Kevin Samuels Discussion Thread

[SNG]

He’s white that’s a come up to a lot of Black women

That is true.

 

[Wiseborn]

He does need to address it to clarify. However, most women desire a man to pay for everything. It’s natural of them, no matter what she can do for herself. The particular chick that is about to get dual doctorate degrees was never going to respect dude.

As far as women getting with other average-earning and looking men, it makes sense. Why get older and purposely struggle when suitable men are readily available?

I think he feels 30k brehs shouldn’t date especially if you’re done with school but homie’s got a business to run. Can’t alienate a good chunk of his audience
It’s the same reason he didn’t blow when he was reviewing colognes

 

[Wiseborn]

Lifestyle and instant access to 401K when a nikka dies off. Old dudes are like a quick hustle for some of these chicks.

They are the clean up men/ stepdad insurance program for chicks who got bushed by the dudes that they wanted

 

[Wiseborn]

Last nights show proves his vocal male viewerbase (the ones who clogged up the phone lines last night and are spamming comments on the regular) have not made any progress since this time last year. They are just looking for another outlet where someone is going in on women to cope with being an under-performer themselves.

Mediocre guys are succeeding with women 2-3 tiers above them but have a bone to pick because they're hooked on content that gives them Red Pill Rage. I know thats not Kevins intent but thats what happens when you only exclusively point out the flaws in one gender for 12 months. I do think he can set these mens shows up so they're as successful as the womens calls, just going to take some adjustments.

It would quiet some of the female critics and make him look “balanced” to ATV audience.

Kevin is coming for Steve Harvey’s spot

 

[Apollo Creed]

He does need to address the pay for everything thing. He tells women to get with 30k men, then tells men to pay for everything. The math doesn’t work in this modern society

breh a 30k man aint HVM, a woman getting eith a non HVM should expect a partner noy provider

 

[Wiseborn]

That is true.

What does Cuzzo say about the situation or has she low key divested from the family? I’ll be when her aunt gets tipsy she lets her have it

 

[Apollo Creed]

These brehs are making us look bad. One dude showed up in a fake Burberry hat, like it’s 2002 or something...

they make themselves look bad. We gotta dead this we all brothers mentality, it doesnt work.

draw then line in the sand when it comes to men and women

 

[SNG]

What does Cuzzo say about the situation or has she low key divested from the family? I’ll be when her aunt gets tipsy she lets her have it

I’ve heared plenty of aunties behind her back call her husband a straight up bum.

 

[DrunkenNovice]

I think the caller who was dating the dual PHD got him.

Spoiler

Caller: You’re telling me I shouldn’t date because I’m not earning in the top 1%?

KS: I didn’t say that, you said you couldn’t provide for a family…

after hanging up on him

KS: I say all the time women in general, black women in particular, want a guy who can pay the majority or all of the bills.

If you can’t do that you shouldn’t be dealing with women who don’t want to pay any of the bills

He’s mostly talking about older men and women
A lot of people seem to leave that out
I know that message gets lost in the sauce but if you are in your mid to late 30s and above
You know what it is at that point and you either
p*ssy footing around
Really have no desire to get married
Still living with the demons of the past in your head
You will truly never know a woman
I don’t care how much you think you are vetting her
There are just no guarantees in life
If you meet a woman who aligns with your ideologies, shows compassion, the ability to critically think, has a motherly essence and let’s you be who you are when the lights go out/when the mask comes off
Why waste time, if you are marriage minded
I knew my current was it for me after one month
I didn’t tell her that but I knew it
Got married at month 9 and best decision of my life outside of my daughter




