@King Creole...the Slovenian cac. Step on in.

[AZBeauty]

A lot of people are wishing I was a dyed in the wool, doe-eyed MAGA supporter who believed Trump is a Great Man of History who would lock up Hillary and turn America into some halcyon utopia, when in reality I simply arrived at my hatred of America far earlier than most of you, far before President Trump made it fashionable. 2016 was a gamble between a known anesthetic and a wild card vessel of disorder. I admit, I let my due hatred of the former lead me to give too much slack to the latter, but I still haven't heard a good argument for why we'd be better off long-term with the ostrich approach of a 3rd term of the abject failure that was the Obama administration that brought us to this point. That's Bidenism.

Whether Trump followed through on his promises was secondary to the effect he would have on the American political status quo. I don't need daps or reps from people who spent the past few years enthralled with Russian conspiracy fever dreams and prayers to Robert fukking Mueller of all people, I consider the emergence of the progressive revolution my just reward.

So, where do you live now and/or where were you born? Did you answer anyone who asked that?

 

[King Kreole]

So, where do you live now and/or where were you born? Did you answer anyone who asked that?

I was born in the UK, I live in the States now.

 

[Black Panther]

A lot of people are wishing I was a dyed in the wool, doe-eyed MAGA supporter who believed Trump is a Great Man of History who would lock up Hillary and turn America into some halcyon utopia, when in reality I simply arrived at my hatred of America far earlier than most of you, far before President Trump made it fashionable. 2016 was a gamble between a known anesthetic and a wild card vessel of disorder. I admit, I let my due hatred of the former lead me to give too much slack to the latter, but I still haven't heard a good argument for why we'd be better off long-term with the ostrich approach of a 3rd term of the abject failure that was the Obama administration that brought us to this point. That's Bidenism.

Whether Trump followed through on his promises was secondary to the effect he would have on the American political status quo. I don't need daps or reps from people who spent the past few years enthralled with Russian conspiracy fever dreams and prayers to Robert fukking Mueller of all people, I consider the emergence of the progressive revolution my just reward.

You argued that:

A.) Trump's "disruption of the status quo" would cause a progressive wellspring to emerge in response, and

B.) Trump is a supporter of progressive policies like universal healthcare (

), wresting control of the political process from private industry (

), and redistribution of wealth for Blacks (

).

Which on is it? Is Trump a crypto-progressive, or is he so anti-progressive that his presidency would invoke a progressive firestorm as a result?

You can't have it both ways.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Cacs

 

[King Kreole]

You argued that:

A.) Trump's "disruption of the status quo" would cause a progressive wellspring to emerge in response, and

And has it not?

B.) Trump is a supporter of progressive policies like universal healthcare ( :mjlolhairfade: )

This wasn't some philosophical reading of the tea leaves, he either did or didn't at times come out in support of universal healthcare. Either this video is real, or it's a deepfake by Russian hackers.


Bernie Sanders and I believe the former. I would like to think you believe the former as well, but I think you were one of the most prominent Russia-gaters, so I'm not really sure.

wresting control of the political process from private industry ( :mjlolhairfade::mjlolhairfade: )

I'm not exactly sure what you mean by this, but I'm going to assume it's corruption? Draining the swamp of political corruption is a great idea, which is why Liz has made it a central tenet of her campaign. It's also the most egregious difference between Candidate Trump and President Trump.

and redistribution of wealth for Blacks ( :mjlolhairfade::mjlolhairfade::mjlolhairfade: ).

Certain policies that he campaigned on - namely the reversal of neoliberal trade agreements and promotion of economically nationalist policies similar to those of Liz Warren and Bernie Sanders - would certainly have created more space for Black wealth to increase.

You can't have it both ways. :reallyson:

Candidate Trump campaigning on B.) (in addition to a host of other reprehensible things) is what made A.) possible. Not only can you have it both ways, but you cannot have one without the other.

 

[Black Panther]

And has it not?

The current progressive movement is not a reaction to Trump's campaign or presidency. Correlation does not imply causation.

This wasn't some philosophical reading of the tea leaves, he either did or didn't at times come out in support of universal healthcare.

