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Lying to women is beta shyt. But I do understand your point of not wanting to hurt the other person. A man who is Alpha doesn’t give a fukk about that. His integrity is more important than lying.


If you want to fukk other women let her know. Then you figure the rest out from there. If that’s what you wanted you should have asked for that in the beginning of the relationship or let them know is it you are going to be doing in the relationship.
Alpha beta argument is so stupid and worthless man. I do agree though, i've said before, I really don't like when brehs act like stone cold playas and they are telling a woman everything she wants to hear. Selling her dreams just to hit and then tell them you're confused or ghost.

IMO that's just weird behavior, like my g, you gotta finesse your way into the cheeks? Either way, it's not alpha or beta to lie. Some truth can be hurtful.
 

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And before any retard jumps stupid at this conversation, we're specifically talking about black women of all "educational" levels who chase after drug dealers and gang bangers.

okay but this brings up a good question. What does a man do if his woman makes significantly more and you aren't a rapper,dealer or gang banger? There's obviously social clout in those things.

That's an even bigger issue IMO. There's a lot of women who have left college and entered the workforce in STEM or for nursing jobs, etc.

If she's making 100k and you work your 9-5 and make 60k, whats your move and how do you maintain the relationship? Does the man become the domestic duty person or does the man break his bank paying for everything? because a lot of these women make a dollar amount, but refuse to do any domestic work.
 

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okay but this brings up a good question. What does a man do if his woman makes significantly more and you aren't a rapper,dealer or gang banger? There's obviously social clout in those things.

That's an even bigger issue IMO. There's a lot of women who have left college and entered the workforce in STEM or for nursing jobs, etc.

If she's making 100k and you work your 9-5 and make 60k, whats your move and how do you maintain the relationship? Does the man become the domestic duty person or does the man break his bank paying for everything? because a lot of these women make a dollar amount, but refuse to do any domestic work.

Only way a woman is going to deal with that imbalance in income long term is if the guy is her physical ideal and is destroying the p*ssy. Both boxes have to be checked.

Even then, her respect for him is only going to go so far.

Black women, more than any other women, fully expect to be taken care of by a man. All women want to be taken care of by a man. But, Black women fully expect it. It’s largely due to their elevated levels of religiosity and not wanting to struggle like the single women they saw in their upbringings.

For them, they’d rather go it alone than have to consistently reach in their purses when with a man. In their minds, they can support themselves just fine. What use are you to them as a man if they are still going to have to pay for stuff?

There’s really no way around it. The Black man is going to have to build wealth, build infrastructure and create jobs if we want a consistent level of femininity and cooperation from our women as a collective.

A good mouthpiece and looking the part will only go so far with women as the economy continues to offer them accelerated paths to upper middle class lifestyles. You’re going to have to bring it in all areas as a man.
 
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Only way a woman is going to deal with that imbalance in income long term is if the guy is her physical ideal and is destroying the p*ssy. Both boxes have to be checked.

Even then, her respect for him is only going to go so far.

Black women, more than any other women, fully expect to be taken care of by a man. All women want to be taken care of by a man. But, Black women fully expect it. It’s largely due to their elevated levels of religiosity.
Might be some truth.

I've dated two women who made more than me for long term relationships. Ended weird for various reasons.
 

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Alpha beta argument is so stupid and worthless man. I do agree though, i've said before, I really don't like when brehs act like stone cold playas and they are telling a woman everything she wants to hear. Selling her dreams just to hit and then tell them you're confused or ghost.

IMO that's just weird behavior, like my g, you gotta finesse your way into the cheeks? Either way, it's not alpha or beta to lie. Some truth can be hurtful.
While I do think it’s over used. The problem I think you might have is people weaponize it. But it’s think it’s valid.

And although it is weird but dudes are scared of women. Their validation depends on women liking them.
 

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A guy discussing "rules" upfront with a woman is the rare exception and not what normally happens. Kevin knows this. He always gets on women for trying to use exceptions to make a point but in this case he is doing the same thing.

Men learn at an early age that lying makes things easier when dealing with women. Few women can take the harsh truth. It’s kinda wild really. My wife and I were watching “All American” and I asked her if I had a fling with someone early in our marriage would you want me to tell you years later and she was like “no. What’s the point?” I appreciated that level of maturity on the topic.

HVM or not, discussing rules up front might not work. Because a woman will say she’s cool with it to get a foot in the door and switch it up later. I’ve seen this happen with my own eyes. So to bring it full circle, a lot of men just say fukk it and lie.
 

