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African Lion vs Siberian Tiger Fight Comparison


Lion's ain't seeing a tiger fam. Cut it out.

(the other guy just posted that same link)

I just showed the entire siberian tiger project team in russia, an no tiger in the past 20 years have gone pass 260 kg they average 173 kg, theres only about 300 or so left, this info came from the only people who are even up there...then you show a fan made site to where the creator doesnt even give his name, photos of him weighing or measuring these animals, or any type of credentials, and you want me to cut it out?

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Please mam, can I have some more B.S :feedme:
 

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There are over 1,000 records of lions killing giraffe, buffalo, hippo, and eland, all 4,000+ pound animals...why is it you cant even show 10 accounts of brown bears killing just bison, who are about half the weight and sizes of those animals lions kill. A bear is no where near the capability's of a lion, the bear cant even jump 5 feet, a lion can clear 40 feet, a bear cant even jump 2 feet up, a lion can easily jump 8 feet up, this means the lion can get at the bear in more ways than vice versa

The athletics here is ridiculously out gunned. If the bear was getting thew worse of the fight, he cant even run, lions catch cheetahs, if the bear began running off the lion would easily catch him and tear him apart.



That site was written by a fan, who has never seen a lion or tiger in his life. You obviously didnt read the spoiler I just posted, a lion can be just about twice as big as a siberian tiger in size.
Love lions but they aint fukkin with most bears...do you see how strong these dudes are and they get up to 1500 lbs

 

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Love lions but they aint fukkin with most bears...do you see how strong these dudes are and they get up to 1500 lbs



Doesnt change the two videos of people 3x bigger than small guys losing. Plus, that looks quite pathetic, theres no blood, theres no broken bones, theres no skill other then pushing each other over, and catch the part the bigger bear is pissing himself? Yup, no game as well. You are talking about bears who probably will fight 1 or 2 fights in there entire lives, compared to lions, who fights 100's of times:

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I counted more than 100 other lions killed by the Mapogo's
http://www.sunsafaris.com/blog/2012/...brett-thomson/

As stated by the experts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JL7...&nohtml5=False





So what you're telling me is, you'd favor a yokuzuna vs mike tyson in a free for all fight?
 

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Lion's ain't seeing a tiger fam.

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31’st of March, 1851, In the “Landshuter Zeitung” (“Landshut Newspaper”)


A drama at the Ganges.


I’ll tell of one of these terrible fights, one you wouldn’t see again in a hundred years, a scene of blood and death that forever will haunt my mind. […] The lion and his rival, the tiger, need air and space in great quantity. Here, and only here, are they really able to live and to rule. […] (A long description of lions and tigers and how fierce both of them are, the actual event follows now) A Malayan slave ran towards us and shouted: “Lion! Lion! Down there, at the river! It’s a big, fierce lion!”


“One more reason to take shelter in the house,” continued the colonel. “Come, my friends, take the weapons! The lion is a troublesome guest.”

We closed the house’s doors; the slaves got weapons and guarded the basement. We, to welcome this guest admirably, climbed up to the gallery from which we could overlook the Ganges. An unusually big lion walked haughtily down there, not looking around as he does when he has to fight an opponent, but instead ambling slowly and thoughtfully like a philosopher, he walked there. He stopped from time to time to rest a minute, and then continued majestically his way. Under a magnificent palm, he stopped, turned around two times, and finally lay down in the shadow. This was the rest of a magnificent ruler that had nothing to fear from any adversary. He rested easily, as do those who have made no enemies.

Scarcely ten minutes had the lion lain there, when suddenly, he jumped up as though struck by lightning, roaring very deeply and scratching the ground with both hind legs, as though challenging an adversary. He lowered his head and, in a single bound, jumped at the palm’s stem to look about, to the right and left. Then he jumped down to ground to wait again, and his gaze lingered at one particular spot on the horizon.

“An enemy seems to approach,” the colonel said, “a terrible enemy, if we look at the lion’s reaction. I predict that it will be a fierce fight, and many rich people would pay a great sum to see it if they were here right now.”

“And why,” I asked, “don’t they stage some fights from time to time, if they would pay so much?”

“Because what we have here is very rare. The lion won’t fight against a human but against a fierce animal, one as strong as he himself, such as a rhinoceros, an elephant, or a tiger.”

