Kevin Samuels Discussion Thread

[Max.]

Man this dude singn n humming shyt...laughing at his own jokes for mins
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[DreadBrown]

Lying to your woman cause you are afraid to man up and tell her how you really feel or what you really want in the relationship is beta male behavior.

And doesn't matter what a hvm would put up with cause they wont know. Women hide cheating better than guys do. Most hvm are not home a lot cause they are working. Unless you are around your woman 24/7 you dont know what she is doing. And you would be a fool to think otherwise if you are doing dirt yourself. There are plenty of women who date hvm and know how to play the game and are playing their husbands who are naive and think just like you.

You know how many rich housewives are getting piped by pedro the pool boy cause their bored at home and their husbands are always busy? And a lot of wealthy dudes end up cuckolds cause they know they cant satisfy their wives or dont care too anymore cause they got mistresses.

The equivalent of a woman wanting a man that's 2pac in a business suit making 400k and faithful is a man wanting a woman that's young and fertile freak in the bed, low body count, a 9 or 10 in looks, cooks and cleans, lets them cheat, satisfied with her man being a minute man, and doesn't have any urge to ever cheat herself.

This sound like alot of theory bro what’s the longest relationship you been in?

Lying about infidelity is as old as time and is nothing to do with being an alpha/beta male

Most people don’t want to hurt/loose the person they love

 

[HarlemHottie]

Lying about infidelity is as old as time and is nothing to do with being an alpha/beta male

It kinda does tho. Out of all the cheating situations ive heard of, the alphas be like, 'Yeah, and...? "

Spoiler

I was almost cheated on once, with an ex who was an alpha both socially and sexually. Bc i wanted to keep him (not for emotional reasons), i proposed a two way open relationship, oral only. He accepted.

Girls used to tell me what was happening like i was gon be mad. When i laughed and thanked them for their service, they deflated and got very confused.

 

[Nigerianwonder]

Lying about infidelity is as old as time and is nothing to do with being an alpha/beta male

Most people don’t want to hurt/loose the person they .

Most people do lie. Even hvm. That's the whole point of my argument. Most women and humans in general though are NOT cool with being lied to or misled. A lot get more upset about being lied to then the actual cheating itself. If you lie to your wife you are in the wrong. period. If you don't get caught then cool, but you are playing a dangerous game. Don't get mad if she leaves and takes half if she finds out cause when you lie it's on you not her. And even if she does stay the relationship is never the same once trust is broken. Don't be surprised if she does her own cheating on low now that she knows it's a business marriage and not one based on love and trust.

This is why I said KS can't gloss over the key point he made that men should be honest and make an agreement up front. Yall only focused on the men should be able to have multiple women part and ran with it. Although I agree with 90% of what he says Kevin gonna have a lotta yall messed up out here.

 

[DreadBrown]

It kinda does tho. Out of all the cheating situations ive heard of, the alphas be like, 'Yeah, and...? "

Spoiler

I was almost cheated on once, with an ex who was an alpha both socially and sexually. Bc i wanted to keep him (not for emotional reasons), i proposed a two way open relationship, oral only. He accepted.

Girls used to tell me what was happening like i was gon be mad. When i laughed and thanked them for their service, they deflated and got very confused.

I get what you saying but having an arrangement and cheating are two different things imo.

I agree with what Kevin says about being discreet with it if there’s no set arrangement in place.

I’ve been that guy and looking back it wasn’t worth the cool points. I remember having the convo with my ex and it was mainly because I didnt care about how she felt about it anymore. Depending on the woman it can be more destructive than constructive.

 

[DreadBrown]

Most people do lie. Even hvm. That's the whole point of my argument. Most women and humans in general though are NOT cool with being lied to or misled. A lot get more upset about being lied to then the actual cheating itself. If you lie to your wife you are in the wrong. period. If you don't get caught then cool, but you are playing a dangerous game. Don't get mad if she leaves and takes half if she finds out cause when you lie it's on you not her. And even if she does stay the relationship is never the same once trust is broken. Don't be surprised if she does her own cheating on low now that she knows it's a business marriage and not one based on love and trust.

This is why I said KS can't gloss over the key point he made that men should be honest and make an agreement up front. Yall only focused on the men should be able to have multiple women part and ran with it. Although I agree with 90% of what he says Kevin gonna have a lotta yall messed up out here.

I dunno who y’all is my g.

I speak on what Kevin says from the perspective of my own personal experiences with women that’s why I asked how long your longest relationship was.

I get you’re saying don’t lie but your arguement seem more like idealism than reality based.

 

[HARLEM AL]

What is that "laugh" that women do, when their explaining that Bullshyt ass stories, as if it's cute and funny.

I really want to know what the "laugh/giggle" do for them. KS be looking serious as a pitbull



The laugh must be a universal thing...I can't stand that shyt...When women explain Bullshyt, always look for the "laugh/giggle" ... Dead-giveaway that they themselves aint shyt

I think they do that because they know it’s a bullshyt answer/story. They really telling on themselves.

 

[Nigerianwonder]

I dunno who y’all is my g.

I speak on what Kevin says from the perspective of my own personal experiences with women that’s why I asked how long your longest relationship was.

I get you’re saying don’t lie but your arguement seem more like idealism than reality based.

I'm a hvm. I'm speaking from relationship experience. I don't lie to women cause I don't have to. There are plenty of women down for whatever and open to alternative lifestyles outside of monogamy especially when your spending money on them. The tradeoff is these women are often promiscuous or sometimes not 9 or 10s.