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Kevin might have just changed the game wit the "HVM cheat" narrative

alot of chicks are ready to throw in the towel and marry the mail-carrier now that they've discovered that elite-level men have options.

they didnt wanna listen before - but I think this topic has convinced them to lower their expectations and aim for the UberEats driver - instead of the 6-figure brother.


salute KS :salute:


The catch is...








... then nikkas cheat too. :lolbron:


There is no need to do a deep exercise on why people cheat. They do it because they can and they have the option to. When an urge arises and the option is there... :francis:

I believe most women know this deep down and that’s why they still go for the top tier men. Because if they’re gonna get cheated on, at least it’s by highly desirable man.

I know a beautiful girl who dated this nerdy fat breh in college. He was sweating her for years. She finally gave him a chance and things were good. She bought this nikka video game systems, stepped his gear up, etc. He wound up cheating on her after she built him :mjlol:
 

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okay but this brings up a good question. What does a man do if his woman makes significantly more and you aren't a rapper,dealer or gang banger? There's obviously social clout in those things.

That's an even bigger issue IMO. There's a lot of women who have left college and entered the workforce in STEM or for nursing jobs, etc.

If she's making 100k and you work your 9-5 and make 60k, whats your move and how do you maintain the relationship? Does the man become the domestic duty person or does the man break his bank paying for everything? because a lot of these women make a dollar amount, but refuse to do any domestic work.
These conversations are disingenuous because it is rare for any black women to meet an available black man making $60k gross. That’s roughly $28.85/hour in a 40-hour workweek. That doesn’t include vacation and overtime. That $60k breh is running through hoodrats and bourgeois women if he is looking the part.
I don’t want to go deep but the internet is the internet. Those same women would be content with a guy they find attractive with a job. Sadly, our women, black women, are very vain and are attracted to the visual aesthetics and allure of men and then dig deeper later after becoming sexual to discover the dude’s character. Black women do it the “right” way for men they are not initially attracted to.
 

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This video would make a platinum thread in TLR.:lolbron:
A :flabbynsick: college educated woman is willing to date an unemployed drug dealer, but won't deal with a man who makes $40k a year legally.:wow:



This is a damn shame, you can tell Kev was taken aback by it when he walked off at the end
 

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Kevin might have just changed the game wit the "HVM cheat" narrative

alot of chicks are ready to throw in the towel and marry the mail-carrier now that they've discovered that elite-level men have options.

they didnt wanna listen before - but I think this topic has convinced them to lower their expectations and aim for the UberEats driver - instead of the 6-figure brother.


salute KS :salute:
That isn’t really a win tbh

They’re still coming to the table disingenuously with contempt for regular average men and would leave them if they even thought they had a slither of a chance with a hvm

That’s why Kev be pulling these chick’s cards when they say that “infidelity is my dealbreaker so I can’t deal with a hvm”, it’s clearly not what they want but they’ll say they can date a normal guy just to win brownie points with Kev but he sees thru it

These hoes need to be made an example out of and starved out, as a regular dude I wouldn’t wish any of these vain ass females on any man, high value or not
 

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okay but this brings up a good question. What does a man do if his woman makes significantly more and you aren't a rapper,dealer or gang banger?

I agree with @mamba. No matter how great or nice of a guy you are, black women of our generation and younger will not respect you in the long-run unless you're paying a significant portion of the bills.
 

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These conversations are disingenuous because it is rare for any black women to meet an available black man making $60k gross. That’s roughly $28.85/hour in a 40-hour workweek. That doesn’t include vacation and overtime. That $60k breh is running through hoodrats and bourgeois women if he is looking the part.
I don’t want to go deep but the internet is the internet. Those same women would be content with a guy they find attractive with a job. Sadly, our women, black women, are very vain and are attracted to the visual aesthetics and allure of men and then dig deeper later after becoming sexual to discover the dude’s character. Black women do it the “right” way for men they are not initially attracted to.

These are facts. Our women put a lot of emphasis on how a man looks and dresses compared to other women.

That’s because she sees the man as an accessory to her overall look. When she steps out in public, she wants to be seen since she feels so invisible and unwanted otherwise.

She wants her man to attract eyes as well since that also puts additional attention on her by extension.

If you’re going to deal with Black women, that’s part of the package you’re just going to have to accept. It’s extra work because you have to spend a lot more time focusing on fashion and other stuff. You’ll be at the mall a lot more than normal! You’ll also be spending a lot more money keeping your wardrobe up with the times. Which will take away from some of your investments.

You don’t have to do as much of that dealing with non-Black women. I bet that cac married to Serena barely shops for clothes.
 

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This old video randomly came on my recommendations. Sounded just like you could put this video today and just repose Tariq with KS and it would be the same thing.
 
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