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Many people would consider TAKE CARE a classic.

Drake and Kendrick rap about different things for different audiences. Drake is mainstream and Kendrick caters to niche audiences who like being depressed and listening to poorly produced albums. I don't see the point in comparing them. Apple and oranges.
The only reason people compare them is cause of kendrick's alleged success vs drake's blatant success. Then nikkas get mad when i break down success and
point out blatant facts
 

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Quality is quality. And no matter how much I person like TC, it isn't a classic album. Very good, not classic.
And man, people must really love poorly produced, depressive albums then. GKMC is widely considered the 2nd best rap album of the decade. TC ain't on anyone's list. I still love that project tho.

By whom? Let me guess? Condescending and disingenuous CAC publications? :russ: Kendrick gets by on content matter. That's it. His artistry is lacking like a MFer.
 
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Many people would consider TAKE CARE a classic.

Drake and Kendrick rap about different things for different audiences. Drake is mainstream and Kendrick caters to niche audiences who like being depressed and listening to poorly produced albums. I don't see the point in comparing them. Apple and oranges.
How is Kendrick Lamar music depression...????:what:

Stop posting. You only show that you're obsessed with Kendrick even by your title.:mjlol:

I guess there is also Kendrick hater plants too...:troll:
 

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In what world?

Conceptually, Lyrically, Replay Value Wise, and just about everything else, GKMC blows TC out the water, not even close.
Lyrically drake can match kendrick. Replay value is strongly in drake's favor. Flow wise drake will destroy him. Hooks,drake will destroy him
I only give props on concepts if the artists makes me feel where they coming from. If they come off corny then i could care less what their intent was.
 

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By whom? Let me guess? Condescending and disingenuous CAC publications? :russ: Kendrick gets by on content matter. That's it. His artistry is lacking like a MFer.
exactly. nikkas out here erroneously believing kendrick's corny interpretation of the hood is some type of influential perspective.
Note to you cornballs,kendrick's voice and viewpoint is nothing like vintage 2pac,ice cube,scarface or nas.
 

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Take care ain't no folic king classic. Get all the way the fukk out of here lil nikka.

Drake's songs will be remembered more and so will the album
Kendrick Lamar -Good Kid: M.A.A.D City (Oct. '12) BUY NOW!
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Track Lyrics
1 Sherane a.k.a Master Splinter's Daughter
2 bytch, Don't Kill My Vibe
3 Backseat Freestyle
4 The Art of Peer Pressure
5 Money Trees
6 Poetic Justice
7 good kid
8 m.A.A.d city
9 Swimming Pools (Drank)
10 Sing About Me/I'm Dying of Thirst
11 Real
12 Compton
B1 The Recipe
B2 Black Boy Fly
B3 Now or Never
*B Country Building Blues

Drake - Take Care (2011) BUY NOW!
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Track Lyrics
1 Over My Dead Body
2 Shot For Me
3 Headlines
4 Crew Love
5 Take Care
6 Marvin's Room
7 Buried Alive Interlude
8 Under Ground Kings
9 We'll Be Fine
10 Make Me Proud
11 Lord Knows
12 Cameras/Good Ones Go Interlude
13 Doing it Wrong
14 The Real Her
15 Look What You've Done
16 HYFR (Hell Ya fukking Right)
17 Practice
18 The Ride
19 * The Motto
20 * Hate Sleeping Alone
 

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In what world?

Conceptually, Lyrically, Replay Value Wise, and just about everything else, GKMC blows TC out the water, not even close.
Good Kid, M.a.a.d. City blows Take Care out of the water in terms of replay value? :mjlol:

:comeon:

I'll give you Kendrick's album being more lyrically and thematically deep but if anything Drake's album blows Kendrick's out of the water in terms of replay value.
 

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http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/kendrick-lamars-new-album-everything-we-know-20150311

Kendrick Lamar's New Album: Everything We Know

"In 2012, Kendrick Lamar's Grammy-nominated, radio-dominating major label debut, good kid, m.A.A.d city, was immediately measured by the same yardstick as earth-shattering albums like Nas' Illmatic and Kanye West's The College Dropout. And like those MCs before him, anticipation for Lamar's follow-up was — and remains — sky high.

However, besides a Grammy-winning standalone single, a bevy of feature performances, a missed September 2014 release date and new single, "The Blacker the Berry," there hasn't been a whole lot of concrete information out there regarding Lamar's March 23rd-bound return. Gathering the loose pieces from radio interviews, magazine features and our recent cover story, this is everything we can say about the record.

It is No Longer Untitled

In a new interview with Rolling Stone, Lamar tells contributing editor Josh Eels that his third album will not be untitled or named Untitled. Instead, it's called To Pimp a Butterfly, a play on Harper Lee's To Kill a Mockingbird. "Just putting the word 'pimp' next to 'butterfly'… It's a trip," Lamar says. "That's something that will be a phrase forever. It'll be taught in college courses — I truly believe that."

Lamar would later take to Instagram to reveal To Pimp a Butterfly's artwork and share the quote that spawned the album title: "Don't all dogs go to heaven? Don't Gangsta's boogie? Do owl shyt stank? Lions, Tigers & Bears. But TO PIMP A BUTTERFLY. Its the American dream nikka...."

