Kobe and Gigi Bryant Memorial Thread (RIP)

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man, I’ve already said this but I got nowhere else to talk to about this: Gigi passing too is really making this 100 times harder for me to come to terms with than if it was just Kobe, it’s not fair man

I feel the same. It would still be terrible and a tragedy cause Kobe was young. But his daughter passing and knowing the anguish Kobe must have felt not being able to protect her just kills me. I have a little girl just getting into that age range where she is interested in hanging out with dad and doing my hobbies. I always thought man im sure Kobe wishes he had a Boy to play ball and carry the names legacy. But with the recent vids of them together at games and tourneys. You can see Kobe didnt need a boy he had his little girl carrying the name and he was damn proud. Im sad Kobe passed but heart broken for his daughter.
 

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Kobe told Woj he got his mentality from Michael Jackson + was paranoid Jerry Buss was gonna amnesty him
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What fueled Kobe Bryant's obsessions
What fueled Kobe Bryant's obsessions


In most of these interviews, Bryant endeavored to send a message to management or coaches, teammates or opponents -- sometimes all of those constituencies in a single sitting.

Back in November of 2010 -- and unknown to me -- the target was Michael Jordan. The Los Angeles Lakers had won back-to-back championships and Kobe had moved within a title of catching MJ's six rings. Jordan had said something that felt like a slight to Bryant -- leaving him off some sort of list of great players.

When asked about Jordan, Bryant had an opening to tell me his story about Michael Jackson. He told of the pop icon calling him when he was with the Lakers, telling Bryant he could sense that he was taking a lot of grief for being different and that they should get together and talk. This was something Bryant had never discussed before, and I remember my eyes darting back and forth to my tape recorder, fearing a malfunction.

Inside the fourth floor of a Minneapolis hotel restaurant, Bryant was unloading about the late King of Pop and himself. I'll always remember his jacket -- purple and gold, with five Larry O'Brien trophies emblazoned across the back and sleeves. He looked like the varsity letterman wearing his state title patches at the Friday night pizza haunt. Kobe Bryant was 32 years old, and he didn't care at all.

"We would always talk about how he prepared to make his music, how he prepared for concerts," Bryant told me. "He would teach me what he did: how to make a 'Thriller' album, a 'Bad' album, all the details that went into it. It was all the validation that I needed -- to know that I had to focus on my craft and never waver. Because what he did -- and how he did it -- was psychotic. He helped me get to a level where I was able to win three titles playing with Shaq because of my preparation, my study. And it's only all grown.

"That's the mentality that I have -- it's not an athletic one. It's not from Jordan. It's not from other athletes.

"It's from Michael Jackson."

The thing is, Michael Jordan was everything to Kobe Bryant. He wanted MJ's blessing, the way a generation of players wanted Kobe's. Jordan was never close to Bryant, and Bryant was never close to LeBron James, and that's just how it goes with most of these iconic stars. The competition is cutthroat -- and it doesn't matter whether they're competing in real time or for the historical narrative. In the age of player empowerment, Bryant took great pride in something few others might have considered as part of their lifetime achievement: He never had to take a pay cut to win a championship

Once, we were having dinner at Javier's in Newport Beach and out of nowhere began one of our strangest conversations: Kobe was convinced that Lakers president Jim Buss wanted to amnesty the remaining money and years on his contract and force him to leave the Lakers. He had no evidence, just a hunch.

"That is never happening," I told him. "They'd burn the city down."

"I think he wants to do it," Kobe insisted.

Well, what would happen then?

"I'll go to New York and play for Phil [Jackson]."

There was no reason to believe Buss ever considered it, but Kobe couldn't stop talking about it that night. In some ways, it was a rare crisis of confidence for Bryant. He had to understand that the Lakers would never cut him loose. Still, he kept coming back to the idea over that long dinner.

We connected a couple of weeks later, and he no longer seemed concerned about the Lakers amnestying his contract. Kobe was on to something else, because he was always on to something else.
 

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Just imagine Vanessa going to bed saturday night with Kobe next to her and GiGi sleeping soundly down the hall. She had zero clue it was gonna be the last night all together as a fam. I really can't even begin to process how she and the remaining daughters are feeling. Thinking about the last night together, the last thing you said to him in the morning. Death is fukkin surreal how someone can be alive and laughing one minute and then just disappear forever.
 

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Kobe told Woj he got his mentality from Michael Jackson + was paranoid Jerry Buss was gonna amnesty him
crop_exact_GettyImages-88518346.jpg

What fueled Kobe Bryant's obsessions
What fueled Kobe Bryant's obsessions


In most of these interviews, Bryant endeavored to send a message to management or coaches, teammates or opponents -- sometimes all of those constituencies in a single sitting.