Let me say this again for you.

anyone who takes Trump at his word--in anything--is a complete imbecile.

You could tell from the beginning he was talking out of his ass.

I'm not exactly sure what you mean by this, but I'm going to assume it's corruption? Draining the swamp of political corruption is a great idea, which is why Liz has made it a central tenet of her campaign. It's also the most egregious difference between Candidate Trump and President Trump.

Let me say this again for you.

anyone who takes Trump at his word--in anything--is a complete imbecile.

Trump has had the second most corrupt administration in modern history, short of W. Bush.

 

[AndroidHero]

I swear I remember this guy being a part of the the Trumpest during the last election, its very confusing that he is supporting Warren now.

 

[King Kreole]

You could tell from the beginning he was talking out of his ass. :bpmjtf:



Let me say this again for you.



Trump has had the second most corrupt administration in modern history, short of W. Bush. :reallyson:

You're still assuming/hoping that I'm sort of MAGA shythead who loves Donald Trump and hope he succeeds, so let me say this again for you.

I don't give a fukk if he was talking out of his ass, he commanded a large cult following who was responding to whatever he was saying.

My support strategy wasn't predicated on the truthfulness of his schizophrenic statements, they were predicated on the space that would open up if he was elected. It ultimately didn't matter if he was truthful and would pursue those progressive agendas or he was lying and breaks the political status quo while granting legitimacy to the progressive counter. Both end with a mainstreaming of the progressive agenda.

You have never seen me defend Donald Trump as some sort of fukking moral arbiter or righteous dude. He is a useful idiot who expended his value the day he was elected. I think he and the rest of his administration should be brought before the Hague and shot.

 

[King Kreole]

I swear I remember this guy being a part of the the Trumpest during the last election, its very confusing that he is supporting Warren now.

It actually makes perfect sense if you can wrap your head around the fact that I hate America.

Either way, trying to parse my political motivations seems to be a task too difficult for many, so just vote for Liz and progressives down-ballot.

 

[AndroidHero]

Ok for the record I'm black, I've never been to Slovenia in my life, honestly couldn't even point it out on a map. Literally some poster ridiculously accused me of posting like a Slovenian and I said "Yes, I am Slovenian." as a joke. That's the entire origin story of the Slovenian thing.

A poster on thecoli claimed you post like a Slovenian?!!! BS.

 

[King Kreole]

A poster on thecoli claimed you post like a Slovenian?!!! BS.

I'm saying

Not only that, I said I was like 12 years old or something and they ran with that too

12 year old Slovenian talking about Clintonian Third Way Triangulation and Marxist Accelerationism...that election cooked a lot of people's brains.

 

[jj23]

You're still assuming/hoping that I'm sort of MAGA shythead who loves Donald Trump and hope he succeeds

 

[Black Panther]

You're still assuming/hoping that I'm sort of MAGA shythead who loves Donald Trump

Where did I say or imply this?

I just said you're a gullible fool. Sure, you may not be the same type of gullible fool as a typical MAGAcac, but you're a gullible fool nonetheless. Nothing you've said has convinced me otherwise.

My support strategy wasn't predicated on the truthfulness of his schizophrenic statements, they were predicated on the space that would open up if he was elected.

Your statement here is schizophrenic in and of itself.

It seems that you think Trump's chaos was going to bring order.

SPOILER ALERT: Chaos only begets more chaos.

 

[King Kreole]

Where did I say or imply this? :bpthink:

I just said you're a gullible fool. Sure, you may not be the same type of gullible fool as a typical MAGAcac, but you're a gullible fool nonetheless. Nothing you've said has convinced me otherwise. :kanyebp:

ok thanks for stopping by.

Your statement here is schizophrenic in and of itself. :denzelcmonson:

It seems that you think Trump's chaos was going to bring order.

SPOILER ALERT: Chaos only begets more chaos.

Oh, you're one of those "The extreme right AND the extreme left need to calm down" types. This all makes a lot more sense now.

 

[Pressure]

My man was in the Trumpset threat posting outing Gifs like Nap

I do have serious questions, but I'm busy at work and can only get these jokes off.