“A tiger! It’s really a tiger!” one of us shouted pointing a finger at the dangerous beast which jumped in huge leaps towards the lion. It was breathtaking, our eyes wandered from the lion to the tiger and from the tiger to the lion. The lion still was lurking. It was a terrible spectacle and we wagered who will win. Now they stood eyeball to eyeball with each other. They’d seen each other and wouldn’t leave unless one of them was lying dead at the ground. The tiger was unbelievably huge and beautiful with his long black stripes distributed all over his yellowish body. His fearful eyes seemed to burn, his head was lowered. We stood, at the most, 200 feet away. The sun shone brightly, so we could see their every move. I don’t think I have to mention that our hearts were in our mouths. The tiger closed in on the lion, but the lion remained calm. In the latter, we could see the force of the calmness in his powerful position; in the tiger, one could believe to see the violent tension of someone who has the impudence to disrespect a close danger, one who had the will to assault it. We could see a certain twitch in his legs, but he wasn’t about to flee. Did the crouching tiger want to kill the lion? I believe it did, and I admire the royal tiger’s courage, he would rather lie down in a burning furnace than be accused of cowardice!


The lion had not moved at all, but we could see what was happening inside him by looking at his erected mane. From time to time, his countenance suggested a submissive gesture. But he, the king of animals, didn’t want to show any fear, but rather boldness, to his opponent. A duel was now inevitable. For the tiger it may be a glorious day, but for the lion it was certainly a festive day.

With one leap, they could grab, bite, tear each other; with one leap they’d jump over the space of 20 feet that separated them from each other. Then, they leaped! The crash equaled the crash of two ships in a tempest! We could hear the bones breaking under the weight of their terrible paws, we could see chunks of flesh falling to the ground. They made no sound, but their gruff moaning indicated their rage and pain. Neither showed superiority and we wondered who would win. If the lion were to think that he had overpowered the tiger, the latter could earn the victory with a single move, shattering the surprised lion.


The fight now lasted 10 minutes, and suddenly, as if they came to an agreement, both loosened their grip to gain their breath again. It was the motionlessness of the rage, but it was the calmness of the king. A few moments later, an unexpected incident which resurrected the fight took place: The tiger, which saw not only his defeat but also his death, used the moment. While his opponent was licking his wounded hind leg, he leaped 10 feet up the palm’s stem and stayed there. The lion looked around and couldn’t see his foe anymore; he roared, looked upwards, and he jumped at the tiger. But in this position it was impossible to continue the fight. They knew that only one of them would survive. The tiger jumped down and the lion followed him, but his leg caused him to shiver. A long fight wasn’t possible any more. Their claws were blunted, their jaws were tired, and they had lost much blood.

The fighters’ jaws were wedged in each other as they bit at each others’ heads; we could feel the bones crushing. Suddenly the tiger retreated, wavered and fell down. The lion seized him with his terrible paws and it seemed like he wanted to punish the defeated opponent for his resistance.


He didn’t loosen his grip, the merciless king of the forest, the feared lord of the wilderness; he tore the tiger apart, he crushed its skull. Suddenly a crocodile appeared out of the river. It seized the lion at his injured hind leg and dragged him into the water. The only remains of this fight were the dead tiger under the palm and some read streams of blood on the water surface.

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Translated into English by the German user Leofwin.

Landshuter Zeitung
 

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The only thing I find interesting is:
do you think a lion could fukk up a grizzly bear?

That when theres no one to show proof on the lions behalf, almost the entire thread of people go in one direction and believe a bear has ever killed a lion with one blow. Yet when the sources of lions feats are shown, people are able to distinguish logic.

Hah man, people are just to sheeple:

people compared to sheep in being docile, foolish, or easily led.
Google

To gullible, too ignorant, to tricked, fooled and only follow what others do, unable to make a reasonable, logical and fact based opinion. Not that the lion beats the bear 10/10 or anything, but the statistics do show the lion has more advantages over the bear.
 
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Clyde the kodiak:
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According to zoo director Terry Lincoln, Clyde probably weighed close to 2400 lbs a year earlier He still had a fat layer of 9 inches when he died.