Back in November of 2010 -- and unknown to me -- the target was Michael Jordan. The Los Angeles Lakers had won back-to-back championships and Kobe had moved within a title of catching MJ's six rings. Jordan had said something that felt like a slight to Bryant -- leaving him off some sort of list of great players.

When asked about Jordan, Bryant had an opening to tell me his story about Michael Jackson. He told of the pop icon calling him when he was with the Lakers, telling Bryant he could sense that he was taking a lot of grief for being different and that they should get together and talk. This was something Bryant had never discussed before, and I remember my eyes darting back and forth to my tape recorder, fearing a malfunction.

Inside the fourth floor of a Minneapolis hotel restaurant, Bryant was unloading about the late King of Pop and himself. I'll always remember his jacket -- purple and gold, with five Larry O'Brien trophies emblazoned across the back and sleeves. He looked like the varsity letterman wearing his state title patches at the Friday night pizza haunt. Kobe Bryant was 32 years old, and he didn't care at all.

"We would always talk about how he prepared to make his music, how he prepared for concerts," Bryant told me. "He would teach me what he did: how to make a 'Thriller' album, a 'Bad' album, all the details that went into it. It was all the validation that I needed -- to know that I had to focus on my craft and never waver. Because what he did -- and how he did it -- was psychotic. He helped me get to a level where I was able to win three titles playing with Shaq because of my preparation, my study. And it's only all grown.

"That's the mentality that I have -- it's not an athletic one. It's not from Jordan. It's not from other athletes.

"It's from Michael Jackson."

The thing is, Michael Jordan was everything to Kobe Bryant. He wanted MJ's blessing, the way a generation of players wanted Kobe's. Jordan was never close to Bryant, and Bryant was never close to LeBron James, and that's just how it goes with most of these iconic stars. The competition is cutthroat -- and it doesn't matter whether they're competing in real time or for the historical narrative. In the age of player empowerment, Bryant took great pride in something few others might have considered as part of their lifetime achievement: He never had to take a pay cut to win a championship

Once, we were having dinner at Javier's in Newport Beach and out of nowhere began one of our strangest conversations: Kobe was convinced that Lakers president Jim Buss wanted to amnesty the remaining money and years on his contract and force him to leave the Lakers. He had no evidence, just a hunch.

"That is never happening," I told him. "They'd burn the city down."

"I think he wants to do it," Kobe insisted.

Well, what would happen then?

"I'll go to New York and play for Phil [Jackson]."

There was no reason to believe Buss ever considered it, but Kobe couldn't stop talking about it that night. In some ways, it was a rare crisis of confidence for Bryant. He had to understand that the Lakers would never cut him loose. Still, he kept coming back to the idea over that long dinner.

We connected a couple of weeks later, and he no longer seemed concerned about the Lakers amnestying his contract. Kobe was on to something else, because he was always on to something else.
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as the man & his character comes to light more

you can see how that colorado chapter should be ripped to pieces

that was simply a desperate woman looking to capitalize on a man having a moment of weakness

he showed who he is more times than can be counted

mans was cut from royal clothe for sure

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I feel the same. It would still be terrible and a tragedy cause Kobe was young. But his daughter passing and knowing the anguish Kobe must have felt not being able to protect her just kills me. I have a little girl just getting into that age range where she is interested in hanging out with dad and doing my hobbies. I always thought man im sure Kobe wishes he had a Boy to play ball and carry the names legacy. But with the recent vids of them together at games and tourneys. You can see Kobe didnt need a boy he had his little girl carrying the name and he was damn proud. Im sad Kobe passed but heart broken for his daughter.
I really feel like Kobe was just happy to have someone that truly shared that love and passion for basketball to the extent that he did. She carried that same fire, passion, and competitiveness for the sport so boy or girl it didn't matter.
 

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This dude died being a father. The same father many in here bashed Bron for being. Do you feel stupid? Does this make you examine yourselves? At no point should our job as fathers ever be viewed as a negative to mock. No point.

this is what makes it hard. He died being a vested father. This shyt is hard to take. I’m getting custody of my oldest son in a few months. Kobe showed me that much more why our jobs are to the end.

this shyt hurts so much man. That wasn’t Kobe the basketball player in the copter. That was Kobe the dad.
 

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Heartbreaking Reason Kobe Bryant Insisted on Flying in Helicopters, In His Own Words

Said he starting flying via helicopter around LA to help him get more time with his girls.:mjcry:
it's clear his motivation was misconstrued early on

they marketed it as fury being the center of his drive

but kobe clearly had a heart that was showing the true definition of love

love as action love as a verb

it's really a human story it's bigger than basketball so much bigger than basketball

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