Kyrsten Sinema Went to Washington & Became a Monster

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Sinema is probably the best bet for Arizona. If she was primaried, that person would likely go on to lose to the Republican candidate.

I'm not sure if a split vote works in anyone's favor.

She has high unfavorable ratings with EVERYONE now. She isn’t the best bet for anything. She is a losing bet on any ticket.
 

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These two things do not relate.

Taking out a sitting Senator or House member in favor of someone else in the primary can have bad consequences and actually help the other party win the seat. MAGA cost the GOP several seats doing this and Progressives have cost Dems seats doing this too.
This is an oversimplification of electoral politics as being a bad candidate particularly in a general can also cost you your seat regardless if there was a primary or not which she admittedly realizes she is ..hence her defection.
 
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This is an oversimplification of electoral politics as being a bad candidate particularly in a general can also cost you your seat regardless if there was a primary or not which she admittedly realizes she is ..hence her defection.
Is Arizona a purple state? Yes. Kari Lake barely lost the election. A moderate Republican would have got the independent voted needed to win. The reason why Dems have been winning is partly because Republicans nominee awful candidates who turn off Independents and a few reasonable Republicans.
 

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Is Arizona a purple state? Yes. Kari Lake barely lost the election. A moderate Republican would have got the independent voted needed to win. The reason why Dems have been winning is partly because Republicans nominee awful candidates who turn off Independents and a few reasonable Republicans.
Except for the fact that Arizonians had the option of Martha McSally as the moderate republican you claim would have won yet she lost twice to Sinema and Kelly back to back lol …”Moderate Republicans” do not drive enthusiasm in Arizona clearly


The reality is Kyrsten is not Kari Lake …Kari tethered herself to trumpism and he’s still quite popular in conservative circles …the moderate republicans have been losing primary after primary because of that fact … the Kari Lake/Trump enthusiast will never find anything appealing in a rebranded “Independent” Sinemea and the Democrat voter hates her …she had no pathway to winning anything which is why she’s essentially quitting… I doubt she even runs in 2024
 

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Is Arizona a purple state? Yes. Kari Lake barely lost the election. A moderate Republican would have got the independent voted needed to win. The reason why Dems have been winning is partly because Republicans nominee awful candidates who turn off Independents and a few reasonable Republicans.
hobbs was also a low quality candidate. a better dem would have won by a wider margin
 

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She's going to get killed when her seat is up for re-election regardless if she's on the Democratic or Independent side.
The problem is that she could split the democrat vote, dooming whoever wins the dem nomination and perhaps throwing things to the republican. It almost feels like deliberate sabotage.
 
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Except for the fact that Arizonians had the option of Martha McSally as the moderate republican you claim would have won yet she lost twice to Sinema and Kelly back to back lol …”Moderate Republicans” do not drive enthusiasm in Arizona clearly


The reality is Kyrsten is not Kari Lake …Kari tethered herself to trumpism and he’s still quite popular in conservative circles …the moderate republicans have been losing primary after primary because of that fact … the Kari Lake/Trump enthusiast will never find anything appealing in a rebranded “Independent” Sinemea and the Democrat voter hates her …she had no pathway to winning anything which is why she’s essentially quitting… I doubt she even runs in 2024
McSally was a shyt Republican and the Trump backlash was intense.

Arizona, like Georgia is not a fan of Trumpism. Take the Trumpism back and run a normal Republican, things go back to the way they were.
 
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McSally was a shyt Republican and the Trump backlash was intense.

Arizona, like Georgia is not a fan of Trumpism. Take the Trumpism back and run a normal Republican, things go back to the way they were.
I think Arizona has a lot of neocons, still. Some of those neocons jumped right on the Trump train, but not enough of them did.

There's lots of military settled there too because of Luke and Davis-Monthan. Those types loved John McCain and aren't fukking with someone like Kari Lake who doesn't like them right back.

You combine that with all the tech workers from CA who moved into Chandler, Tempe, etc., and Arizona is going to stay purple, especially because the Trumpists ran all the neocons out of the Arizona GOP and are running the show in Republican primaries. They're going to continue pissing off the neocons, who will stay home or vote for Dems who carry themselves like Mark Kelly.

Kelly is the perfect candidate to consistently carry that Senate seat. Astronaut, former military, carries himself like a moderate even though he votes with Biden regularly.

Gallego is a former Marine with charisma. That seat is his if not in 2024, in 2030. He's a great candidate.
 

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McSally was a shyt Republican and the Trump backlash was intense.

Arizona, like Georgia is not a fan of Trumpism. Take the Trumpism back and run a normal Republican, things go back to the way they were.
1. Sinema is a shyt democrat which is why she left the party
2. Trumpism is not going anywhere ..good luck finding that alternative universe
 

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Sinema is probably the best bet for Arizona. If she was primaried, that person would likely go on to lose to the Republican candidate.

I'm not sure if a split vote works in anyone's favor.

How does one say this when Arizona just re-elected its other Senator who's a Dem by a 5% margin?
 
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