🌕 Killers Of The Flower Moon’ 🌕-- Martin Scorsese, Leonardo DiCaprio & Robert De Niro (Discussion Thread)

[Rick Fox at UNC]

Most predictable movie I've seen in the last 10 years. 30 min is enough for you to guess the remaining 3 hours.

Facts, basically what I said in my previous comment. I didn't know anything about this historical event and yeah after half an hour you've figured out the whole movie basically.

You can say this about a fair number of films, books, TV shows, whatever else. Who cares? To quote Nabokov:

"...This is the whole of the story, and we might have left it there had it not been for the profit and pleasure in the telling."

It's not about corny plot twists, its about revealing something about the human and American character.

 

[Nuuko]

You can say this about a fair number of films, books, TV shows, whatever else. Who cares? To quote Nabokov:

"...This is the whole of the story, and we might have left it there had it not been for the profit and pleasure in the telling."

It's not about corny plot twists, its about revealing something about the human and American character.

Still think its underwhelming.
Just because you reveal something about the human and american character doesn't mean it's good...its all about how you do it.

 

[mbewane]

You can say this about a fair number of films, books, TV shows, whatever else. Who cares? To quote Nabokov:

"...This is the whole of the story, and we might have left it there had it not been for the profit and pleasure in the telling."

It's not about corny plot twists, its about revealing something about the human and American character.

Who cares? I do, as someone who went and saw the movie and lost more than 3 hours of my life. And I'm not talking about "corny plot twists", I'm talking about just having a minimal level or intrigue, tension, build up, etc. Movie is basically done after 30 min, we know who is killing the Osages, how and why, and then it's three hours of mid filler dialogue, a couple explosions and a couple burials. Also White people stealing the land from Indians isn't much of a "revelation" lol

 

[Walter H White]

7.25/10

Was a chore to sit through 3 hours+ of this. Nicely shot and acting was well done by Deniro and Leo, but the story dragged too much.

 

[wire28]

Sounds like we need to make reservations at Larry Holmes Gardens for a Mr. Martin Charles Scorsese. How many times is he gonna have to crawl to Leo and Bobby D. for that stimulus package to save him??

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

aww look Marvel nerds are still upset at the GOAT lol...

 

[BillBanneker]

Who cares? I do, as someone who went and saw the movie and lost more than 3 hours of my life. And I'm not talking about "corny plot twists", I'm talking about just having a minimal level or intrigue, tension, build up, etc. Movie is basically done after 30 min, we know who is killing the Osages, how and why, and then it's three hours of mid filler dialogue, a couple explosions and a couple burials. Also White people stealing the land from Indians isn't much of a "revelation" lol

Ehh this is what I was worried about. I’ll wait for it to hit Apple TV now.

 

[wire28]

Cinema.

Oppenheimer is still winning the Oscars though

It’s time Martin Charles goes home to be a family man and leaves the cinema for the true auteurs like Mr. Nolan. Hopefully Leo can put his recent movies with him down in the volunteer section of his resume as charity work with the elderly. That’d be nice.

 

[THE 101]

Beautiful film.

Much more like a noir than a western except if a noir was from the point of view of the villains.

I loved how it moved. It did not feel like 3 and a half hours. It slowly established the world in the first hour and then little by little the crimes and evils escalated and escalated, and I also really enjoyed the almost procedural aspect to the investigation and trial. It was assured, confident storytelling.

There's something about Scorsese's late style that I love so much. It's much more minimalist but it has this grace that just feels like you're in the hands of an old master.

Lily Gladstone was great. I think the one thing that I'm still not entirely sure how to read is her relationship with Di Caprio. I think there's some stuff in there that is purposely enigmatic. It's a very layered, unusual dynamic between them that I think will grow with repeat viewings.

The montage of murders towards the beginning was very effective and unsettling. Beautiful and understated use of score throughout.

Great film, probably my favorite film of the year.

 

[FlyRy]

Beautiful film.

Much more like a noir than a western except if a noir was from the point of view of the villains.

I loved how it moved. It did not feel like 3 and a half hours. It slowly established the world in the first hour and then little by little the crimes and evils escalated and escalated, and I also really enjoyed the almost procedural aspect to the investigation and trial. It was assured, confident storytelling.

There's something about Scorsese's late style that I love so much. It's much more minimalist but it has this grace that just feels like you're in the hands of an old master.

Lily Gladstone was great. I think the one thing that I'm still not entirely sure how to read is her relationship with Di Caprio. I think there's some stuff in there that is purposely enigmatic. It's a very layered, unusual dynamic between them that I think will grow with repeat viewings.

The montage of murders towards the beginning was very effective and unsettling. Beautiful and understated use of score throughout.

Great film, probably my favorite film of the year.

https://spotify.link/ibIHF9U74Db

 

[Mission249]

Movie is basically done after 30 min, we know who is killing the Osages, how and why, and then it's three hours of mid filler dialogue, a couple explosions and a couple burials. Also White people stealing the land from Indians isn't much of a "revelation" lol

Yeah, we knew Oppenheimer was gonna make the bomb in the first 2 minutes so that was a bad movie too

Imagine going into a historical drama concerned about being surprised by well documented history.
If you have issues with the cinematography, acting, pacing, etc then have at it. But your actual critique is as garbage as you think the film is.

 

[mbewane]

Yeah, we knew Oppenheimer was gonna make the bomb in the first 2 minutes so that was a bad movie too

Imagine going into a historical drama concerned about being surprised by well documented history.
If you have issues with the cinematography, acting, pacing, etc then have at it. But your actually critique is as garbage as you think the film is.

Scorsese stans big mad

Good thing you brought up Oppenheimer, we know what's gonna happen but pacing, cinematography, acting, dialogue, music keep it interesting, as opposed to this snooze fest

 

[Piffiztheanswer]

Wanted to watch this while i was passing thru Oklahoma.

 

[semicko82]

Great movie
Yea they could've knocked 20 to 30 minutes off, and it could have been a masterpiece.

It reminds me of those old school western movies from the late 60s to early 80s.
Very deliberately paced

4.5/5

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

I didn't catch his name but one of the Osage higher ups gave this incredible speech about midway through the film... We was

I was ready to suit up and fight alongside them after that