause of bron as if most role players from championship teams dont get overpaid. That's usually why they leave the team in the first place, cause you have dumb teams trying to latch on to championship DNA. That's why the Lakers overpaid Danny green this summer.

Then you ask what happened to Ron artest? like wtf does this even mean? Artest was nearly washed when he joined the Lakers. He was viewed as an inferior replacement for Ariza at the time, cause Houston overpaid him after the 09 title.

What happened to dwight Howard? did you not watch the season? The nikka got his touches but refused to play within the system. Dude was still hurt and had Steve nash of all people calling him out for refusing to play within the PNR sets.

Shaq suffered playing with Kobe? He had his best seasons in the league with Kobe.


Pau Gasol production slipped? Pau reached his peak in LA. Pau never made an All-NBA team until he joined the Lakers. All of his All-NBA selections were playing with the Lakers, tf are you talking about?

And PLEASE, I beg you to name 1 player that Kobe has played with that shouldve been allowed to handle the ball in the same capacity as wade and kyrie. Who are these players? Derek Fisher? Smush parker? Lamar Odom? Who are these playmakers? I'll wait.



Look you might be able to get away the long-form paragraphs with less informed posters but you know damn well what you typed up here is some bullshyt.

 

[10bandz]

Lol at having the audacity to say anyone doesnt know the game after all this bullshyt you just wasted your time typing. Lamar and Gasol have both gone on record explaining how Kobe elevated their games. I mean shyt, even without them saying it, it shouldve been obvious to anyone who actually watched them play. Kobe and Pau had amazing chemistry. You're whole post is full of lies. Bosh has gone on record to explain how he had to change his game to fit bron. It is a FACT that Love and Bosh had to fundamentally alter their games. There are stats that prove this, and if you continute to spew the bullshyt your typing I will pull them and destroy any argument you come up with.

Goddamn what an awful post. Where to start? First you start by naming a bunch of role players that got overpaid cause of bron as if most role players from championship teams dont get overpaid. That's usually why they leave the team in the first place, cause you have dumb teams trying to latch on to championship DNA. That's why the Lakers overpaid Danny green this summer.

Then you ask what happened to Ron artest? like wtf does this even mean? Artest was nearly washed when he joined the Lakers. He was viewed as an inferior replacement for Ariza at the time, cause Houston overpaid him after the 09 title.

What happened to dwight Howard? did you not watch the season? The nikka got his touches but refused to play within the system. Dude was still hurt and had Steve nash of all people calling him out for refusing to play within the PNR sets.

Shaq suffered playing with Kobe? He had his best seasons in the league with Kobe.


Pau Gasol production slipped? Pau reached his peak in LA. Pau never made an All-NBA team until he joined the Lakers. All of his All-NBA selections were playing with the Lakers, tf are you talking about?

And PLEASE, I beg you to name 1 player that Kobe has played with that shouldve been allowed to handle the ball in the same capacity as wade and kyrie. Who are these players? Derek Fisher? Smush parker? Lamar Odom? Who are these playmakers? I'll wait.



Look you might be able to get away the long-form paragraphs with less informed posters but you know damn well what you typed up here is some bullshyt.

Leave those fakkits alone breh.....the deranged bullshyt they're typing up.....as I always say, even Bron wouldn't approve

 

[rapbeats]

I DONT LIKE IT TBH

RONDO SHOULD START

no he shouldnt start. he is not respected as a shooter even though he shoots a lot better than he use to. doesnt matter. the purpose of shooters is to #1 spread the floor. meaning attract defenders. #2 hit open shots.
rondo can't do#1 because they dont believe in his shooting.

lastly, Bron will run point like he has his entire career. he will run point on offense and guard the SF on defense. avery bradley can easily guard pg's. green can easily guard sg's.