Sources:

www.bismarckcafe.com/blogs/dakota-zoo

bismarcktribune.com/news/local/dakota-zoo-gets-four-grizzly-cubs/article_e7b44026-22b6-11e1-b6bc-001871e3ce6c.html


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This lion and tiger look no smaller than the 2,400 acclaimed bear, so I highly doubt that the bear was that heavy, a 1,000 pound bear would be already pushing limits and no means slender looking, this is how a 1,000 lb bear looks like:


He's as round as it gets, could a brown bear at that weight perform as well as a wild fit 700 lb bear? Those bears are twice as heavy as a lion/tiger yet they are not twice the sizes of lions, the heads of these bears are small, only thing is bigger is their stomach areas. Bears dont chase their prey down, dont struggle against herds of animals, dont have to try and over power something vastly stronger than them, hence their physique are not combative for a free for all brawl.

lions have to work hard to eat every week, they are sculpted into supreme athletes:

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Bears have small upper bodys, fat lower bodys:
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Lions are the opposite, small lower body, larger upper body. Dont see how the bear is getting pass all that mane:
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Bears fur: 2-5 inches thick/long
Lions mane: 1-2 feet long/thick
 

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It seems as if tigers and bears in the wild accounts are at a 50/50.
 

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Love lions but they aint fukkin with most bears...do you see how strong these dudes are and they get up to 1500 lbs



a lion isnt lasting past the 1:24 mark of this video :heh: if the lion even survives that long

bruh you can link a whole bunch of shyt that aint got to do with shyt of lions killing slow ass elephants and shyt. They aint fukkin with a grizzly /kodiak bear

thats not even a knock against a lion.. no land animal is fukkin with a grizzly / kodiak bear.. NONE ..

this dude busting out NBA analytics on lions the same kind nerds use to show steph curry playing good even though he goes like 6 / 20 from the field or something "well you see here Z x Y = A" type shyt :camby: mafukka a kodiak would draw down on a lion :demonic:
 

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a lion isnt lasting past the 1:24 mark of this video :heh: if the lion even survives that long

:what:
Exactly what do we see in that video, a bear shytting himself?

Do we see the bear biting off limbs?

How about breaking bones?

Did the bear throw a single haymaker?

Wheres all the blood if they are so lethal?

Where was this legendary skull crushing capability's?

Were they moving at hyper sonic speeds or something?

No all we see is two fat and slow bears squaring each other up, and fighting sumo style pushing each other around, with slow, no agility, no devastating assaults, which ended in the bigger bear pissing himself and the smaller bear shytting himself, with the bigger bear backing down...I thought the size is what grants them the instant win? Then why didnt the bigger bear win? You must be out of your mind if you think a lion cant last 2 minutes in a fair face to face confrontation.

Even a small young lion can bytch slap a bigger brown bear sending him running:



bruh you can link a whole bunch of shyt that aint got to do with shyt of lions killing slow ass elephants and shyt. They aint fukkin with a grizzly /kodiak bear



What? even a baby elephant has enough power to choke to death a puma:

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=950CEFD81F3DE633A25757C1A9639C946797D6CF

A bull elephant would pick up a kodiak bear and slam his head onto the ground cracking it like an egg. And funny, theres over 200 accounts already shown of grizzly bears being killed by pumas, wild boars, wolves, goats and domestic animals.
:wow:



thats not even a knock against a lion.. no land animal is fukkin with a grizzly / kodiak bear.. NONE ..


:shaq2:
lol Polar bear > Kodiak real incident:
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No land animal would mess with a grizzly/kodiak? I'd bet the worlds largest kodiak bear would get wrecked by:

- African bush Elephant 10/10
- Indian bull elephant 10/10
- White rhino 10/10
- Black rhino 10/10
- Hippo 10/10
- Male crocodile 9/10
- Bull giraffe 8/10
- Bull eland 8/10
- Bison 9/10
- Spanish fighting bull 9/10
- Indian Guar 9/10
- Stallion 9/10
- Puma 9/10
- Jaguar 8/10
- Donkey or mule 8/10
- Pack of 6+ wolves 10/10
- Clan of 6+ hyenas 10/10

I can go on and on and on,

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A brown bear pound for pound cant even kill a donkey:

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Big cats pound for pound can kill any animal on the planet nearly 10/10.


:troll:

this dude busting out NBA analytics on lions the same kind nerds use to show steph curry playing good even though he goes like 6 / 20 from the field or something "well you see here Z x Y = A" type shyt :camby: mafukka a kodiak would draw down on a lion :demonic:

Dont get mad because lions kill almost every animal on the planet on record, yet you dont even have 10 genuine accounts of a kodiak killing a stallion, bull moose or bull bison, just ten?. All you have for proof is your imagination. Yet lions on record have killed thousands of bull giraffes and elands, and buffalos 1,500 - 4,000 lb animals.

