Kevin Samuels Discussion Thread

[TRUEST]

I'm super cool with the ceo's wife. Like, 'invite us to the house for a weekend' cool.

My man is, no cap, best at the company, but he didn't hit management until i wowed a few ppl. He's anti social, so i do that work for him/ us.

I get that u were being a good partner. But it’s sad Ur not seeing the bigger picture. The idea of having to “wow” people or make them like u by probably being overly nice, is troubling.

I guess people are different.

how about ur man be so damn good at his job they bend over backwards to make him happy? Your man is not the first antisocial man out there. They’re out there galore and they do great things.

the picture u just painted here is pitiful and the fact that u typed it up as something to be proud of is ridiculous. I hope they’re not white.

 

[HarlemHottie]

The idea of having to “wow” people or make them like u by probably being overly nice, is troubling.

Im never overly nice to wp. My mother was a panther. That's not how i wow.

Your scope is very narrow.

Edit bc i got a minute. Im taken aback at the disgusted tone of your reply, but i realize that these skills are no longer actively cultivated, so you don't know what you don't know. Its beyond the scope of this thread, but white people run to open doors for me.
I wow ppl. But definitely not by c00ning.

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

This is all white man shyt. Most black men ain't getting invited to all that. Besides, I rather me and the wife start our own business.



Them are the same dudes that get cheated on or complain about paying thousands in child support What purpose is there to get married this day and age with divorce rates so high? I'd get some young side pieces and bring them through

I get that u were being a good partner. But it’s sad Ur not seeing the bigger picture. The idea of having to “wow” people or make them like u by probably being overly nice, is troubling.

I guess people are different.

how about ur man be so damn good at his job they bend over backwards to make him happy? Your man is not the first antisocial man out there. They’re out there galore and they do great things.

the picture u just painted here is pitiful and the fact that u typed it up as something to be proud of is ridiculous. I hope they’re not white.

It's not so deep as what you two think. And if you're going to own your own business, you'll do some sort of variation of this as well.

You're going to hire people right? If not... most companies hire people correct? Out of those hundreds, to thousands, of people who try for each job, you really think you can't find 20 that have the same elite skillset?? Of course you can. Now how are you going to narrow it down from that? An interview process right? You know this isn't the same person they present to their friends and family. But you need to see they are going to come in looking and smelling clean, ready to work, about to have a conversation, not full of complete shyt, can explain their skills in words, all that...

So who are you going to hire? The scruffy ass bum ass dude, the well put together quiet guy, or the guy who is well dressed, funny, likes the same movies you do, plays the same video games, and is also on the coli





Ok now who you bringing in as a business partner later on? The funny guy from the coli who never speaks to you after he clocks out... Or the other funny guy, who you also have drinks with on saturday, and whose wife is good friends with yours??


Come on man

 

[TRUEST]

It's not so deep as what you two think. And if you're going to own your own business, you'll do some sort of variation of this as well.

You're going to hire people right? If not... most companies hire people correct? Out of those hundreds, to thousands, of people who try for each job, you really think you can't find 20 that have the same elite skillset?? Of course you can. Now how are you going to narrow it down from that? An interview process right? You know this isn't the same person they present to their friends and family. But you need to see they are going to come in looking and smelling clean, ready to work, about to have a conversation, not full of complete shyt, can explain their skills in words, all that...

So who are you going to hire? The scruffy ass bum ass dude, the well put together quiet guy, or the guy who is well dressed, funny, likes the same movies you do, plays the same video games, and is also on the coli





Ok now who you bringing in as a business partner later on? The funny guy from the coli who never speaks to you after he clocks out... Or the other funny guy, who you also have drinks with on saturday, and whose wife is good friends with yours??


Come on man

youre essentially saying here you’ll pick someone u can have fun with, over a more competent person.

See, it is imperative you understand that the work place is not a popularity contest. The whole purpose of being at work is to make money. If you put your social aspirations first before profits, that says a lot about your decision making skills.

Think of it like this. Ur house needs a paint job. There’s one guy who’s known as the best painter in town. But he’s not friendly. He’s not rude either but he’s just not a chatty patty type. But then u have a friend who also paints. But doesn’t have the same type of experience as the first guy. This is your house. Who are you picking for the job?

 

[Cat piss martini]

translation: please dont stick dikk to my
wife unless i can get to watch and jack
my little pink shrimp dikk off.
sick cracka babble.

 

[ThrobbingHood]

youre essentially saying here you’ll pick someone u can have fun with, over a more competent person

Breh... that’s how the real world is.

I’ve seen so many incompetent CACs get promoted, that it’s impossible to not see that’s how it is.

The house painting analogy doesn’t work because they’re there to do one job and leave. Who gets promoted may be there for decades. So it’s no surprise someone will
choose their less competent buddy over the more skilled less social guy.

I learned that the hard way. But that thankfully pushed me to become independent and not rely on these CACs and their good Ol’ boys club.

 

[ThrobbingHood]

@The Devil's Advocate you’re wasting these jewels you’re dropping. Some people aren’t going to heed your wisdom no matter what.

I’ve worked in the corporate world long enough to see that it’s not a meritocracy, not in the slightest. It’s all about who you know and who likes you. It’s as simple as.

 

[Clay Puppington]

youre essentially saying here you’ll pick someone u can have fun with, over a more competent person.