Lets be really real here
As a man you really shouldn’t be dating if that’s all you are making
Now here me out
I wish we lived in an idealistic world where you could meet a woman who truly wants you for you
Sees all the good in you
But women’s nature(no matter the color) wants two basic things
Security/protection
If you out here in these streets chasing tail
But you are barely getting by on your own
Something is wrong with your math
As a young man
I didn’t have my shyt together but I was getting women purely off of three things
The university I went to
Potential they saw based off my degrees
Apartment on the outer part of San Francisco proper
They “figured” I had my shyt together but I was struggling like a mofo
Working three(two regular/one on campus) jobs and barely making rent
Had women paying for me when we went out or if they came over
But that shyt got old to them and it did leave me feeling some kind of way
And my first love got tired of supporting me when I was lost outchea still trying to figure it out
I was mad about that for years but it clicked one day
I wasn’t mad at her, I was mad at me
Men have an innate feeling even if we are with a woman that has no problem with taking care of us
We want to provide for our families, friends
We want to protect them at all cost
That’s our cross to bare in this world
So if you out here dating and have no true focus/purpose
And you get somebody pregnant and you know you can’t afford to be a father
What the fukk are you doing with your life
As much as we blame women in these situations
Let’s stop the bullshyt
nikkas is out here weak and putting in the bare minimum to get by
But as soon as that responsibility comes
It’s a bunch of juelzing
If you are not in the position to take care of a mistake baby
You really shouldn’t be out in these streets
A lot of us were mistake babies(yeah I know this thecoli and your parents all conceived you out of love)
But this is a consideration men need to consider if you out here getting it in
I think KS message is women need to give men that are actually working hard
Have a decent blue collared career with no debt, owns his own shyt, has good character and shows he can steadily provide/protect a chance
Just like I would tell any man
Yeah you may want a Draya Michele(insert whoever you think is bad)
But are you ready to deal with the up keep, the headaches of nikkas always hitting on her, her checkered past
Why not get with an adjustable 6/7 that shows good moral fibers and actually likes you a chance
You can always teach somebody how to fukk
But you can’t teach somebody to listen or other innate tangibles

I agree with the premise that your money needs to be right before you think about kids / marriage.

just pointing out that he got caught up, and contradicted himself in the conversation with the guy.

 

[Apollo Creed]

The mens shows show us why tribalism is necessary. Productive men should he forming tribes with other productive men. This inclusion stuff is a farce in the context of creating productive societies because you are allowing undeserving and unproven people the ability to sit at the table and ultimately waste everyones time because they bring nothing to the table.

The fact that there is even debate on this stuff is more so just showing people who arent even cut from the cloth for this convo are allowed to add their two cents.

i dont think people really understand how critical of a time we are in. There isnt anything to debate anymore and the only people we own anything to is our future generations to give them something to work with in order to compete in this world, anyone else can go extinct.

 

[shakobe]

I think the caller who was dating the dual PHD got him.

Spoiler

Caller: You’re telling me I shouldn’t date because I’m not earning in the top 1%?

KS: I didn’t say that, you said you couldn’t provide for a family…

after hanging up on him

KS: I say all the time women in general, black women in particular, want a guy who can pay the majority or all of the bills.

If you can’t do that you shouldn’t be dealing with women who don’t want to pay any of the bills

I think he told that 28 is too young to try to date/marry

 

[Apollo Creed]

I think he told that 28 is too young to try to date/marry

only men who should be getting married in their 20s are those who found a suitable mate in college. If you didnt do that you need to focus on building so you can fail without any liabilities and take risk. Get that grind out the way then focus on finding a wife.

 

[Two Stacks]

I think he told that 28 is too young to try to date/marry

That’s exactly what he said. I think you can date between 25-30 but it’s going to have to be with a normal, average woman. I’ll be 35 in a few weeks. I didn’t start seriously dealing with women until 2015. Women can definitely distract you from meeting goals.

 

[SNG]

The mens shows show us why tribalism is necessary. Productive men should he forming tribes with other productive men. This inclusion stuff is a farce in the context of creating productive societies because you are allowing undeserving and unproven people the ability to sit at the table and ultimately waste everyones time because they bring nothing to the table.

The fact that there is even debate on this stuff is more so just showing people who arent even cut from the cloth for this convo are allowed to add their two cents.

i dont think people really understand how critical of a time we are in. There isnt anything to debate anymore and the only people we own anything to is our future generations to give them something to work with in order to compete in this world, anyone else can go extinct.

That's why I always say to break bread with people that are on the same page as you. In the black community there will always be lost causes but doesn't mean you can't set up the next generation better. I don't think millennial men 83 - 91 men understand the advantage that group has. We know what life was like before the internet and we are raised on the internet. We are going to have be great leaders for the generations under us especially to help them navigate this shyt show social media world alot of them are consumed by.

 

[Apollo Creed]

That’s exactly what he said. I think you can date between 25-30 but it’s going to have to be with a normal, average woman. I’ll be 35 in a few weeks. I didn’t start seriously dealing with women until 2015. Women can definitely distract you from meeting goals.

exactly. A man working on himself is only going to he distracted. The exception to the rule like i mentioned before is if you found your wife in college BUT have a defined vision that both of you work towards thus any sacrifices made both understand align to the larger goal.