Ladies I Have A Very Important Dating Question To Ask...

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That's why I said that was a good point you brought up early. If she invites you out which more and more women are doing in this day and age where they make the first move then you could do dutch but if you ask her out maybe then it's best you pay.

At the same time I don't feel a man should let her pay the whole thing if you just getting to know her. Then I would feel like a bytch lol.
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If I were a guy first date would be cheap, coffee and a walk, maybe add a slice of cake, a walk and ice cream, I wouldn't spend any more than that. BUT definitely pay.

If she's engaging enough, interesting enough, worth the effort then maybe go out to eat and because he'd paid the first time she should feel obligated to contribute somehow to the cost of the second date.

I could respect that if it goes that way but the problem is some women wouldn't want to pay for that second date. They want free meals out here and then then the guy pays for the meal, bought her shrimp, lobster and the whole nine and he never even got a whiff of the draws. I know relationships and dates are not just about sex but spending a whole lot of money and the questions is your spending money for what after awhile. Like I said if two people are kicking it for awhile then it understandable for a man to spend some good money every now and then and take his woman out but in new relationships it's not the right move imo. It's an easy way to become a sucker.

it depends on the woman I've encountered all these scenarios
Woman refuse to let me pay for her meal, We agreed to go dutch,She payed, and, I was expected to pay.

The only time I was expected to pay was when I asked them out. Some girls wouldn't mind picking up the check for me.

Dang they refused to let you pay? Well I do remember one chick I was talking too, she had me eating hallal food out a truck but anyway, she refused to let me buy her a Snapple and tried to pay for mine. It was awkward as fukk :hhh:

Its all a farce, old heads were indoctrinated to "pay first because you're the man" on some 40-50's sexist tip. And now try to justify by saying its "manly" or the "right" thing to do. When I think about all the simps who came out of pocket for a broad who was gonna leave em with a mean case of dry dikk and blue balls, I always chuckle.

Simple enough; Be awesome, be agendaless, be gone. Not only is the tactic fool proof, its free. First dates should be based around personalities and seeing if yours match, not who's footing the bill. We all want sex, no need to hide it behind some false sense of chivalry.

Lmao facts, these women now a days will use a man for a free meal and while he think cause he coming out of pocket he is gonna get some he was wrong. He end up going straight to pornhub at the end of the night. DENIED! :mjlol:

I agree with you man. It all comes from old traditions but that don't make it right and to me it's not the best way to go about things. Try to find a connection and go from there but to be paying and simping is no good especially with the way things are now a days.
 

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So if you go on an inexpensive date why can't she still put up her own bread. It should be easier for her to pay. :gucci: You mean to tell me if I take a girl out for coffee or some shyt she can't put up her own bread? I don't feel that makes a bad first impression tbh bro.
But you're not trying to make a good impression on YOURSELF breh. :snoop:

SMH @ asking a question but not wanting to accept the answers.

Just look at the first date as an investment.
 

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Stop being cheap and just take a bytch to a 2 for $20. If you cant put up $10 for date, you shouldnt be dating.

:hhh:Of course I could but my question is more so why should a man do it when he doesn't even know the woman like that. He is trying to get to know her.
But you're not trying to make a good impression on YOURSELF breh. :snoop:

SMH @ asking a question but not wanting to accept the answers.

Just look at the first date as an investment.
I'm listening to the answer but my question is how does it make a good impression. For all you know she could be looking at you and going oh yeah, this is a sucker lol.

Your personality can make a good impression but how does paying for the first date make a good impression. Again, that just tradition that it's a good thing to do but I'm honestly asking, How does it make a good impression?
 

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:hhh:Of course I could but my question is more so why should a man do it when he doesn't even know the woman like that. He is trying to get to know her.

I'm listening to the answer but my question is how does it make a good impression. For all you know she could be looking at you and going oh yeah, this is a sucker lol.