See, it is imperative you understand that the work place is not a popularity contest. The whole purpose of being at work is to make money. If you put your social aspirations first before profits, that says a lot about your decision making skills.

Think of it like this. Ur house needs a paint job. There’s one guy who’s known as the best painter in town. But he’s not friendly. He’s not rude either but he’s just not a chatty patty type. But then u have a friend who also paints. But doesn’t have the same type of experience as the first guy. This is your house. Who are you picking for the job?

Hope you ain't a grown man cause this is teenage levels of naivete

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

youre essentially saying here you’ll pick someone u can have fun with, over a more competent person.

See, it is imperative you understand that the work place is not a popularity contest. The whole purpose of being at work is to make money. If you put your social aspirations first before profits, that says a lot about your decision making skills.

Think of it like this. Ur house needs a paint job. There’s one guy who’s known as the best painter in town. But he’s not friendly. He’s not rude either but he’s just not a chatty patty type. But then u have a friend who also paints. But doesn’t have the same type of experience as the first guy. This is your house. Who are you picking for the job?

I didn't basically say that at ALL



I sat right there and said skills will be COMPARABLE.. So think of it like this... Your house needs a paint job... There isn't one guy known as the best in town, cause who in the fukk got a whole town, city, state, nation on lock like that? What's most likely gonna happen is, you'll find the top 3 guys in town.. Or the top 2... Or top 5.... And their skills will all be comparable.....


Then you'll have them do estimates... and do exactly what I said... See who really knows what they talking about, who's not a complete fukking dikk, who's trying to cheat you out your money, who's not a racist, or an elitist, or devil worshiper, or whatever else you're going to do narrow down your selection.


No you're not going to pick the neighborhood dumbass who's cool, over the 30 year vet, who's an a$$hole sometimes... But you might pick the 10 year vet who's cool, over the 10 year vet who's an a$$hole..



Now take that and keep going with it.... Every selection for a job, employee, or partner, is not going to be all on paper, cut and dry, one person is clearly better than all the rest. Especially not in a long career, spanning from 18 to 65... Probably longer.

@The Devil's Advocate you’re wasting these jewels you’re dropping. Some people aren’t going to heed your wisdom no matter what.

I’ve worked in the corporate world long enough to see that it’s not a meritocracy, not in the slightest. It’s all about who you know and who likes you. It’s as simple as.

Yea... I'm out





But one last thing..... Funny how people in here will say "Yea, black people ain't getting invited to this shyt."

But can't understand the concept of being selected last, or fired first, because you don't fit in with the rest, no matter how over qualified you are.

 

[perfectblack999]

Some of y’all have either never been in corporate or you’re just oblivious.

I work at a startup and 75% of the non work talk is about spouses or kids. If you’re not running your own business you better wake up.

 

[Sandy_Cheeks]

Interesting thread. I will add that corporate in the healthcare industry is the same. In my health system, all of the men (and some women) at the top (CEO, COO, EVPs, etc) are married with kids.

 

[JT-Money]

Some of y’all have either never been in corporate or you’re just oblivious.

I work at a startup and 75% of the non work talk is about spouses or kids. If you’re not running your own business you better wake up.

I work in IT and even before COVID a 100% of my team is remote. We've never seen each other in person. I don't even know any of my co-workers family names.

I make over 6 figures and get rave reviews for my work. My marital status had no bearing on me getting this job at all. The only thing that matters is my skill level.

I work for a global company that's in over 100 countries. Maybe in these mom and pop shops people have time to chop it up like that. And meet your wife and kids at company functions. But for these global companies with workers spread out all over the globe you'll probably never meet these people face-to-face. Much less than them knowing all your personal business.

Most of you dudes have to kiss ass to get ahead. I've worked with a ton of people like that who only got promotions because of ass kissing. Ain't nothing wrong with that but for some us it's only about whether you can do the job or not. I've never become buddy buddy with any of my superiors. And it hasn't stopped my rise up the Corporate ladder one bit. Mainly because I job hop to get the job I want so there is no reason for me to play the game in order to get promoted.

 

[Gunz&Butta]

First of all, a $400,000 home is upper middle class in my state. I know that’s not the case everywhere but even still, you’re already talking about the top 5% of Black Americans in the US. Your scenario is already not a realistic example.

Only 8% of Black women are stay at home moms with a working husband.

Furthermore, 84.4 percent of black mothers were primary, sole, or co-breadwinners in 2017. In the vast majority of Black families, the wife is making just as much or more than her husband.

To answer your question, the more realistic scenario is that the assets are divided equally between the two as the wife is most likely a co-breadwinner. Child support should be given to whichever parent has primary custody.

The vast majority of Black Americans aren’t even married so I don’t even know what’s special about announcing your GMB or repeating Cac fairytales from reddit to defend your stance. You all are doing what’s expected. Just, don’t have kids.

Where are you pulling your "realistic" scenario from? The vast majority of divorces has the man exiting the home with the wife and kids occupying the home.

How are assets equally divided when the man is sent packing while still having to make payments? The vast majority of black americans dont own two homes that can be divided equally.

It is ironic you talking about cac fairytales when women are being programmed by disney since childhood. You all get carried away with wedding fairytales, push for marriage and still be the first ones to initiate divorce.

 

[Krisrunner2049]

Lol y’all doing all this just for a career? Might as well call your boss daddy

 

[saturn7]

Marriage related: why marriage rates remain stable among the upper class (top 20% in income).