Idealism is thinking a woman gonna be cool with you lying and cheating on her.

 

[HarlemHottie]

I get what you saying but having an arrangement and cheating are two different things imo

Exactly. That's my point. I was willing to accept other women- i damn near expected it due to his value- but sneaking would have made him look weak to me (beta) AND could have potentially exposed me to stds.

I would have been FORCED to leave, even if i really didn't want to, just to protect my physical safety. Instead, he came to me in his alpha frame and i could take it or leave it. We negotiated my caveats and reached an agreement. We were 17. If we could do it, adults can do it.

Also, nobody respects a liar.

Don't be that guy, is all im saying.

 

[DreadBrown]

I'm a hvm. I'm speaking from relationship experience. I don't lie to women cause I don't have to. There are plenty of women down for whatever and open to alternative lifestyles outside of monogamy especially when your spending money on them. The tradeoff is these women are often promiscuous or sometimes not 9 or 10s.

Idealism is thinking a woman gonna be cool with you lying and cheating on her.

My bro I didn’t ask if you a hvm or not, I asked how long you’ve longest relationship was. I don’t doubt you’ve had ‘relationship experience’ we all grown but all your posts sound theoretical so I’m wondering if this is shyt you’ve actually lived.

You said the bolded instead of ‘I don’t lie to my wife’ so are you talking about women that you date?

 

[HARLEM AL]

My bro I didn’t ask if you a hvm or not, I asked how long you’ve longest relationship was. I don’t doubt you’ve had ‘relationship experience’ we all grown but all your posts sound theoretical so I’m wondering if this is shyt you’ve actually lived.

You said the bolded instead of ‘I don’t lie to my wife’ so are you talking about women that you date?

Lying to women is beta shyt. But I do understand your point of not wanting to hurt the other person. A man who is Alpha doesn’t give a fukk about that. His integrity is more important than lying.


If you want to fukk other women let her know. Then you figure the rest out from there. If that’s what you wanted you should have asked for that in the beginning of the relationship or let them know is it you are going to be doing in the relationship.

 

[DreadBrown]

Exactly. That's my point. I was willing to accept other women- i damn near expected it due to his value- but sneaking would have made him look weak to me (beta) AND could have potentially exposed me to stds.

I would have been FORCED to leave, even if i really didn't want to, just to protect my physical safety. Instead, he came to me in his alpha frame and i could take it or leave it. We negotiated my caveats and reached an agreement. We were 17. If we could do it, adults can do it.

Also, nobody respects a liar.

Don't be that guy, is all im saying.

Your mindset is different to most thats why you winning but we know that already



I totally get what you’re saying, I could tell some stories bout this shyt but it get deep and I don’t put me and mines business out there like that.

All I will say is some women will say or even believe that they’re down for that life but when reality hit it hit different.

 

[HarlemHottie]

Your mindset is different to most thats why you winning but we know that already



I totally get what you’re saying, I could tell some stories bout this shyt but it get deep and I don’t put me and mines business out there like that.

All I will say is some women will say or even believe that they’re down for that life but when reality hit it hit different.

Im not sure that's fair. There are so many sneaky cheaters out here fukking up the game, you almost can't blame women for forgetting the honest ones exist. They're so rare... like alphas, incidentally.

That may depend on how it's done. My ex was very good at making sure my time was never infringed upon. That worked for me since our attachment wasnt especially emotional. A more emotionally attached woman would naturally have different needs. Another type of woman might need your credit card in order to cope properly.

But, major key: that's for him to figure out. Do not, do not, do not, ASK a woman who, kindly, agreed to an arrangement "How can we make this okay for you?" She will respond with contempt.

 

[GodinDaFlesh]

Most people do lie. Even hvm. That's the whole point of my argument. Most women and humans in general though are NOT cool with being lied to or misled. A lot get more upset about being lied to then the actual cheating itself. If you lie to your wife you are in the wrong. period. If you don't get caught then cool, but you are playing a dangerous game. Don't get mad if she leaves and takes half if she finds out cause when you lie it's on you not her. And even if she does stay the relationship is never the same once trust is broken. Don't be surprised if she does her own cheating on low now that she knows it's a business marriage and not one based on love and trust.

This is why I said KS can't gloss over the key point he made that men should be honest and make an agreement up front. Yall only focused on the men should be able to have multiple women part and ran with it. Although I agree with 90% of what he says Kevin gonna have a lotta yall messed up out here.

Good point, women hate the lying part more than they do the actual cheating. I think if a lot of men were more upfront about their desire to sleep with other women a lot of women wouldn't actually mind it.

 

[CASHAPP]

I'm a hvm. I'm speaking from relationship experience. I don't lie to women cause I don't have to. There are plenty of women down for whatever and open to alternative lifestyles outside of monogamy especially when your spending money on them. The tradeoff is these women are often promiscuous or sometimes not 9 or 10s.

Idealism is thinking a woman gonna be cool with you lying and cheating on her.

Really? I thought that ironically it was always the biggest thots and smuts that try to make all these rules about their man better not cheating on them and making a big deal like Cardi and countless others have done. They fukked every man stepping out on their girl but have issues with their man doing it to them

while traditionally hasn’t it been the classy wife material women who are more quiet and have been known to “turn a blind eye”? The loud promiscuous women seem to be the ones always complaining about infidelity