Your personality can make a good impression but how does paying for the first date make a good impression. Again, that just tradition that it's a good thing to do but I'm honestly asking, How does it make a good impression?
It's less that it makes a good impression and more that not doing it makes a bad impression IMO.
 

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If I'm expected to pay for myself, then I'll spend that time with my friends. At least no one at the table will complain about the price of food, or the total amount of the check.

I consider myself to be a genuine person who doesn't need to use a man for free food. It's just food, for goodness sakes. I can cook. I don't NEED to trick a man to feed me.

If a man cannot see that my intentions are pure, that's his problem and he needs to not waste my time. Thankfully, I have yet to have this issue.
 

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If I'm expected to pay for myself, then I'll spend that time with my friends. At least no one at the table will complain about the price of food, or the total amount of the check.

I consider myself to be a genuine person who doesn't need to use a man for free food. It's just food, for goodness sakes. I can cook. I don't NEED to trick a man to feed me.

If a man cannot see that my intentions are pure, that's his problem and he needs to not waste my time. Thankfully, I have yet to have this issue.
I respect that but you're in the minority. You must not know how some women move now a days.
 

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Another thing that has to be noted - you, as a man, shouldn't be dating if you're not in a financial position to date. If you're worried about paying for dates and dinners, then you're probably not in the financial position to be worried about being in relationships or trying to date in the first place. :yeshrug: Spoken from personal experience.
 

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Regardless of changing social standards there are associations that aren't going anywhere. Men=providers/protectors, women=Looks/sex/nurturers.
This is what the opposite is attracted to and both groups think that the opposite sex not fulfilling those roles means they don't respect them.

A woman who doesn't put her best foot forward appearance wise or who doesn't cultivate femininity for the man in her life is judged as not respecting the man she is with.

Likewise a man unwilling to provide (and provision is tied to money) or protect the woman he is with is considered to not respect the woman.

Why? Because there IS somebody that woman and that man WILL do those things for, so if they are unwilling to do those things for you it means they not into you.
 

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I respect that but you're in the minority. You must not know how some women move now a days.
Actually, no I am not in the minority. If all you are coming across are women who are using you for food (:mjlol:), it's time to take a hard look at yourself and figure out how to improve your vetting process. It's not hard to figure out if a woman isn't really interested if you do more than just text her and like a few of her IG pics. Pick up the phone, call her. If she is barely speaking and not very engaging, you will figure out your answer.

Why? Because there IS somebody that woman and that man WILL do those things for, so if they are unwilling to do those things for you it means they not into you.

I absolutely agree with this, which is why I wouldn't waste my time with someone who feels I need to prove I am worth something as simple as food.
 

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Another thing that has to be noted - you, as a man, shouldn't be dating if you're not in a financial position to date. If you're worried about paying for dates and dinners, then you're probably not in the financial position to be worried about being in relationships or trying to date in the first place. :yeshrug: Spoken from personal experience.


Who said I can't pay for a date though. It's not about an inability to pay but it's the principal. This women is a stranger and so why should I be paying for her meal on the first date. Sure I'm trying to get to know her but at the same time if she pays for her own food and you pay for your own food it makes it easier to get to know her and your not getting used like a sucker for a meal :yeshrug:

Regardless of changing social standards there are associations that aren't going anywhere. Men=providers/protectors, women=Looks/sex/nurturers.
This is what the opposite is attracted to and both groups think that the opposite sex not fulfilling those roles means they don't respect them.

A woman who doesn't put her best foot forward appearance wise or who doesn't cultivate femininity for the man in her life is judged as not respecting the man she is with.

Likewise a man unwilling to provide (and provision is tied to money) or protect the woman he is with is considered to not respect the woman.

Why? Because there IS somebody that woman and that man WILL do those things for, so if they are unwilling to do those things for you it means they not into you.

How you know there is somebody that is willing to do it? Why you think some of these women and even some men die old and alone :lolbron:

50 percent of marriages end in divorce and many people end up being alone. Maybe they should have went dating dutch in the beginning, just a thought.
 
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