NYC Rebel
...on the otherside of the pond
Why act like someone is trying to take away his right to spew a dumb opinion?why? cause you dont like what he got to say? dude has an opinion on it and he said it.
Why act like someone is trying to take away his right to spew a dumb opinion?why? cause you dont like what he got to say? dude has an opinion on it and he said it.
Don't you think the fact that Kobe nearly went to jail for something he didn't do has given him a different perspective on objectivity in situations like this?
All he's really saying in this quote is he's not going to rush to comment on something where he has no idea what actually happened, just based alone on race. I have no idea what his personal feelings on Trayvon Martin-George Zimmerman are based on this quote, and nobody else does either. And I prefer it that way.
Did he say it was wrong to protest? You just making shyt up right now. Dude never made one peep either way about this until someone asked him about it, and he ALL he said was he didn't feel it's right to jump to the defense of something without knowing all the facts. He said NOTHING about this specific incident. Just a general statement that people shouldn't rush to back something they dont fully know about just based on race.
Jumping to conclusions based upon race I can agree with to an extent, but the topic he used for the example is what got me. He made showing support for a family who's son was killed, regardless of race, seem beneath him.
He attached the Trayvon Martin case to his opinion. Are u overlooking that
He was asked a question about it and he answered. It's not like he's out there saying he doesn't support Trayvon Martin's family and shyt like some dumbasses here are trying to portray.
We don't know what the actual question that was asked was. At least I dont. I haven't read the full article, but I know it was something about the Heat's picture with the hoods on. And Kobe's response is he personally doesn't do things like that because he doesn't want to throw support behind something based on race. He wants to know the whole story. That doesn't mean he doesn't think Trayvon was wronged. It just means he's not gonna make public protests on shyt he doesn't know the whole story on.
Not at all. The only thing I saw him say there is he's not gonna throw his support behind something JUST because he's black, without knowing the entire story and facts. I don't think that's unreasonable. And he's not saying it's wrong for anyone else to do it, just that he doesn't feel that's his place. As a guy who was falsely accused of a crime, I think it's a pretty fair and objective stance to take. I don't think Kobe would have wanted people supporting him thru that just because he was black. He would have wanted people supporting him because they thought he was innocent.
I did some digging in the archives and I came across some regional coverage of the shooting of Trayvon Martin.I picked up on the Trayvon story before any media outlets. I saw Twitter users and small media outlets discuss the incident thereabouts too. For your imformation, that's how the big media outlets picked up the story, not that how the story got picked up somehow changes the poignancy of Trayvon's story, but that's how the transition happened. The racial framing was always there as the facts were reported as such from the outset. Racial profiling was the assumption well before Martin's family lawyer ever showed his face. You saying otherwise is patently false.
You can see when local media first brokes Shooting of Trayvon Martin story it did not have the “racial framing” around the story.Boy, 17, shot to death in Sanford during 'altercation,' police say
7:22 p.m. EST, February 29, 2012|
By Susan Jacobson, Orlando Sentinel
The man who shot a 17-year-old boy to death Sunday in a gated community in Sanford was a member of Neighborhood Watch, police said Wednesday.
Trayvon Martin, a Miami high-school student, was visiting a relative when he got into an encounter that led to his death, police said Monday.
The shooter, who lives at Retreat at Twin Lakes town houses, told officers he shot the boy, said Sgt. David Morgenstern, a police spokesman. The man, who is in his 20s, was not arrested, but police continue to investigate.
The Orlando Sentinel is not releasing the man's name because he has not been charged.
FOX-Channel 35 reported that the shooter and Martin had been in a fistfight right before the killing. That detail could not be confirmed.
Martin attended high school in Miami. FOX-Channel 35 reported that Martin was visiting his mother in Sanford. Friends said Martin attended Dr. Michael M. Krop Senior High School.
Police Monday notified people who live in Retreat at Twin Lakes, which is near Interstate 4 and State Road 417, that one of their neighbors had been shot to death Sunday night.
The letter says officers will meet with the community in the next few days to answer questions and promises that police will investigate thoroughly
"We realize that this incident is very disturbing for your community," the letter reads in part.
The killing happened about 7:15 p.m. The body was found behind a building on Twin Trees Lane.
sjacobson@tribune.com or 407-540-5981
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com...226_1_gated-community-death-sunday-night-shot
I’ve never argued that "black men die all the time therefore Trayvon's story wasn't improvement enough to be singled out". You must interpreted one of my post that way, so I guess I should have been clearer.This is essentially the argument you made and I refuted in my last post. I said that your argument is that "black men die all the time" and that because of this assumption, which is true for every group, Trayvon's story wasn't important enough to be singled out. And I explained, you are wrong. The media picked up on the story as the cops involved refused to arrest and people
No kiddin, cacs and cac media doesn't care about Trayvon Martin. I don't need them to care. I need them to report the story.
You're telling me hat cacs and cac media doesn't care about Trayvon Martin? I know that, they don't
The media works in its own interest, but that doesn't mean anything vis-a-vis the Trayvon's story legitimacy as a social justice topic. The Trayvon story should have been run so that people could see the miscarriage of justice he received at the hands of the courts and public. It doesn't matter if you think the story causes division; a serial killer's spree causes "division" too; Nazi uprisings "cause division". Should these events not be reported because you and your mother don't like it? The mainstream media is only my enemy when it does things that I don't like. I like that the media reported on this story, even if the cacs in the media tried their hardest to defend Zimmerman. Blaming the "media" for Trayvon's death and Zimmerman's exoneration, lionization and enrichment is ridiculous. The people at fault are Zimmerman and cacs. No one else.