Z x Y ?

Yes, we can gauge their prowess by looking at their feats, which are fact based not out of thin air like your opinions.

Lions:

- Over a 100 sources show they have sledge or steam hammer like blows crushing skulls and breaking backs.
- Over a thousand records of killing formidable animals
- 100's of sources that state the lions mane is nearly impossible to by-pass.
- 100's of records of lions killing tigers and bears in captivity
- Video proof of their athletics, superior in speed, agility, dexterity, maneuverability, and power.

What advantages did you show that bears have over lions again?

- They can get much fatter.

Wow, some proof a bear beats a lion you got there.:stopitslime:
 
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Bears are only big in the body, the lion out classes the bear in weaponry, the lions muzzle and mouth area is twice as big as the bears:
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Lions muzzle twice as big as the black bears:
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Again here, lions muzzle is bigger than bears:
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a young mane-less 1-2 year old lion just nipping the device has almost 700 psi of force:


Even a lionesses skull is bigger than a black bears, the muzzle is nearly twice as big = more biting power:
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Big wolf Skull

A full grown lion can easily break the 2,000 psi mark. A brown bear is more herbivore than carnivore as being omnivorous and wouldnt even get pass the 1,200 psi mark at max sizes. So he doesnt need bone crushing bites, he eats mostly plants. While lions need harder bites to take down much larger prey.



A lions bite is even stronger
Lion Vs. Tiger



Stephen wroe:
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Stephen Wroe | University of New England - Australia - Academia.edu

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Juliet Eilperin:
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560 kg Psi
Demon Fish

Dr. Geerat J. Vermeij. Biology:
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4168 N
The Evolutionary World

Dr. Karl kruszelnicki:
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560 kg = 1244 Psi
Dinosaurs Aren't Dead

dikk dale:
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700 lb lion 2,200 Psi =

The power of 2,200 pounds per square inch of lion when he bites through a
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette - Google News Archive Search

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SKULL SIZE COMPAISON

Russian Biologist Vladimir Georgievich Heptner:
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At the same time the largest skulls of lion are only slightly bigger than the largest skulls of tiger.
Mammals of the Soviet Union, Volume 2 Part 2 Carnivora (Hyenas and Cats)

Tiger No. 2 were exactly the same length of carcase, but the skull of the lion is the bigger.
Journal of the Bombay Natural History Society

Alfred Pease:
Sir Alfred Pease, 2nd Baronet - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The lion's skull is on the average longer than the tiger's, but the skulls in average -breadth are about equal.
The Book of the Lion

Head of the smithsonian Biologist John seidensticker:
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it has been suggested that the tiger may have a proportionally smaller head than the lion.
Tigers of the World


The tigers fangs cant take as much pressure as the lions:
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The lion has potentially the hardest bite of the land carnivorians, much harder than bears or tigers due to his larger head and muzzle.
 
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Bears are only big in the body, the lion out classes the bear in weaponry, the lions muzzle and mouth area is twice as big as the bears:
a96472bf139e069655a7cba1c6d81011.jpg


Lions muzzle twice as big as the black bears:
trio2.png



Again here, lions muzzle is bigger than bears:
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a young mane-less 1-2 year old lion just nipping the device has almost 700 psi of force:


Even a lionesses skull is bigger than a black bears, the muzzle is nearly twice as big = more biting power:
EDEAE584-A43A-4E55-8195-FAC5FDA0F896-563-0000014A383DBB5F.jpg

Big wolf Skull

A full grown lion can easily break the 2,000 psi mark. A brown bear is more herbivore than carnivore as being omnivorous and wouldnt even get pass the 1,200 psi mark at max sizes. So he doesnt need bone crushing bites, he eats mostly plants. While lions need harder bites to take down much larger prey.



