that mj gif spamming has me dying 
Kotaku: The console wars are over and nobody really won.
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This is not true. Even if you paid the standard rate of $20 per month you simple need 3 $70 games and a $30 game and you've gotten that value back in a year.
In reality you can get Game Pass Ultimate for $180-$200 for 3 years by converting Gold / Core time to Ultimate buying keys from CD Keys meaning if you get 3 AAA games inside of 3 years you've gotten more value than you paid for.
For many gamers Call of Duty at this point guarantees they get at least 1 game.
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thing is you need some form of GamePass/PSN just to play online. so to play COD, people are already paying at least ~$10 a month. and you're not locked into a tier for the year, so you can bounce around if you only want to play a few games in the top tier
It doesn't matter what the average consumer will do. What matters is what's available for you to take advantage of. The average consumer is lazy and they pay more for everything due to that.Average consumer is not doing this
The average consumer is probably paying $12 a month for Spotify when a $99 gift card with get them the same exact service for $8.25 a month average cost prepaying for a full year.
They won some shyt don’t nobody else want.
Now they stand alone in a declining market looking for what to do next
So this some "i don't wanna play no more" cuz you losing type shyt then?They won some shyt don’t nobody else want.
Now they stand alone in a declining market looking for what to do next
I mean Sony won but at what price? If anything out of the big three they're facing the worst outcome. By pivoting away from their own hardware Microsoft will grow into arguably the biggest company in gaming or at least go head to head with Tencent. By abandoning the console arm race entirely Nintendo was allowed to soar to new heights.
Sony is stuck in a business model with shrinking margins and they're experimenting to try to find a way to make the legacy business work in a new era. All those cancelled live service games and the failure on Concord are an example. Their games coming to PC on a shrinking window is another example.
but it does matter simply because they people going to cd keys/etc are not the average user. you don't make rules for the outliers, you make it for the mass consumer. that's 101.
that's more for a PC user. And you saw that MS raised the price for all Gamepass users on the console side, but dared not touch PC.
Gaming subscription services are for two types of people.No, because you have gamepass and still buying games outside the service you shouldn’t be bragging about “free” games cause you’re spending the same amount of money on games every year as most people here lol
most people are doing the same thing, buying games they’re interested in actually playing, not forcing themselves into playing things on an expensive rental service
you and meach were just bragging about eternal strands knowing damn well yall would never pay moeny for that game
1) People that just love to play any and every game available. (never met one of these but i think they exist)
2) People who can't really afford to buy many games. So they just take what's available on gamepass and are happy.
a Gamer who wants their favorite game now. like as soon as its released. Triple A titles, and plans to keep that game in rotation indefinitely should they enjoy it. Is probably just copping the game outright.
I don't just retire my games after i play them. I occasionally replay after its been long enough to fade from my memory a bit. I still play Shining force 2 every few years. What's the point of gamepass for me if that game isn't on there forever? or i have to wait to play a new release game i've been hyped for?
Perfect analogy brother. Non bias and truth. I would like to be in Sony business rooms to see what they are discussing because they will have to either pivot or stay in a declining console business. Console sales don’t equal software sales as they have unsuccessfully been able to utilize their attachment rate.
Sooner or later they will follow Microsoft and put their games everywhere. Microsoft appears to be treating their gaming venture just like PC. You won’t see dedicated gaming consoles anymore in a sense it’s just Microsoft, I expect to see other vendors make Xbox gaming related devices with Xbox Pc marketplace Steam etc…
He's actually not wrong. The reality is Microsoft just ran into their console mortality faster than Sony did. For all their failures it forced them to think outside the box and do things you're now starting to see Sony creep into doing now like putting games on PC (some games day 1) and putting games on other hardware (Lego Horizon). They both ran into the same issue it's just Microsoft ran into it first.
The PS5 is likely gonna sell around what the PS4 did. Outside of price raises where does the growth come from for a public traded company? The live service initiative failed so what now? Go back to what they were doing and abandon growth?
I feel like the business model that is failing is the games as a service model. Sony is sticking with premium single player experiences and great single player games are still successful. Going the PC route really limits you to a younger seemingly larger audience. But restricts the accessibility long term. There is reason older gamers buy retro arcade machines so much it has become a new industry, but mostly younger people with less disposable income stick to subscriptions.
All you need to do is have more experiences to offer the older gamers and they will spend on it. If they released 20 games of the quality of God of War or Uncharted this year, i would have copped all 20 and all of their respective dlcs
Calling cap. If MS wants to be the biggest publisher, they are going to have to do business with Sony/Nintendo in order to make money period. Hell, they are doing it with Sony now because they have to, not want to. Who are they going to pivot to if both Sony and Nintendo are like, "Nah, we ain't fukking with yall" if their prices get out of hand. They don't need them and I say that because PC users will not deal with their fukkery because they don't need MS either.
And many of yall continue to try to put Xbox failure on Sony when it was Xbox leadershop own incompetence that put them in their position. Using Sony as a cope for their own poor leadership's decisions is goofy. Complete lack of accountability.