Digi+Phonics is Definitely Involved, Dr. Dre is Possibly Involved

In our cover story, Lamar revealed that free jazz, 1970s funk, Miles Davis and Parliament were the main inspirations behind To Pimp a Butterfly's beats. "Every producer I've ever met was sending me stuff — but there was a one-in-a-million chance you could send us a beat that actually fit what we were doing," Digi+Phonics producer Mark "Sounwave" Spears told Rolling Stone.

In November, he told Hot 97, "Everything’s really in-house. Of course Dre, but I really stick with four producers that I’ve been working with since day one." It's safe to assume Lamar meant the Digi+Phonics crew — Sounwave, Tae Beast, Dave Free and Willie B.

In late 2013, a year after the release of good kid, m.A.A.d city, the first evidence that Lamar was working on new music at all came via a Beats by Dre commercial, with the rapper and Dr. Dre collaborating on a track later dubbed "It's Alive." However, a full version of the song was never released. In a September 2014 interview with Rolling Stone, Lamar confirmed that he linked up Dre for some beats. "[Dre]'s just gone into the lab and made beats," he said. "He's trying to find that next thing — just really elevating himself and the team to grow as a creator." But what parts of Dre's input made the final cut is still unknown.

Lamar also admitted that he hit the studio with Pharrell Williams, but it's unclear whether those sessions were for the rapper's new album or if they ultimately resulted in Lamar's "It's On Again" collaboration with Alicia Keys that wound up on the Pharrell-produced The Amazing Spider-Man 2 soundtrack.

There Will Be Guests...But Possibly Not Any Guest Rappers

In a Rolling Stone interview in September, Kendrick revealed that he had not yet approached any other MCs to provide features on his next LP. His last album, by contrast, featured cameos by Drake, Jay Rock, Dr. Dre and MC Eiht. "I have so much to say. It's almost selfish of me," Lamar said.

However, that doesn't mean that there won't be guests. "The Blacker the Berry" sports a cameo by dancehall star Assassin, who previously assisted on Kanye West's "I'm In It." And, in a Billboard interview, producer Terrace Martin added jazz pianist Robert Glasper, singer Lalah Hathaway and Anna Wise (who previously appeared on good kid's "Real") to the list of Lamar's new album collaborators.

It Will Be Politically Charged

Like D'Angelo's Black Messiah, To Pimp a Butterfly is informed by the recent tragic killings of Trayvon Martin, Michael Brown and Eric Garner. "To me, the album is perfect for right now. If the world was happy, maybe we'd give you a happy album. But right now, we are not happy," Digi+Phonics producer Mark "Sounwave" Spears tells Rolling Stone .

As producer Terrace Martin tells Billboard of the recent single "The Blacker the Berry," "What [Lamar] is talking about is a perfect time for what's going on in life. It's a soulful record, it's a record that needed to be done, and it's like the modern times of Public Enemy. It's a black record. It's a record about being black and being proud at the end of the day."

Martin is strictly instructed by the rapper not to indulge any specific details about the upcoming LP, but the producer does offer up, "I know [Lamar's album] is going to touch somebody. I wanna say, 'It's gon' be big and the world gon' change over night and Obama gon' chill with us and the police gon' stop killing brothers and blacks can walk around safe,' but I can't say that."

Potential Inclusion: Untitled Track From 'The Colbert Report'

"You are the last Colbert Report musical guest. Honored to have you on, but keep in mind: Paul McCartney, R.E.M., Jack White and Nas were your opening acts," Stephen Colbert told Lamar on December 16th. To mark the occasion, Lamar unleashed a jazzy, experimental "untitled" track that featured a Terrace Martin saxophone solo and some of Lamar's most contentious lyricism to date. Producer Astronote later took credit for the track, which also boasts contributions from Bilal and Thundercat.

Potential Inclusion: "I'm Da Man"

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Weeks after Lamar released the standalone, non-album single "i," Lamar's Top Dawg associate Ab-Soul leaked a 53-second snippet of a gritty new Lamar song called "I'm Da Man" on his SoundCloud. Ab-Soul doesn't elaborate on the track's provenance and Lamar hasn't commented on the track.

Definite Inclusion: "The Blacker the Berry"

On February 10th, without warning, Lamar dropped his newest and most confrontational song to date, "The Blacker the Berry." The track, named after Wallace Thurman's book of the same title, finds Lamar tackling institutional violence, hypocrisy and the termination of his culture.

"I'm the biggest hypocrite of 2015/Once I finish this, witnesses will convey just what I mean," Lamar raps at the onset of every verse. "The plot is bigger than me/It's generational hatred/It's genocism, it's grimy, little justification/I'm African-American, I'm African/Black as the heart of a fukkin' Aryan/I'm black as the name Tyrone and Darius."

The track features engulfing, layered production by Boi-1da — adding the frequent Drake collaborator to Lamar's new album mix — as well as Terrace Martin and Boi-1da protégé KOZ.

Definite Inclusion: "King Kunta"

While the album was still unfinished at the time of our cover-story interview — Lamar had to finish it within the next five days — the rapper did share some new tracks. One of them, "King Kunta" is a funky stomper where Lamar assumes the role of the titular slave in Roots. Scott Vener, the music supervisor for Entourage heard it back in October and Tweeted: "After @Pharrell heard it. The first thing he said 'that song is so unapologetically black and AMAZING...those chord changes though. I can't wait for @QTipTheAbstract to hear this.""
 
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