A lions bite is even stronger
Lion Vs. Tiger



Stephen wroe:
_40993167_marsupliona_wroe_203.jpg

Stephen Wroe | University of New England - Australia - Academia.edu

5,600 N
Not Exactly Rocket Science

Juliet Eilperin:
os-2011-01.jpg


560 kg Psi
Demon Fish

Dr. Geerat J. Vermeij. Biology:
9781466813922.jpg


4168 N
The Evolutionary World

Dr. Karl kruszelnicki:
3208965674_8a9ef3c0fc.jpg


560 kg = 1244 Psi
Dinosaurs Aren't Dead

dikk dale:
ba71d80c1488df8f6116bd01696d8fdb.jpg

700 lb lion 2,200 Psi =

The power of 2,200 pounds per square inch of lion when he bites through a
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette - Google News Archive Search

5.-Skeletons-in-Zoo-Left-Lion-Middle-tiger-Right-Tiger.jpg



SKULL SIZE COMPAISON

Russian Biologist Vladimir Georgievich Heptner:
Heptner_V.jpg


At the same time the largest skulls of lion are only slightly bigger than the largest skulls of tiger.
Mammals of the Soviet Union, Volume 2 Part 2 Carnivora (Hyenas and Cats)

Tiger No. 2 were exactly the same length of carcase, but the skull of the lion is the bigger.
Journal of the Bombay Natural History Society

Alfred Pease:
Sir Alfred Pease, 2nd Baronet - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The lion's skull is on the average longer than the tiger's, but the skulls in average -breadth are about equal.
The Book of the Lion

Head of the smithsonian Biologist John seidensticker:
1410624809.jpg


it has been suggested that the tiger may have a proportionally smaller head than the lion.
Tigers of the World


The tigers fangs cant take as much pressure as the lions:
d5c36d97602adbe4bb756bab022de8c91e7429c2_r.jpg


The lion has potentially the hardest bite of the land carnivorians, much harder than bears or tigers due to his larger head and muzzle.


we are talking about Kodiak / Grizzly bears.. your entire post here is comparing lions to black bears.. stick to the subject you originally wrote about..

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you are comparing one of the smallest bears on earth to lions, and using that as your argument for why lions would do good against the biggest bears on earth.. truly dumbass posting honestly :mindblown:
 

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we are talking about Kodiak / Grizzly bears.. your entire post here is comparing lions to black bears.. stick to the subject you originally wrote about..

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you are comparing one of the smallest bears on earth to lions, and using that as your argument for why lions would do good against the biggest bears on earth.. truly dumbass posting honestly :mindblown:

And yet I showed several cases where these supposed smaller black bears defeated and even killed 800+ lb brown bears. I wasnt comparing the sizes of them, but the muzzle and bite power, feel free to show a kodiak bear with a larger muzzle and bite psi than a lion other than your imagination. And lol, whats with the grizzly claws? You mean these ones scientifically accepted to be dull and blunt:





Great Bear Almanac
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Gary Brown - ‎1996 - Preview - More editions
Cla iws Black Bear on-retractable claws, fixed in an outstretched position, are a bear's more specialized tools used for ... of other bears; fore- claws four to five inches long; hindclaws shorter and more curved than foreclaws; claws more blunt
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The Bear Almanac, 2nd: A Comprehensive Guide to the Bears of ...
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Gary Brown - ‎2013 - Preview - More editions
claws. American black bear Color black, grayish brown • short and round • Thick at base • Tapered to sharp point ... 4 to 5 inches long • Color dark, almost black • Claws more blunt than those of other bears • Longer and narrower than those



Hunting Bears: Black, Brown, Grizzly, and Polar Bears
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Kathy Etling - ‎2003 - Preview - More editions
Such marking works not only as a visual signpost that other bears can readily see but also as a olfactory marker since the bear leaves behind a generous helping Bear claws are blunt and two- to three-tenths of an inch wide near their tips.


North American Predators
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Brown bears are massively built and heavy bodied animals. They have a ... claws 217 Brown bear claws are longer and straighter than those of American black bears.221 The claws are blunt, while those of a black bear are sharp. Adults have
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Stories of the Road
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Marie Sansone - ‎2009 - Preview
Black bears have sharp, curved claws, one and a half inches in length, while the more blunt grizzly bear claws, long and straight, are roughly the length of a human finger. Black bears are Roman-nosed. Grizzlies have a concave face and
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First Book of Bears
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Robert Whitehead, James G. Teason - ‎1966 - Snippet view
The bear's claws are fixed; that is, they cannot be pulled back into a sheath as can those of a cat. Because the claws are long, blunt, and non-retractable, and because the animals have great weight, it is difficult for most full-grown bears ...


Mammals of California
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Everett Williams Jameson, Hans J. Peeters - ‎2004 - Preview - More editions
They have stout limbs and heavy, blunt, nonretractable claws, and they are plantigrade. Reflecting their omnivorous ... Most of the evolutionary history of bears took place in the Old World, starting in the Miocene. The genus Ursus dates from


The World of the Grizzly Bear: Text and Photos
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The older and larger bears have the longest front claws, and some of these may be twice as long as theclaws of yearling cubs. ... Some grizzlies have very long claws that are strongly curved; others have claws that are rather short and blunt.

Natural history, a popular introduction to the study of ...
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The Bears usher in the section, and may be considered as forming the connecting link between this family and those of the herbivorous mammalia; their claws are strong, blunt, and well adapted for climbing or digging, but not for lacerating

Bears, Their Life and Behavior: A Photographic Study of the ...
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William Ashworth - ‎1992 - Snippet view
THE KINDS OF BEARS 5 5 the Arctic tundra. As bears go, it is medium-size, ranging from 200 to 800 pounds or so in weight, with most individuals weighing between... bear claws are short and blunt, and are almost always dark-colored, ...

Fur Facts
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Albert M. Ahern - ‎1922 - Read - More editions
Its claws are short, much curved, very stocky at the base, and taper rapidly to a sharp point. ... digging implements than the long, slightly curved, blunt claws of the grizzly; but they are perfectly adapted to the uses to which their owner puts
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Herbert Lockyer - ‎1988 -
As Daniel watched he saw the lion lifted up from the earth and made to stand upon its feet as a ... After the lion, the bear is strongest, and known for its voracity.


Herbert W. Armstrong,
... and his feet were asthe feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and ... GrecoMacedonian Empire and its succeeding four divisions after his death; and ... the strongest part, of the lion; the feet,the strongest part, of the bear; the body ...
a lioness saved a bears life when a male lion attacked a bear in rome:

https://books.google.com/books?id=XR9HAQAAQBAJ&pg=PA250&dq=%22female+lion%22+%22bear%22+fight&hl=en&sa=X&ei=AKVvVZvNBYmUyQT8noGgDA&ved=0CBQQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=%22female%20lion%22%20%22bear%22%20fight&f=false

The bear was powerful and his massive claws scarred the lion deeply, but the golden cat hung on until the big brown beast was dead
https://books.google.com/books?id=7I1GBAAAQBAJ&pg=PT94&dq=%22the+lion+tore%22+bear&hl=en&sa=X&ei=NLZwVZn9MIvutQWmooGQDg&ved=0CC4Q6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=%22the%20lion%20tore%22%20bear&f=false

smaller bear defeats grizzly:
The Pittsburgh Press - Google News Archive Search


Its not about the size, but the skill:

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Your only argument so far is the bear is bigger, hence he will win...a weak argument.
 
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Hmm, in one hand, you have posters like @itsyoung!! saying a bear is all powerful, yet cant even present 10 verified times a brown bear has killed a stallion, bull moose, or bull bison, let alone a video of a bear even making contact with a adult version of these animals.

You dont have any amount of bears killing these animals, and lions contend with hippos every week, something that is 4x bigger and heavier than a bear, so why would they care any less of a bear whos 4x smaller than something they routinely go against and kill? And first of all, hippos have the most devastating bite on the planet:

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- They kill more humans than any mammal on the planet (Hyper-aggressive)
- Have teeth/tusk that are 10x larger than crocodiles fangs. (Far more damage is done)
- Is 4,000 - 8,000 pounds of a mixture of fat and muscle (10 x the physical strength of a kodiak)
- They are faster runners than kodiaks, can transverse in water as well and are nimble in movements

And yet still nothing showing bears kill just 1,500 lb animals on record, in the other hand you have lions with hippos:

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Not far from this pride another pride in Linyanti Botswana specializes in killing Hippo.
http://www.botswana.co.za/Botswan...ife_Behaviour-travel/feeding.htm

Lions were seen regularly this month, but unusually, three or four of the male intruders appear to have adopted new tactics in their hunting techniques. Three times, the lions killed adult hippos during thenight.
http://www.kwando.com/pdfs/October 2013.pdf

4 lions kill adult hippo, and 2 lions kill adult hippo
http://www.flatdogscamp.com/wp-conte...LIMB-TREES.pdf

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Based on biomass, buffalo represented50% of the diet followed by hippopotamus (17%),
https://openaccess.leidenuniv.nl/bit...df?sequence=11

two young male lions kill adult female hippo:The next day, the two intruders were found feeding on a female adult hippo which they appear tohave killed during the night.
http://www.kwando.co.za/pdfs/December 2014.pdf

Notch and the four males were seen near the saltlick on the Ntiaktiak River where they had killed a hippo. These lion have killed and fed off three hippos this month two of which were closeapparently a few days apart On the 20th the four notch males and the maternity pride killed a male hippo the other side of theTalek River on the Burrangat plains.
http://www.governorscamp.com/sites/d...12%20-%201.pdf

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For several years, the pridewas regularly observed hunting adult hippos,
http://globalsojourns.com/imagedump/...here_Lions.pdf


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The lions in the Nsefu area are very well known for killing hippo
Trip Report: South Luangwa Photo Safari - Aug 2015 - Wild Eye

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By virtue of their size hippo have very few natural enemies and mature animals
can only be preyed upon by lion.
https://www.google.com/search?q=%22By+virtue+of+their+size+hippo+have+very+few+natural+enemies+and+mature+animals+can+only+be+preyed+upon+by+lion%22&tbm=bks&tbo=1&oq=%22By+virtue+of+their+size+hippo+have+very+few+natural+enemies+and+mature+animals+can+only+be+preyed+upon+by+lion%22&gs_l=heirloom-serp.3...4484.9465.0.10381.2.2.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0....0...1ac.1.34.heirloom-serp..2.0.0.G7mhxChJ-7U


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No animal other than a lion tackles a fully-grown hippo — not even
crocodile, which live in the water with it
https://www.google.com/search?q=%22No+animal+other+than+a+lion+tackles+a+fully-grown+hippo+%E2%80%94+not+even+crocodile%2C+which+live+in+the+water+with+it%22&tbm=bks&tbo=1&oq=%22No+animal+other+than+a+lion+tackles+a+fully-grown+hippo+%E2%80%94+not+even+crocodile%2C+which+live+in+the+water+with+it%22&gs_l=heirloom-serp.3...6899.10805.0.11007.2.2.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0....0...1ac.1.34.heirloom-serp..2.0.0.-sNuSS44YAU

Everyone was eager to go out at night after supper to watch the lion in the
process of a kill. We followed, slowly, in a jeep with our lights out, a lion who
almost killed a hippo.

https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Everyone+was+eager+to+go+out+at+night+after+supper%22+to+watch+the+lion+in+the+almost+killed+a+hippo&tbm=bks&tbo=1&oq=%22Everyone+was+eager+to+go+out+at+night+after+supper%22+to+watch+the+lion+in+the+almost+killed+a+hippo&gs_l=heirloom-serp.3...7644.11596.0.11823.2.2.0.0.0.0.125.249.0j2.2.0....0...1ac.1.34.heirloom-serp..2.0.0.YmVVWQoy6XM

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Animals the size of adult hippos, rhinos and elephants are simply too big and powerful for any carnivore except lions
Animals the size of adult hippos, rhinos and elephants are simply too big and - Google Search+

Vlog: Lioness takes on a young hippo - Lion Sands Game Reserve

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Hippo - it's an acquired taste - Africa Geographic

Kanana Lions and the Latest Hippo Kill – The evolution of a pride. Ker & Downey Botswana | Ker & Downey Botswana - Discover Beautiful Botswana with our Luxury Safaris

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Contrary to report, lion will attack adult hippo, and will attack them regularly and
successfully. I could understand
how a super-pride might form in hippo country,
for to deal with prey so powerful with minimum risk to the predator a pride
https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Contrary+to+report%2C+lion+will+attack+adult+hippo%2C+and+will+attack+them+regularly+and+successfully.+I+could+understand%22&tbm=bks&tbo=1&oq=%22Contrary+to+report%2C+lion+will+attack+adult+hippo%2C+and+will+attack+them+regularly+and+successfully.+I+could+understand%22&gs_l=heirloom-serp.3...37035.41409.0.41615.2.2.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0....0...1ac.1.34.heirloom-serp..2.0.0.uJnMibBM1ZI


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The Paradise Pride of lions are still living up to their formidable reputation of hunting hippo.The 5 younger male lions have apparently killed about 10 so far,
http://www.glorioussafaris.com/Governors.pdf


Yesterday a lion killed a hippo and today everyone was enjoying the meal.
http://www.womenstravelnetwork.ca/blog/kenya-nov-8-and-9-the-masai-mara-game-reserve/
 
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